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* '''''Gym Leaders may have an article about their signature Pokémon, but only if it did more than just battle in the episode(s) it appeared in and had some impact on the plot. Examples would be Blaine's Magmar, which saved the Cinnabar Gym and developed Charizard's personality, or Clair's Dragonair, which helped save the Dragon Kingdom. Elite Four members, Champions, and Frontier Brains also fall into this category.'''''  Leon's battle against Ash, served to show the concepts of Gigantamax to Ash. Leon's battle against Raihan served to work out the history of the rivalry between the two Trainers. '''CHECK'''
 
* '''''Gym Leaders may have an article about their signature Pokémon, but only if it did more than just battle in the episode(s) it appeared in and had some impact on the plot. Examples would be Blaine's Magmar, which saved the Cinnabar Gym and developed Charizard's personality, or Clair's Dragonair, which helped save the Dragon Kingdom. Elite Four members, Champions, and Frontier Brains also fall into this category.'''''  Leon's battle against Ash, served to show the concepts of Gigantamax to Ash. Leon's battle against Raihan served to work out the history of the rivalry between the two Trainers. '''CHECK'''
 
We can spend months discussing this, but the truth is that this is just looking like a matter of conflicting points of view. To me, this seems very much to fall into the problem that the pages are based on most of Ash's relationship with other characters and not his own stories. Even though Ash is the protagonist, it's been a long time since the anime revolves around him and the rules didn't adapt to that(Goh is probably the biggest proof of that). Hence we have to expect that a Pokémon like Charizard has to have some impact on the plot of a technically unrelated character like Ash. Well, I think I elongated too much in the text I put here. I hope it resolves the discussion somehow.-- [[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 
We can spend months discussing this, but the truth is that this is just looking like a matter of conflicting points of view. To me, this seems very much to fall into the problem that the pages are based on most of Ash's relationship with other characters and not his own stories. Even though Ash is the protagonist, it's been a long time since the anime revolves around him and the rules didn't adapt to that(Goh is probably the biggest proof of that). Hence we have to expect that a Pokémon like Charizard has to have some impact on the plot of a technically unrelated character like Ash. Well, I think I elongated too much in the text I put here. I hope it resolves the discussion somehow.-- [[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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:I want to swing back to this and point out that if [[Miette's Slurpuff]] is good enough for to be mainspaced than so should the other two, or are we really saying participating in a dance party is more relevant than anything else? [[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 10:17, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
    
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