Bulbapedia talk:Manual of style: Difference between revisions

no edit summary
m (Pokemaster97 moved page Talk:Manual of style to Bulbapedia talk:Manual of style without leaving a redirect: oof)
No edit summary
Line 1: Line 1:
== Evolution Chain Standardisation ==
The references to how a Pokémon evolves and into what creature is unstandardised across every species article. I propose that we create a section for each species page with the evolutionary chains of that particular species. Such standardisation would make navigation simple, as well as a give a way to describe exactly how the Pokémon evolves in each case.
: The style used at the {{p|Beldum}} article series is the standard. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 21:02, 25 December 2005 (CST)
::And for forked evolutions (such as {{p|Poliwhirl}}) see the {{p|Clamperl}} family.[[User:User142|User142]] 00:11, 26 December 2005 (CST)
:::That's only for the two-way forks with two or three-stage chains. For Eevee, use vertical layout - Eevee on one row, the rest on the next row.
== Real people Japanese names==
What is the policy regarding names of Japanese real people?
There doesn't appear to be one, so I will show a proposal.
As we all know, in Japan the last name goes before the given name, BUT in the U.S. the names are usually switched.
So to reflect both naming orders, I would like to use this convention:
"Junichiro Koizumi (Japanese: 小泉純一郎, Koizumi Jun'ichirō, born January 8, 1942)"
Now, with historical figures, there is usually no need to repeat the Japanese order unless macrons are involved:
"Tokugawa Ieyasu (previously spelled Iyeyasu); 徳川 家康"
Also I would like to have a page on here that explains Japanese naming conventions.
[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 12:35, 7 January 2006 (CST)
----
Perhaps [[Misty's Togetic|Misty's Togepi]] and [[Jessie's Wobbuffet]] should be at the top of each episode's Pokémon list along with [[Ash's Pikachu]] and [[Meowth (Team Rocket)]], as they (have) appeared in every episode their trainers made an appearance in since their capture (with the exception of Togepi, which evolved and left). --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 00:27, 18 September 2005 (CDT)
:It's hard to say yes or no to these cases. Pokeani gives those two their own articles. The same argument could potentially apply to [[James's Chimecho]]. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 03:13, 18 September 2005 (CDT)
:I'd argue that they do deserve to be named simply on the basis that they are featured, and they all do play a significant role in the anime in general. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 08:03, 18 September 2005 (CDT)
----------------
For things both in the games and in the anime, do we want something like what I've done for [[Bill|Bill's page]] to be the standard?  If so, should we incorporate that setup into the Manual of style?
~Evan
== Individual Pokémon vs. Pokémon species? ==
That seems to be the best, if not most thorough, format.
I have another issue to bring up, though. Do you think it's important to define the difference between individual Pokémon and Pokémon species in the Manual of Style? For instance, EVs, IVs, and so on are characteristics of individual Pokémon, while base stats, types, and so on are characteristics of Pokémon species. If so, perhaps an article called "Pokémon specie" might be created, and links in articles referring to Pokémon species, not individual Pokémon, might lead to it. It could look like this:
---------------
A Pokémon specie is a "kind" of [[Pokémon]], such as {{p|Bulbasaur}} or {{p|Zubat}}. Pokémon of certain species can change into some other species by [[evolution|evolving]], such as a Bulbasaur evolving into an {{p|Ivysaur}}.
Oftentimes, a specie's name can refer to an individual Pokémon of that species instead. For instance, "Bulbasaur is a Grass-type" refers to the Bulbasaur specie, but "Bulbasaur uses Vine Whip" refers to a single Bulbasaur. In the [[National Dex|National ID]] system, they are numbered from 1 to 151.
Initially when the [[Pokémon Red|Red]], [[Pokémon Green|Green]] (in Japan only), [[Pokémon Blue|Blue]], and [[Pokémon Yellow|Yellow]] versions were released, there were 151 Pokémon species.
When the [[Pokémon Gold|Gold]], [[Pokémon Silver|Silver]], and [[Pokémon Crystal|Crystal]] versions were released, 100 more species were added, making a total of 251.
When the [[Advanced Generation]] games were released, 135 more species were added, making a total of 386.
Currently, two species from the fourth generation have been officially revealed to the public, {{p|Munchlax}} and {{p|Lucario}} (Japanese name).
-----------------
It might also be useful to disambiguate this in the [[Pokémon]] article, talking about how the term "Pokémon" might refer to Pokémon species (Charmander is a Fire-type Pokémon), individual Pokémon (Pokémon which receive 4 Attack EVs have their Attack stat increase by 1), or the franchise (Pokémon was first conceptualized by Satoshi Tajiri).
---------------
== Pokémon anime characters articles standarization ==
We've got two styles for articles in [[:Category:Anime characters (Pokémon)]] to refer back to the main article of the Pokémon in general.  One's found on [[Ash's Pikachu]], [[Meowth (Team Rocket)]], and [[Jigglypuff (anime)]], where it has on the top an "Unnamedpokemon" template pointing the main Pokémon's article to people right off the bat.  The other's on pages like [[Brock's Bonsly]], [[Ash's Butterfree]], and [[Mewtwo (anime)]], where it mentions the main Pokémon's article down at the bottom in the "Related articles" section.
They both have their advantages - I mean, the first one makes it very easy for someone to find the article on the Pokémon's species since it's right there at the top rather than way down at the bottom, while on the other hand the second is better adapted to Pokémon which have evolved, as on the article for Ash's Butterfree.
It's bothering me that both styles exist - can we standardize them?  Which style is better?  Should we make alternate Unnamedpokemon templates for Pokémon with multiple stages, and switch all the Pokémon anime characters articles to it?  Or should we ditch the Unnamedpokemon template completely, and change all the articles which use it to having the "Related articles" reference?  Or should we go for some third style that trumps the other two completely?
Personally, I'm more in favor of the Unnamedpokemon template - it looks better to me, and the only problem with it could be fixed pretty easily, I think.  --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
The style used in Unnamedpokemon is more suitable when a user may have arrived at that article by mistake (via redirect, for example, or by lack of a disambiguation page). Such a thing should be present, for example, on [[Battle Frontier]] and not [[Battle Frontier (song)]]. But that doesn't seem likely here, not since we abandoned the idea of redirecting [[Pikachu]] to [[Ash's Pikachu]]. The related articles style seems better. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 02:18, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:Ah, all right, then.  ^^o --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 05:12, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
== British vs. American spelling? ==
I don't know where to ask this, so I'll just ask it here.
Which English spelling does Bulbapedia prefer? I have found some pages that use British spelling (ex: colour, defence), while others use American spelling (ex: color, defense). I'm American, so I'm more accustomed to the the latter.
Does it matter at all, or should they just be left as is? -[[User:Ringtails|Ringtails]] 04:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say leave the British/American spelling as-is, as in, don't edit an article just to change the spelling to the other one. Remember, though, both are correct, so we should have a redirect from [[Alternate colour]] if we don't already... --'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 04:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:Standardise article titles on American spelling, and have consistency within an article. As he says though, don't edit an article just to change the spelling from one to another. (It can lead to revert wars.) - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 07:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
::In the cases where something is spelt the same in American and British versions (which I think is all cases where something is written down) then we should use that spelling. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 18:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Last time I checked the games and the anime are translated in the United States. So I personally think American English should be used. True that most English-speaking countries use British English officially (I know that not all countries besides US do that) but most English-language countries use the American translation of the anime, and as far as I know, the games are officially translated in the United States. Correct me if I'm wrong, but since [[Pokémon Center]] isn't very often referred to as [[Pokémon centre]] I have a feeling most English-speaking countries use the American translations. I also think so because the games/anime use feet/miles. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 13:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::If you're talking about the colour of a Zigzagoon for example I don't think it really matters where the game is made. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 14:05, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Do you guys in the rest of the world have the American English versions of the game? I'd imagine it to be completely ridiculous to go through the entire game script changing every appearance of "color" to "colour" and stuff... Is it Special Defence over there? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:18, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::Agreed it is ridiculous, which is also why I think the American spelling is used when released elsewhere. As far as I know it's officially translated into English in the United States. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 18:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Correct, we do use American spelling. Not that there are all that many words that you can see the difference. [[User:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Glinn</span>]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Mgraw</span>]] 02:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::{{a|Color Change}}, {{a|Color Change|Colour Change}}. id think Defense/Defence would be the biggest. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 02:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
This is quite a problem, I've noticed - I've had to created redirects for articles like [[Flavour]]. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 03:44, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
== Pokedex style ==
Was goin through pokedex info and revising today when I realized, The European version probably differs from the American version.  Not only that, but the Height, Weight and Species information have had some inconsistencies with the game I am going by. (Pokemon Pearl, Us Version).  Who's to say which is the correct version?  I suggest two pokedex catagories, US and UK. What is your view on this? --[[User:Dekubobo|Dekubobo]] 14:43, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:I don't understand.  Why would there be a difference?  And D/P won't be released in Europe for another two months so how can it affect things now? 
:On a more helpful note, I am planning to get a European copy so I'll be able to help compare the versions at the time. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 18:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
::Believe me, we've missed a lot when it comes to updating each Pokémon's page-- and with 493, who wouldn't? I still find Pokémon with their Sinnoh Dex number listed as "?", so I'd not doubt that some of the DP dex entries are translated from the Japanese versions, and the same for the species.
::I don't see why, either, there'd be a difference in the dex entries between Europe and the US, unless it's the German translation or something. The UK version, I'm betting, will be exactly the same as the US version, though maybe instead it'll use meters and kilograms instead of feet/inches and pounds. Don't see much else to change, though... Not with any reason, at least. English is English. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 19:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
== Gyms and Badges ==
I just wondered how we should go about these, once and for all:
* [[Gym]] or gym? Pokémon Gym or Pokémon gym? (consider Official Pokémon League-sanctioned Gym)
* [[Badge]] or badge? Gym Badge or Gym badge? Boulderbadge, Boulder Badge or Boulder badge? It seems to vary by generation, but it's strange to see Boulderbadge and then Coal Badge on the same page.
Badges are technically items (see Escape Rope) but what about individually? --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 18:46, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:Well, in RBYGSCRSEFRLG, they were typed as BOULDERBADGE, CASCADEBADGE, and so on. After all, you know how previously we had the move {{m|AncientPower}} as Ancientpower, because it was written in all caps so we didn't know the intended spelling... I'd say we oughta go with what DP says, including the instruction book.
:And it says... unless it's a specific badge, it's not capitalized. There are eight Pokémon League Badges: the Coal Badge, the Forest Badge, and so on. If you have a badge it proves you've defeated a Gym Leader. Pokémon Gym seems to be a different case. It's Leader or Gym Leader, Gym or Pokémon Gym.
:We might have to wait for a GS remake to be for sure about the old badges taking on the same style as the Sinnoh ones... but eh, it's a wiki, everything can be undone if that's the case. I'd personally say keep the separate, both capitalized rule for badge names, and do them ALL that way, since it's not only consistent, but very likely that that's what was meant originally.
:So. Recap: Gym over gym, Pokémon Gym over Pokémon gym, badge over Badge, unless it's a specific badge like the Boulder Badge, Zephyr Badge, Stone Badge, or Coal Badge, or named as an official Pokémon League Badge. That's my take on things, at least, I say it all depends if Pie and Argy agree, they're the Style Editors. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 20:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::Also: to add something, [http://fromearth.net/LetsPlay/Pokemon%20Emerald/Update%209/roxxanne84um.png this proves] that the badges are at the very least named as XXXXX Badge in Hoenn. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 01:17, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
== New Move Template ==
[[User:Royalshow ten]] posted a [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pound_%28move%29&oldid=173693#By_leveling_up new template for showing moves] at the [[Pound (move)|Pound]] article, as well as other move articles. Though they were reverted by a moderator, I personally think that these tables look better and are easier to navigate than the current large boxes that are there. Thoughts? [[User:Morgan695|Morgan695]] 05:01, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
==Color==
I could never figure out how the colors come out. like '''acd''' or '''FFFFFF'''. How do we know what the color is?[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#EEC226;">'''Poke'''</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#F05030;">'''maniac'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#5C8CFA;">'''102'''</span>]] 22:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:The number is divided into three groups of two digits: the first represents red, the second green, the third blue. It functions on the principle of [[wikipedia:additive color|additive color]]. Furthermore, the numbers are in [[wikipedia:hexadecimal|hexadecimal]]; the maximum value of each of the three primary colours, FF, equals to 255 in decimal (our number system).
:Three digits is shorthand when the digits repeat themselves: if you have #FFCC99, you can write #FC9 instead. [[User:Laogeodritt|Laogeodritt]] 23:09, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::Well, I know you can find color-codes on Wikipedia pages like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown Brown] <span style="background:#5CDDFF">[[User:Theryguy512|<span style= color:#FF0000>M</span><span style= color:#177245>E</span><span style= color:#FF0000>R</span><span style= color:#177245>R</span><span style= color:#FF0000>Y</span>]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style= color:#177245>C</span><span style= color:#FF0000>H</span><span style= color:#177245>R</span><span style= color:#FF0000>I</span><span style= color:#177245>S</span><span style= color:#FF0000>T</span><span style= color:#177245>M</span><span style= color:#FF0000>A</span><span style= color:#177245>S</span>]]</span> 23:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Or you could just nab a color on Photoshop or some program that lets you see the color hex code, and copy it down. :p [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 23:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::OR YOU COULD GUESS. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc><sup><span style=" color:navy">[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</span></sup>Hi''' 10:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
== Parenthesis mis-match ==
Since the page seems to be protected, I'd like to note a parenthesis mis-match in section '''Article titles''', second paragraph.
:''In cases where only a first name ([[Bill]]) exists, or where a character is known by a title, such as [[Professor Oak]]) more than their proper name, those should be used as the sole title of the page.''
should be
:''In cases where only a first name ([[Bill]]) exists, or where a character is known by a title (such as [[Professor Oak]]) more than their proper name, those should be used as the sole title of the page.''
'''[[User:Laogeodritt|Laogeodritt]]''' <sup><small><nowiki>[ </nowiki>Talk [[User Talk:Laogeodritt|BP]] [[a:User Talk:Laogeodritt|ARC]] [[wp:User talk:Laogeodritt|WP]] |  [[Special:Contributions/Laogeodritt|Contribs]]<nowiki> ]</nowiki></small></sup> 23:19, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's already been fixed <span style="background:#5CDDFF">[[User:Theryguy512|<span style= color:#FF0000>M</span><span style= color:#177245>E</span><span style= color:#FF0000>R</span><span style= color:#177245>R</span><span style= color:#FF0000>Y</span>]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style= color:#177245>C</span><span style= color:#FF0000>H</span><span style= color:#177245>R</span><span style= color:#FF0000>I</span><span style= color:#177245>S</span><span style= color:#FF0000>T</span><span style= color:#177245>M</span><span style= color:#FF0000>A</span><span style= color:#177245>S</span>]]</span> 23:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:...right before you said that. :p [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 23:34, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::Not exactly. check the Recent Changes page. this topic came first chronologically.[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#EEC226;">'''Poke'''</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#F05030;">'''maniac'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#5C8CFA;">'''102'''</span>]] 23:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::No, no, I was talking about Theryguy. He said it was fixed, however he said that right after it was. :p Even though the ''topic'' came first, it was corrected. :p [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 00:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, I told TTEchidna on AIM and then said it was fixed. Why does it matter? <span style="background:#5CDDFF">[[User:Theryguy512|<span style= color:#FF0000>M</span><span style= color:#177245>E</span><span style= color:#FF0000>R</span><span style= color:#177245>R</span><span style= color:#FF0000>Y</span>]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style= color:#177245>C</span><span style= color:#FF0000>H</span><span style= color:#177245>R</span><span style= color:#FF0000>I</span><span style= color:#177245>S</span><span style= color:#FF0000>T</span><span style= color:#177245>M</span><span style= color:#FF0000>A</span><span style= color:#177245>S</span>]]</span> 00:41, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:*shrugs* Whatever. :p [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 00:47, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
== [[Ash's Gligar]] ==
Can someone please add Ash's Gligar to the list? We also need Paul's Gliscor to be added......--'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 21:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:Done. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 05:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
== Voice actors? ==
Okay, this is getting insane. Yes, I know Pokémon's been translated and dubbed into nearly every world language... but we can't just keep adding the people who voice Ash in every single dub. That's making an entire paragraph to itself! From his page as it stands:
"His Japanese voice actress is 松本梨香 Rica Matsumoto, his English voice actresses are Veronica Taylor (4Kids Entertainment dub) and Sarah Natochenny (Pokémon USA/TAJ Productions dub), his Brazilian voice actor is Fábio Lucindo, his Italian voice actor is Davide Garbolino, and his Spanish voice actors are Adolfo Moreno (Spain) and Gabriel Ramos (Latin America). In the first dub of The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon he was voiced by Jamie Peacock."
Honestly? I think a reduction to just English and Japanese would be fine. It's great that we have the vocal talents of so many individuals in so many languages, but really, seriously, do we need to list them ''all''? We have the [[list of voice actors]], we could even link to that! Perhaps even expand the list to include other not-so-minor characters like Elite Four members and Gym Leaders. But on a character's page, spending an entire paragraph listing off every VA they've ever had in every language is just insane.
...speaking of which, the list of VAs needs to be reorganized. I say put those who voice in EP languages first, since they're far more likely to a: have an article over on ''their'' wiki so we don't have to just make a stub here, and b: I believe people would be more interested in seeing who does so in the languages of the wikis we affiliate with. The biggest problem I see is that it's huge table × huge table.
Anyway. THOUGHTS?! <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 18:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well we only have the huge voice paragraphs on major characters, such as Brock, Misty, Ash, Dawn, Gary, etc. Like look at (random pick) [[Egan]] for example. He has one sentence:
''His English voice actress is Amy Birnbaum and his Japanese voice actress is 柳沢三千代 Michiyo Yanagisawa.''
Many minor characters have only one sentence, the big pharagraphs are only for the main characters. I think we can live with them. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 19:51, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:Well, still, it confuses the hell out of me when I have to go through three sentences to find who voiced character X in English because people don't wanna delete one "and" and write another, so they just put the VAs in between the English and Japanese ones. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
::Hmm...well that's tru. I guess you're right. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 21:25, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree that we only need Japanese and English voice actors on the character's pages. Heck, some characters we don't even have the English VA, yet we have the Brazilian/Portuguese voice actors. Maybe to compensate, we could have a list of voice actors in other languages page (actually, we kind of [[List of voice actors|already do]]). --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 23:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Exactly. We just need to fix it up because the charting's not too good... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 23:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
== Arbok and Weezing... ==
Okay, we know that Wobby and Chimecho/Mime Jr. appear in every episode, but I remember the days in which Ekans/Arbok and Koffing/Weezing were the TR mascot Pokémon. Sure, they didn't pop out of their Balls, but at least one of them was used in literally every battle until somewhere around mid-Johto... Though if they get "mascot Pokémon" status, so should Piplup. What's everyone think? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy''' 03:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:Piplup has arguably been used as a mascot in general lately, to be sure. It and the other Sinnoh starters.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::Obviously. But it's out of the ball nearly all the time, too... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]Fire echy''' 07:11, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
== APER ==
And by that I mean the anime Pokémon evolution rule. It says "DOESN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THE EPISODE AIRS". Well, I believe that this only applies to Pokémon, strictly for the season articles. Events from future episodes should still be listed, doesn't everyone think so? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:46, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
: As long as the events are confirmed and not excessively spoiler-laden, why not?  - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 00:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
::And Pokémon ownership is not mentioned, of course. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
== British and Australian English ==
I think British and Australian englidh titles should at least redirect to their American names. eg: [[Alternate Colouration]] redirects to [[Alternate Coloration]] I am Australian, and the way it currently is, i type in [[Alternate Colouration]] ad get nothing. Edit: Okay, that's been fixed now, but i think it should still be mentioned. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 00:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC))
== Brock's Happiny ==
[[Brock's Happiny]] isn't in the list... can someone add her to the list? [[User:Ej92|Ej92]] 03:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
What list--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:##0000FF;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#996666;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 03:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
== HM moves ==
I think it should be in the manual that HM takes an "a" not an "an".
"A HM move"
"An HM move"
Does the latter not sound ridiculous?
Bulbapedia is littered with that the incorrect use.[[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 14:30, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, but it's not just in "HM."  I'm a personal stickler for grammar, so I always seek stuff like that out and fix it, and it would be great for you to do the same.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 14:33, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
::A HM? No one pronounces it "aych emm"? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:28, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::That depends on whether one likes to pronounce as it would be written as "HM" or "Hidden Machine". I'd say that it should be "an HM"; if the article says "Hidden Machine", then use the "a" article. <span style="color: #3FFF00; font-weight: bold">UltimateSephiroth</span> <sup>(<span style="color: #003FFF">[[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]</span>)</sup> 16:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
== Snow way out problem ==
Could someone please remove the exclamation point on Snow way out because with it the link isnt working. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 16:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, I fixed the problem, but the exclamation point shouldn't be removed from the title, since it ''is'' part of the title. I moved the page accordingly. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 16:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
== Dawn's Piplup ==
As much as I hate to say it, I think Piplup should now be always on the top of list. Considering I saw it's name in the credits of [[Message of the Wind]], along with the list of human main characters, Pikachu, and Meowth, in the recent episodes. What do you guys think? [[User:Ej92|Ej92]] 13:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:It got its own ending. Editorial board, your say in this? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
::At this point, as long as the series is considering it to be a main character, I'd say put it at the top. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 14:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
== Form vs Forme ==
Speaking of which, why are we using the latter version? Shouldn't we be using that which is more grammatically correct? I have no idea where "forme" came from, did someone mistranslate an official source and everyone latched on to that afterwards? [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 06:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
No, "Forme" is the official name for that, for example, Deoxys' forms in Pokémon.com Dex are written as "Normal Forme", "Speed Forme", "Defense Forme", "Attack Forme". I think they will use this for Shaymin and Giratina too --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 06:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
:"Forme" is completely wrong.  Someone misinterpreted a Japanese source as being an official spelling.  Anything spelling it as "forme" is wrong.  This whole "forme" bull**** will simply blow over with no damage done.  The new form of Giratina will be known as the "Origin Form" in America, and by then this whole "forme" argument will have been long since forgotten.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
At least for Deoxys is official... --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 04:19, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
== I oppose ==
Lists of Pokémon in other articles:<br>"Unless there is a specific reason to order them otherwise, lists of Pokémon should be sorted according to their National Dex number."
I oppose that. No wait, I '''strongly''' oppose that. You wanna know why? Well, say you disconnect {{p|Rhydon}} and {{p|Rhyperior}} from being next to each other. If you do that, people who don't know much about Pokémon may not know that Rhydon and Rhyperior are related. We don't want that, do we? --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 01:09, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's not gonna change. It's in National Dex order everywhere! Changing it would be the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life, besides your antics. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 01:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::You think I'm stupid?! I never said anything to you! What the HELL?! --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 01:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I said that what you do is stupid. I didn't say you were stupid. <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 01:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::::How exactly are my actions stupid? I've added information about the {{game|Platinum}} [[move tutor]]s, and you think my edits are stupid? --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 01:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Why no response?! --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 01:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Possibly because people live in different time zones, and he probably already went to bed. And, why should the one good thing you do justify all the bad things you do? ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 01:45, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::When have I done any bad things? --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 01:46, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::hmm... a quick look at my talk page, and other admins' talk pages, as well as various places on the archives shows what the bad things you have done: there are too many to list here, if you want to know them, look in the places specified. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 01:56, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
This is getting irrelevant to the purpose of this discussion. Let's get back to the purpose, okay? --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 01:58, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:Many lists allow for a specific reason. Abilities give that specific reason. What else do you wanna list by evofamily? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:46, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::Because by not putting Rhydon and Rhyperior next to each other, it might make some people unaware of the fact that they're related. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 20:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Who cares if someone doesn't think that they're related? If they really want to know, they can click on the link and go find out themselves--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font><font color="#42528C">Racer</font>''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''<font color="#FF5A00"><small>''-talk''</small></font>''']] 20:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Bulbapedia should be as descriptive as possible. Therefore, we don't wanna get people confused and have to make them look at a different page to rid the confusion. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 20:37, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Sorting by ndex number is an easily-followed standard. Sorting by evolution family makes sense, yes, but there's no real "official" way to do it. I'd suspect it'd just cause confusion. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 23:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Actually, evofamily standard would just put the new evos/prevos by the first member of their family introduced, like in the [[list of Pokémon by evolution family]] I spent forever putting together way back when... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
== Anime Pokémon links ==
Why should we link to redirects with anime Pokémon links? For example, if we wanted to talk about [[Ash's Grotle]] when it was a {{p|Turtwig}}, why should we link to [[Ash's Turtwig]] instead of Ash's Grotle? We could always do it like this:
<code><nowiki>[[Ash's Grotle|Turtwig]]</nowiki></code>
Or like this:
<code><nowiki>[[Ash's Grotle|Ash's Turtwig]]</nowiki></code>
See? We can say "Ash's Turtwig" and avoid a redirect link. So, why should we link to redirects with anime Pokémon? <sup>[[user:chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">Cho</span>]][[user talk:chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">col</span>]][[special:contributions/chocolate|<span style="color:#6D351A;">ate</span>]]</sup> 16:09, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:Bump. <span style="color: #3FFF00; font-weight: bold">UltimateSephiroth</span> <sup>(<span style="color: #003FFF">[[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]</span>)</sup> 21:32, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::Because when you hover over it then it displays what it becomes. Someone who only watched the end of Johto doesn't want to be looking through the article on EP265 and see Ash's Donphan in the tooltip. Plus, it's a pain to do and just adds more bytes to the page which can be solved with a redirect. If you guys would understand: REDIRECTS AREN'T EVIL in most instances, especially one created by a link template. Is Ash ever going to catch another Charmander? Signs point to no. We may rethink it if Tauros ever evolves, but I put the chance of that happening at about 1%. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:25, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Thanks for clarifying this, though I think you got the image that both of us were against the current way it is done :P <font color="#3fff00">'''UltimateSephiroth'''</font> <sup>([[User:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">about me</font>]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">chat</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])</sup> 00:48, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
== -moz-border-radius ==
Should we add this to the part about tables, as it is now part of the standards?--'''[[User:Prmatt11|<span style="color:#FE2E9A">''Mew''</span>]] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 18:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
:Hah, even though the entire manual is outdated and being remade. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 19:05, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
:(edit conflict) I think for general tables, we don't need to make a note; the rounded corners are mainly a standard in templates, which aren't created often enough to really need a style guide. We still use the normal table style for simple tables in articles, like on [[Nature]]. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 19:06, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::I use Safari and I think that we should also add "-webkit-border-radius" as it is not biased against any other browser besides Firefox. [[User:Pandamonia|Pan]]·[[User:Pandamonia|da]]·[[User:Pandamonia|mo]]·[[User_talk:Pandamonia|ni]]·[[Special:Contributions/Pandamonia|a]] 00:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Bringing up Pandamonia's comment, [http://www.css3.info/preview/rounded-border/ this page should help] in finding borders.--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#FE2E9A">''Mew''</span>]] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 00:03, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
== Upgrade ahoy ==
Yeah we're finally getting around to breaking this iceberg up so the users can pick and choose which parts to read without being confronted by a wall of text. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 04:28, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
== Pokémon redirects ==
Should Pokémon redirects (like [[Remoraid]]) be changed to have TCG groups on them as have the redirect pages like [[Eevee]]? It would help when searching for a specific Pokémon's card. --[[Gallade|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''エ'''</span>]][[User:Galladeon|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''ルレ'''</span>]][[User talk:Galladeon|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''イ'''</span><span style="color:#93abc3;">'''ド'''</span>]] 05:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
== Redirect ==
Does it matter if there is a redirect on the Manual of Style? It has a link to Bulbapedia Shortlinks, which redirects to Bulbapedia:List of link templates. --<span style="border: 2px solid #00CCCC">[[User:GreenGyarados|<span style="color:#00FF00">♫Green</span>]][[Gyarados (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#0BDA51">♫ギャラドス♫</span>]][[User Talk:GreenGyarados|<span style="color:#00CCCC">Talk♫</span>]]</span> 15:32, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
==Dawn's Piplup==
Piplup needs to be removed from Dawn's section and put into the top section like Pikachu, Togepi, Mime Jr., etc are. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 22:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
== Updated Party! ==
Hey admins, I think Ash's Gible, Monferno, Infernape, Grotle and Torterra should be added in the ''Ash's Pokémon'' just like others. Thank you. --<span style="color:#00FF00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#99CCFF;">'''Niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00FF00">♪♫</span> 18:09, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
== Interlanguage Links ==
What is missing here is a section on interlanguage links. Is there any preferred order? Like, for example, alphabetically ordered by the language prefixes (de, es, fr, ja, pl, pt)?--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|<sup>talk</sup>]] 12:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, alphabetical order is what happens. If they aren't in that order, Bulbabot ends up fixing them. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 13:34, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
==Poké'''g'''ear==
In the section [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style#Nouns, capitalization, and specific terminology]], it tells users to use Poké'''G'''ear as the capitalization, when the correct form is Poké'''g'''ear. [[PokéNav]] could be used instead for a camelcase example. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Done, thanks. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 11:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
== Quick question ==
When quoting a line from the games, should I copy it letter for letter or should I reformat it to meet the style standards? Example: "Hey! You have POKéMON! Come on! Let's battle'em!" Should I remove the all-caps on "POKéMON"? This would, of course, apply to almost every proper noun quoted in the early RPGs ("TEAM ROCKET", "FISSURE", "CASCADEBADGE"). And should I render the last words as "battle'em" or "battle 'em" (with the space) or "battle'em [sic]"? Thanks for the help. --[[User:MaskedFalcon|MaskedFalcon]] 14:38, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:If it's a direct quote from the games, you should quote it exactly, regardless of grammar issues. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 16:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::Capitals however we just spell them like every other proper noun; the item template's description is a good example... they're direct quotes from the games but Gen I-III have the ALLCAPS written like a regular proper noun. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#d93f91;">Ťïňắ</span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#ae41d9;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#d941cf;">♥</span>]]</sup> 17:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
So it's "Hey! You have Pokémon! Come on! Let's battle'em!" I actually would prefer rendering the early-gen quotes exactly, all-caps and all, but I'll defer to y'all's judgment. The guidelines for quoting the games should probably be put in the Manual, also. --[[User:MaskedFalcon|MaskedFalcon]] 16:16, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
== update? ==
the pokemon list needs to be updated from the most recent japanese episode right?
it only goes up to before gliscor was release ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC))
:There are plenty of other parts in the MoS that need to be updated. We'll work on it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:17, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
== IMP0RTANT ERR0R!!11!!!1!! ==
In Formatting preferences section, Routes' linking haven't been updated. If you don't update it, n00bs link routes wrong!--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#C11B17">でんのう</font>]] <font color="#347C2C">☢</font>  [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#151B8D">'''Z'''えんし</font>]] 15:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:{{DL|Bulbapedia:Manual of style|Nouns, capitalization, and specific terminology}} also links to Routes using the old way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:22, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
::Nate got the first one earlier, I just did the second one. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 09:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
== updates to episode article section? ==
I believe the MoS needs to be updated to the BW series? Even though the English names have not been released, I'm sure it will be useful to have them here then translate them later? (if im not wrong its Ash-Misty-May-Dawn-'''Iris'''-Brock-Tracey-'''Dent'''-Jessie-James?)<br>---> '''[[User:AquaDragon|{{color|6890F0|Aqua}}]][[User_talk:AquaDragon|{{color|7038F8|Dragon}}]]''' 09:08, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:Although this should have been done a long time ago, done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:31, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
== Piplup ==
DP may be over, but Piplup has not yet been moved from Dawn's Pokémon to "Always on Top". --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 22:25, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:Although this should have been done a long time ago, done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:31, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
== Update ==
The anime Pokémon list needs to be updated.  I propose the order go: Ash-Misty-May-Dawn-Iris-Brock-Tracey-Cilan-Jessie-James.  Ash's Monferno, Grotle, Torterra, Infernape, Gible, Quilava, Pidove, Oshawott, Tepig, Snivy, Scraggy (Zuruggu for one more week), and Sewaddle, Dawn's Togekiss and Quilava, Iris's Axew and Excadrill, Brock's Chansey, Cilan's Pansage and Dwebble (Ishizumai), and Jessie's Woobat need to be added.  Trip's Pokémon should probably also be added.--[[User:Trebligoniqua|Trebligoniqua]] 05:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
:Updated. It seems that this list hadn't been updated for a very long time. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
== Contractions ==
May I suggest that use of contractions be avoided in articles (outside of quotes, of course)?  They are very casual-sounding, and very non-encyclopaedic.--[[User:Trebligoniqua|Trebligoniqua]] 05:52, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think that that might be a good idea. I personally prefer not having contractions and in most cases would advise against them in articles, I don't think we should make it a policy or anything. A mention in here may be a good idea. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
== Scientific names ==
This has bothered me for quite sometime now. Knowing that anyone who took biology classes would know that scientific names should be '''''italicized''''' (or at least written differently from the other text). These names usually appear in the name origin section, and not a lot of people would seem  to bother to italicize them. May I suggest a rule for this. I mean, we do have rules on romanizations, so why not this? --<font color="#990000" face="DFKaiSB">'''神智の</font>[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E" face="DFKaiSB">超龍</font>]]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」''' 14:18, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
== A couple of things... ==
# Trip's Pokémon use their Japanese names and are causing redirects
# There's some random <math></math> coding below the bulleted lists and it looks '''way''' out of place. Anyone?
[[User:Takharii|<span style="color:#FFD733;">'''たか'''</span>]][[User talk:Takharii|<span style="color:#DAA520;">'''はり'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''い'''</span>]] 09:50, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
:Ooh, one more thing I didn't notice before: The images still use the <nowiki>[[Image: extension instead of [[File:</nowiki> [[User:Takharii|<span style="color:#FFD733;">'''たか'''</span>]][[User talk:Takharii|<span style="color:#DAA520;">'''はり'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|<span style="color:#B69E00;">'''い'''</span>]] 10:02, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
== Paul's Starly ==
Paul has captured tree Starly in dp002 i think. He released al tree of them.--[[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]] 06:52, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
== [[Iris's Emolga]] ==
Should update this into the manual of style? :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 13:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
:Looks like it's done already. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 01:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
== Evolutionary Stages ==
Why exactly are the TCG terms frowned upon (e.g. basic Pokémon, 1st stage Pokémon etc.)? They seem less cumbersome than the (fan-made) terms 1st evolution, 2nd evolution etc. The article states that the problem was that Pikachu would be a basic Pokémon by TCG standards and yet has already evolved once...and what? I always took "Basic" to mean an unevolved Pokémon, ''excluding'' evolutions from the baby stage. I mean, I'm not a proper TCG fan but that seems to be the relationship between Basic & Baby Pokémon. I just think it would be better to use actual canon terminology for stages of evolution.[[User:Green Zubat|Green Zubat]] 18:36, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
== Updates ==
Can someone remove the link to Paul's Drapion? Drapion no longer has its own page so that link isn't needed. Also, Vanillite, Timburr, and Gurdurr need to be added to Trip's section. Thanks. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 15:40, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
== Iris's Axew ==
Can someone put her Axew on the article and link it to it's page. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truthseeker4449]] 21:54, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
:It's actually already there, under "Always on top". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:46, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
== Meowth example of naming conventions ==
I noticed the line in the Naming Conventions section "Therefore, the article [[Meowth]] will not redirect to [[Meowth (Pokémon)]]", which is rather odd since that's exactly what it does.  Just wanted to point out the contradiction. [[User:Shashakiro|Shashakiro]] 16:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
:That's because that's the way it used to be, but we decided that was rather unnecessary, so now the disambiguations are located at [[Meowth (disambiguation)]] etc. We just forgot to update this page, although now it has. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:17, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
== Question about wikicode ==
I am not sure where I am supposed to put this, so I will ask it here.  When I am typing on an article's talk page, how can I go to the next line?  If I press Enter like every other text field, the cursor on the text box goes to the next line, but when I save the text it appears on the same line.  How can this be fixed? [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 03:00, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
:Do you mean indenting? If so, you just put a colon (:) before your comment.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 03:06, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
::No, I knew how to indent.  What I meant is that when I press enter, the text box goes to the next line, but when I save the text, it doesn't go to the next line. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 13:11, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
::: That's easy. All you have to do is to add <nowiki><br></nowiki> or <nowiki>{{-}}</nowiki> after the text. This would break the line. [[User:Poke.geek|<span style="color:#ED9121;">'''P'''</span>]][[User talk:Poke.geek|<span style="color:#ED9121;">'''okége'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Poke.geek|<span style="color:#ED9121;">'''ek'''</span>]] 13:18, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
::::Alternately, leave a blank line between your paragraphs rather than just starting on a new line.
Like this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:20, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::Let me test that...
It seems to work.  Thanks. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 00:42, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
==Japanese in tooltips==
I'm seeing a row of squares on any tooltip which is supposed to display Japanese text. It seems to be a problem affecting both Chrome and IE. It affects things like the [[:Template:Party|Party template]], as can be seen for example on [[White Treehollow]]'s boss trainers list. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 15:12, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
:Do you have the Japanese pack thingy installed? What system are you running? Version of IE? Version of Chrome? What about Japanese text not in tooltips? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 15:15, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
==Talk Pages==
I'm still new to Bulbapedia. How do you indent your response on the talk pages when answering someone's question? [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 23:38, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
:You indent by adding a colon : before the first word of your comment. The number of colons added should be one greater than the amount in the previous talk page section comment. [[User:G50|<span style="color:red">''ㄱ''</span>]][[User talk:G50|<span style="color:green">''쉰''</span>]] G50 23:44, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
::Thank you! I couldn't find it on the manual of style. [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 00:45, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
:::It's listed on the [[Bulbapedia:Wikicode#Indents|Wikicode]] page under indents. [[User:G50|<span style="color:red">''ㄱ''</span>]][[User talk:G50|<span style="color:green">''쉰''</span>]] G50 00:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
== Minor Edits? ==
I'm new to editing pages, and I was wondering, what counts as a "minor edit" and what does that classification even affect? Because it seems all of my edits are quite minor (adding/deleting/formatting a sentence or two, fixing minor spelling/grammar mistakes, etc.) but I don't know where to draw the line as "minor". Thanks in advance. [[User:Whitsoxrule|Whitsoxrule]] ([[User talk:Whitsoxrule|talk]]) 06:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
:There is no strict definition; it is up to the user if they think it classifies as minor. Relinking, spelling and grammar fixes, and section reordering are generally considered minor, whereas if you restructure an an entire sentence or two it probably isn't. There is a grey area where it is perfectly acceptable to go either way. There is no punishment for incorrectly flagging edits as minor (although you might get a nudge if you rewrite an entire article and flag it as minor). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:21, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks. But what does the "minor edit" classification even affect? Does it get put on some list somewhere or what? [[User:Whitsoxrule|Whitsoxrule]] ([[User talk:Whitsoxrule|talk]]) 08:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
:::Really, not much. Some users prefer not to bother reading minor edits, and there is an option to hide all minor edits in the recent changes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:13, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
== Plural Pokémon names ==
This says that the plural form of all Pokémon names are the same as their singular forms. However, in [[EP001]], [[Ash]] uses "Spearows" as the plural for "{{p|Spearow}}" when referring to the flock that is chasing both himself and [[Ash's Pikachu|Pikachu]]. {{unsigned|Mangaman13}}
:That's called an error. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 00:16, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
== Words with multiple spellings ==
Does Bulbapedia have any guidelines for words with multiple spellings that are equally correct, such as "canceled" and "cancelled"? [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 23:25, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
:Whichever is used in the Pokémon games should be used (US English is the default). In [https://iimarckus.org/dumps/dred.txt R][https://iimarckus.org/dumps/dblue.txt B][https://iimarckus.org/dumps/dyellow.txt Y], [https://iimarckus.org/dumps/dcrystal.txt C], [https://iimarckus.org/dumps/druby.txt RS], [https://iimarckus.org/dumps/dfirered.txt FRLG] and HGSS, "canceled" is used (other games not checked, but that much consistency indicates other games also likely do so). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:03, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
== Oxford Comma ==
What's Bulbapedia's policy on the Oxford Comma? -- [[User:EnosShayrem|EnosShayrem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|<sub>talk</sub>]] 01:58, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
:Could have sworn this was already there (but it's not). Usage of the serial comma is generally preferred. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:48, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
== Plural ==
Because "persons" is the wrong plural, will anyone change the plural to "people"? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 04:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
:It is not necessarily wrong. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 07:49, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
::Oh, thank you for letting me know, I think "persons" might be right, not "people" so that's true. --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 08:53, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
== Verb Tense ==
Should articles be written in the past or present verb tense? [[Delia Ketchum|This article]]'s plot summary switches between the two and it's not clear which one should be used. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 19:06, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
:While I've seen it done both ways, articles should definitely not be switching between the two. I noticed that neither this or the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime|Anime Manual of Style]] mentioned the preferred tense. I'll talk to {{u|Kenji-girl}} and the other Editorial Board members about getting this added. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 19:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
== ''<font face="times new roman">x</font>'' is a ''<font face="times new roman">y</font>''-type ==
In a {{m|Sandstorm}}'s {{DL|Weather|Gates to Infinity descriptions}}, it states "the {{color|{{blue color light}}|Sp. Def}} of {{tt|Rock types|note the lack of a hyphen}} goes up.". This would mean that things like "Charmander is a {{type|Fire}}" are incorrect, but things like "{{p|Charmander}} is a {{t|Fire|Fire type}}" '''are''' correct. In this case, "Fire type"/"Fire-type" is a noun anyway. You don't say adjectives after "is a(n)", you use nouns (e.g. "He is a runner" instead of "He is a running"). [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]])</small> 15:44, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
:You are almost entirely correct and in agreement with the "Nouns, capitalization, and specific terminology" section of the MoS. The only issue is that you said "Fire-type" is a noun, when it is not; it's exclusively an adjective, which is why "Charmander is Fire-type" is correct but "Charmander is a Fire-type" is incorrect. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:15, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
== Spelling/numerals for numbers ==
I more or less understand that this site is supposed to follow a "professional" style. However, I think judicious exceptions should be made for the fact that people ''do'' use Bulbapedia as a FAQ/walkthrough kind of resource. One of my pet peeves is the idea of "always" spelling out low numbers. IMO, numbers are often important pieces of information and deserve highlighting as numerals so they're easy for users to spot and focus on in the text.
In particular, I simply hate cases where [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Berry_fields&diff=2111240&oldid=2111236 a number can change] based on circumstances, and in one of those circumstances the number is low and "should" be spelled out while in the other it's higher and "can" be in numerals; doing it like that makes it more difficult than it needs to be to pick out the different cases (I know immediately where the higher number is, but have no idea where the lower one is - possibly even that there ''is'' a lower number).
Basically, my question is this: is the spelling out of low numbers (currently) a hard rule that should be followed on Bulbapedia, or is it flexible? And if it is (currently) a rule to follow, could the possibility of allowing exceptions be considered?
[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:44, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
:It turns out Wikipedia advocates using a single style for "comparable" numbers, as seen in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Numbers Numbers section] of their Manual of Style (the third bullet point below "Notes and exceptions"). This is basically the special situation I described above. We could certainly do worse than to follow Wikipedia's example... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:19, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
::If this question has caught staff attention, might someone be so kind as to at least say as much? I really want to know the answer to this question, and I hate [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Berry_fields&curid=185740&diff=2112758&oldid=2112750 when people can only say] we "usually" spell out small numbers. "Usually" does not strictly indicate a well-considered conclusion. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:29, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't know what stylebooks Bulbapedia tends to go by, as it seems kind of based on admins' whimsy, but for what it's worth, the relevant passages from the AP Stylebook: "'''Numerals''' In general, spell out one through nine ... Use figures for 10 and above ... Times: Spell out numbers less than 10 standing alone and in modifiers: ''I'll be there in five minutes. ... An eight-hour day. The two-minute warning.''" APA [http://www.una.edu/writingcenter/docs/Writing-Resources/The%20Rules%20Regarding%20the%20Use%20Numerals%20in%20APA%20and%20MLA%20styles.pdf agrees with AP] that it should be one through nine spelled out, 10 and above in figures. MLA (same link as APA) agrees with you that parallel units should use parallel writing styles. I can't find a solid source on Chicago style, but Googling seems to suggest that it spells out everything from 99 and below, which is completely against Bulbapedia style (as virtually any pageview can make clear) so that's a moot point. Strunk and White don't seem to have a specific rule about it in ''The Elements of Style'', so that's another moot point. Those are all the major professional stylebooks I can think of. Just throwing all this information out there so the staff has more data with which to make an informed decision. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:17, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
:As for my view, there are some places where spelling out small numbers will look awkward. Examples include levels, quantities marked as "x#", route numbers, and card numbers. Also, I agree there has to be parallel writing styles; otherwise, a page may appear confusing as to what style is best. I'll see what the rest of the staff thinks. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 15:25, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
::I pretty much agree with the above as far as for a general rule of thumb, one through nine should be spelt out, ten and higher should use figures. However I'm also a bit flexible on this rule and wouldn't mind to see that number extended up to twenty, this is with stand alone numbers of course. When it comes to the nitty gritty though, WP:MOSNUM is a good stand in as a professional resource. This isn't to say as stated by Berrenta there are exceptions to the rule, we aren't going to go around changing Route 1 to Route One and we aren't going to change XY001 to XYOne. Some instances just have to work off a case by case basis, as far as the Berry Fields page, I agree the numbers should be in numeral form as we spell out 24, as in line with point three in WP:MOSNUM. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:06, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
== Copyright? ==
Is it acceptable to add small tidbits of information to Bulbapedia that have been researched from another site but not copied word-for-word, as long as a citation is used? [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 20:16, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
: yes. --[[User:Valehd|<span style="color:cerulean">Valehd</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Valehd|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 22:44, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
::As long as it's not another fansite, then yes.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 02:34, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
== Are Quotes allowed?  ==
I added a quote to the start of the [[Ashachu]] page. Is this alright? --[[User:CTBMC|CTBMC]] ([[User talk:CTBMC|talk]]) 20:25, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
:We don't put quotes at the start of pages, as is occasionally seen on other wikis. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:31, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
==Two things==
First of all, under the Nouns, capitalization, and specific terminology section, it lists DeepSeaTooth as an example of correct formatting, but as of Gen VI, isn't that incorrect? This was the only issue I noticed but there might be more.
Also, use of the serial comma was brought up earlier on this talk page, but it still isn't mentioned on the page itself. Could a mention of it be added somewhere? [[User:Slimey01|<span style="color:#40A060">'''slimey'''</span>]][[User talk:Slimey01|<span style="color:#E88686">'''01'''</span>]] 21:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
== Why aren't titles formatted here? ==
I don't understand why the titles of games (among other things) aren't italicized on Bulbapedia. According to the Chicago Manual of Style (which is roughly what is used on most Wikis), like movies, the name or title of a game should be italicized, eg. "''[[Pokémon Yellow]]''" (See: [http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/InternetWebandOtherPost-WatergateConcerns/faq0008.html The Chicago Manual of Style Online: Internet, Web, and Other Post-Watergate Concerns]). This also extends to the titles as displayed in Heading 1 of their articles. [[User:DKqwerty|DKqwerty]] ([[User talk:DKqwerty|talk]]) 16:15, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
== Edits in advance ==
Is there any rule as to how far beforehand certain info can be added? For instance, with the newly announced Pokémon Generations series, would one be free to go ahead and update character articles with "[CHARACTER] will make an appearance in Pokémon Generations, they are seen in the trailer doing this..."? [[User:TheFatPanda|TheFatPanda]] ([[User talk:TheFatPanda|talk]]) 15:37, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
== What's the deal with the order types are listed in? ==
Everywhere on this wiki seems to use the same order for the listing of types (normal, fighting, flying, poison..). Other than the original physical types followed by the original special types, this order seems arbitrary. It doesn't seem to be written down as official bulbapedia practice from what I can tell, either. Official guides and manuals use the normal, fire, water, electric.. order, which makes this even more odd since everything (except EVs...) on this wiki uses official terminology. What is the meaning behind this order, and why is it used over the official type order? [[User:Gibraltar|Gibraltar]] ([[User talk:Gibraltar|talk]]) 19:25, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
:[[Pokémon Sun and Moon]] and previous games use the Normal, Fighting, Flying, etc. order. Regardless of whether the order is officially used, the order isn't important enough to warrant changing it just because the newest material uses a different order. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 19:45, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
::The order Bulbapedia uses is also the internal order of the types in the Pokémon games. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:05, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
== IPA pronunciations ==
Is there any -reason why IPA pronunciation guides aren't/ shouldn't used? It could be useful information. [[User:Haream|Haream]] ([[User talk:Haream|talk]]) 03:45, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
:[[Talk:Main Page#Pronounciation|This]] may give you an answer. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:51, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
== Usage of "you" ==
The words ''you'', ''your'', ''yours'', ''yourself'', ''yourselves'' mustn't be discouraged in quotes spoken by [[NPC]]s and walkthroughs. On all other pages, the text ''the {{player}}'' should appear. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#2b2">'''TheICT'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#22b">'''Liker4'''</span>]] 09:34, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
:Unless it's paraphrasing a quote from an interview/Q&A etc., then using “you” is fine. Also, don't change the contents of the quote, as it is a direct wording from the source.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:59, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
::But why is it stated that the category {{cat|Walkthroughs}} “has many articles that don't follow Bulbapedia's manual of style”? This confuses me a lot. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#2b2">'''TheICT'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#22b">'''Liker'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#b62">'''4'''</span>]] 19:33, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
:::The template is saying that many of the articles on there aren't polished/complete/up to standard. Not because it's using "you".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
::::Understood. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#2b2">'''TheICT'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#22b">'''Liker'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#b62">'''4'''</span>]] 07:07, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
== Using [[Template:TR]] ==
Can <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:TR|TR]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> be included under [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style#Formatting preferences]]? &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]<sup>[[wikipedia:m:Special:CentralAuth/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 14:24, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
== form of English ==
Hello
Can we please have something in the manual of style where we establish what style of English to use?
Fore example, I tend to use UK and Kenyan Engilsh, I am unfamilliar with U.S. English save for like "color" instead of the more complete "colour." 
Once we determine which style of English is preferable, we should make it clear for accomidations for those who are unfamilliar with the chosen style of English.  Fore example, if you pick U.S. English as the Bulba-English, you must have a rule stating to always allow some leeway for those who are unfamilliar with U.S. English, this way we're not having a plethora of terse and chastizing corrections.
Would you guys, let's say, be willing to allow a British or South African editor like myself (I'm Ugandan) to use our native form of English then if you wish to change it to U.S. English to do so with a highly respectful edit summary, that makes it clear that the style the original editor used is not incorrect, but rather it's being done for consistency?  I know to some it may appear obvious, but for those who are especially new, it might not be.
I'd like to see some mention of English style in the MOS so that when you direct people to it they'll know where Bulbapedia stands, whether it is open to UK English just as much as U.S. English or not.
This is a problem I've had on other wikis where people were unfriendly to me because I wasn't familliar with U.S. English and they wanted on ly U.S. English.
thanks.
[[User:African Vulture|African Vulture]] ([[User talk:African Vulture|talk]]) 13:08, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
: I agree. This and many other threads on this page bring up valid points that I think should be added to the MOS in a MAJOR update. [[User:Eragon4|Eragon4]] ([[User talk:Eragon4|talk]]) 14:41, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
::I have only seen U.S. English being used here and this wiki should reflect as such. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:30, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
== Evolved ==
What about using the word "evolved" in place of "first evolution", and "second evolution"?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 11:44, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
: "Evolved" is too ambiguous, and could refer to either. [[User:Eragon4|Eragon4]] ([[User talk:Eragon4|talk]]) 13:42, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
== Italicized episode titles ==
As a longtime visitor, I’ve always been a bit confused as to why episode titles are italicized here instead of put in quotes, as in the normal convention. I get that the pairs of apostrophes in wikicode mimic quotation marks, but once published have two very different results. Heck, books like the Pokémon Adventures manga have no formatting, when books in normal convention are italicized. I tried to find an answer within the MOS text, but couldn’t find any. I’m not demanding it change, as it’s become ingrained in Bulbapedia aesthetic, but some clarity would be nice (and I get why epcodes don’t get any formatting whatsoever, it makes complete sense)--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 06:57, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:They're not italicized because "the apostrophes look like quotation marks", otherwise we would've just used quotation marks in the first place. That's just the way it has been for a long time. Epicodes don't get italicized because they are generally used in the context of the Japanese version of an episode and thus don't have an English title (and we're not going to use the Japanese title because we're an English wiki).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:30, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
::But they’re italicized even after getting English titles…--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 15:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:::And?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:23, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
== Policy update ==
As PM97 said in his recent MftE, we're updating our policies, and this is the perhaps biggest and most impactful of them all. If any users have input on this MoS, suggestions for changes/additions which are needed, or want to provide other input, please comment here on the Talk Page. -- '''[[User:evkl|<span style="color:#000099">evkl</span>]]''' <sub>[[User_talk:evkl|<span style="color:#006699">(need to talk?)</span>]]</sub> 14:29, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
As PM97 said in his recent MftE, we're updating our policies, and this is the perhaps biggest and most impactful of them all. If any users have input on this MoS, suggestions for changes/additions which are needed, or want to provide other input, please comment here on the Talk Page. -- '''[[User:evkl|<span style="color:#000099">evkl</span>]]''' <sub>[[User_talk:evkl|<span style="color:#006699">(need to talk?)</span>]]</sub> 14:29, 15 August 2020 (UTC)