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:It's jsut a fansite...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000033">A</span><span style="color:#003366">g</span><span style="color:#215670">e</span><span style="color:#006699">n</span><span style="color:#2D6E89">t</span>]] [[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#0066CC">#</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#3D81EE">4</span>]][[Lucario (anime)|<span style="color:#66B5FF">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#99C9FF">8</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Manual of style|<span style=" color:#C3D9FF;">♂</span>]]''' <sup>[[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color:#B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#66FF00;">E</span>]] | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup>[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]]  08:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:It's jsut a fansite...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000033">A</span><span style="color:#003366">g</span><span style="color:#215670">e</span><span style="color:#006699">n</span><span style="color:#2D6E89">t</span>]] [[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#0066CC">#</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#3D81EE">4</span>]][[Lucario (anime)|<span style="color:#66B5FF">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#99C9FF">8</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Manual of style|<span style=" color:#C3D9FF;">♂</span>]]''' <sup>[[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color:#B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#66FF00;">E</span>]] | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup>[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]]  08:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::Buneary's a girl! Therefore, Pikachu's a guy. And... well, the PUSA dub certainly would follow the ''official'' story more closely, I'd imagine, being that it's being run by Pokémon USA. Not to bash 4Kids at all, but PUSA knows what they're doing with their own franchise. No Seviper errors here. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 20:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::Buneary's a girl! Therefore, Pikachu's a guy. And... well, the PUSA dub certainly would follow the ''official'' story more closely, I'd imagine, being that it's being run by Pokémon USA. Not to bash 4Kids at all, but PUSA knows what they're doing with their own franchise. No Seviper errors here. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Evidence, however logical, is not proof. While I do see the case for "Pikachu is male", frankly I'd personally rather wait for Word Of God or a direct mention in the jp anime before saying it's proven. The absence of official word makes me think the Japanese writers etc might be up to something. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 22:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Evidence, however logical, is not proof. While I do see the case for "Pikachu is male", frankly I'd personally rather wait for Word Of God or a direct mention in the jp anime before saying it's proven. The absence of official word makes me think the Japanese writers etc might be up to something. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 22:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree. Though I do think that Pikachu is in fact male, there is NO PROOF to back it up. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 23:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree. Though I do think that Pikachu is in fact male, there is NO PROOF to back it up. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 23:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Which is exactly why I, begrudgingly, leave it as "Unknown"... though the "first nine seasons" debate is pretty much the [[:Image:Spr 3r 025.png|worst ever...]] {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 09:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Which is exactly why I, begrudgingly, leave it as "Unknown"... though the "first nine seasons" debate is pretty much the [[:Image:Spr 3r 025.png|worst ever...]] <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 09:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::No Seviper errors?  The "Arbok" of ''Mystery Dungeon'' says hi.
::::::No Seviper errors?  The "Arbok" of ''Mystery Dungeon'' says hi.
::::::And the split tail argument is weakest of all given that the writers have purposefully avoided the issue so far.
::::::And the split tail argument is weakest of all given that the writers have purposefully avoided the issue so far.
::::::Yes, Buneary is probably a girl since it wore a dress and Pikachu is probably a boy anyway.  But your logic is weak. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 10:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yes, Buneary is probably a girl since it wore a dress and Pikachu is probably a boy anyway.  But your logic is weak. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 10:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I was watching the Japanese version of '''{{tt|Computer|Electric?}} Soldier Porygon''' and towards the end when Ash goes to hand Pikachu in, Nurse Joy refers to Pikachu as a boy. She says, and I quote the English translation, "''We'll look after him''". It may not be efficient evidence, but I think it does have some value. <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 21:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I was watching the Japanese version of '''{{tt|Computer|Electric?}} Soldier Porygon''' and towards the end when Ash goes to hand Pikachu in, Nurse Joy refers to Pikachu as a boy. She says, and I quote the English translation, "''We'll look after him''". It may not be efficient evidence, but I think it does have some value. <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 21:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:No, that's good evidence!{{:User:Theryguy512/Sig}} 00:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:No, that's good evidence!--'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 00:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


SIT, Pikachu is probly maile but we need more info first. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
SIT, Pikachu is probly maile but we need more info first. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
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I'd really like to watch this episode myself but its downloading REALLY slowly at the moment. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]] 09:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd really like to watch this episode myself but its downloading REALLY slowly at the moment. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]] 09:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Sure, it might've been "It's you!" or something, but we had Ash "Kengo!", Brock "Kengo!" and then Pikachu "Pi-ka!" so it seems as if that's what Pikachu's calling him. Besides, if "PiPikachu!" can mean "Rocketto-dan!" and "We did it!" at the same time... {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 10:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Sure, it might've been "It's you!" or something, but we had Ash "Kengo!", Brock "Kengo!" and then Pikachu "Pi-ka!" so it seems as if that's what Pikachu's calling him. Besides, if "PiPikachu!" can mean "Rocketto-dan!" and "We did it!" at the same time... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 10:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


Pi-ka is said all the time. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
Pi-ka is said all the time. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:No, but ''everyone'' said "KENGO!", which Pikachu followed up with "PI-KA!". Pikachu says "PiPikachu!" when Ash gets a badge, too, but Team Rocket's nowhere to be seen. That's the beauty of speech with three syllables. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 20:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:No, but ''everyone'' said "KENGO!", which Pikachu followed up with "PI-KA!". Pikachu says "PiPikachu!" when Ash gets a badge, too, but Team Rocket's nowhere to be seen. That's the beauty of speech with three syllables. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


Mabie it was "That guy" [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
Mabie it was "That guy" [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:Well, what's "that guy" in Japanese? If it's two syllables, sure... {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 05:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well, what's "that guy" in Japanese? If it's two syllables, sure... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 05:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


== Trivia ==
== Trivia ==


Just wanted to know if this is trivia worthy. OK here it goes...Ash's Pikachu has battled all the members of the Electabuzz evolutionary family at one time or the other but has not won even once. (Pikachu battled Rudy's Electabuzz, Gary's Electivire and Paul's Elekid) [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to know if this is trivia worthy. OK here it goes...Ash's Pikachu has battled all the members of the Electabuzz evolutionary family at one time or the other but has not won even once. (Pikachu battled Rudy's Electabuzz, Gary's Electivire and Paul's Elekid) [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:I deem that good trivia! {{:User:Theryguy512/Sig}} 23:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:I deem that good trivia! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 23:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Seconded. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 14:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Seconded. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 14:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


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Can you really prove that Pikachu means quick attack when he says the first part of hid name! USeless trivia!--{{Ani|336}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]]{{Ani|157}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]]{{Ani|168}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]]{{Ani|141}} 03:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Can you really prove that Pikachu means quick attack when he says the first part of hid name! USeless trivia!--{{Ani|336}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]]{{Ani|157}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]]{{Ani|168}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]]{{Ani|141}} 03:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:If it's said consistently when using the move... {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 23:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:If it's said consistently when using the move... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 23:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:::But that doesn't really prove anything. My darkrai makes the same noise when I use attacks with it{{User:Darth Cookie Monster/Sig}}
:::But that doesn't really prove anything. My darkrai makes the same noise when I use attacks with it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''C  '''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Is'''</span>]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|<span style="color:#000000;">'''for Cookie'''</span>]]
::::Games do not equal anime. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 01:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Games do not equal anime. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 01:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's the sound of the ''move'', not the Pokémon. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 02:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's the sound of the ''move'', not the Pokémon. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Oh vell, in my opinion it is junk{{User:Darth Cookie Monster/Sig}}
:::::Oh vell, in my opinion it is junk[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''C  '''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Is'''</span>]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|<span style="color:#000000;">'''for Cookie'''</span>]]
::::::Not exactly, it could possibly reveal the secret of deciphering the Pokémon language<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 02:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Not exactly, it could possibly reveal the secret of deciphering the Pokémon language<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 02:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Think of it this way: Dark Pulse makes the same noise if it's used by Ninetales or by Darkrai. The moves are sound effects-based, there's only like three moves that are based on the cries of the Pokémon, which are far, far, far from the quality of the anime's VAs. Even for Gen IV.
:::::::Think of it this way: Dark Pulse makes the same noise if it's used by Ninetales or by Darkrai. The moves are sound effects-based, there's only like three moves that are based on the cries of the Pokémon, which are far, far, far from the quality of the anime's VAs. Even for Gen IV.
:::::::Pikachu in the games does not make the Thunderbolt noise. It makes Growl, which is basically a warped version of its cry. In the anime, Pikachu speaks in the three syllables of it name. This has meaning, which Ikue Ohtani gives to it. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 02:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Pikachu in the games does not make the Thunderbolt noise. It makes Growl, which is basically a warped version of its cry. In the anime, Pikachu speaks in the three syllables of it name. This has meaning, which Ikue Ohtani gives to it. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


== Double-Edge (Take 3) ==
== Double-Edge (Take 3) ==
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