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::::Then we shouldn't count rival's starters at all. Eevee in Yellow isn't a player's starter as far as gameplay mechanics are concerned, since it's impossible for the player to start with it. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 06:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
::::Then we shouldn't count rival's starters at all. Eevee in Yellow isn't a player's starter as far as gameplay mechanics are concerned, since it's impossible for the player to start with it. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 06:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::You’re completely twisting his words. Where did Tierno get his Corphish? Was it Professor-administered? Or did he catch it on his own? This isn’t the anime where he, Trevor and Shauna got the Kanto starters. Also, if I were to do what you’re doing, I would be trying to argue that since the Gym Leaders start a battle by sending out a Pokémon, that must be their starter Pokémon, and I’m sure you’d react by saying “That’s not what I mean”--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 17:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::You’re completely twisting his words. Where did Tierno get his Corphish? Was it Professor-administered? Or did he catch it on his own? This isn’t the anime where he, Trevor and Shauna got the Kanto starters. Also, if I were to do what you’re doing, I would be trying to argue that since the Gym Leaders start a battle by sending out a Pokémon, that must be their starter Pokémon, and I’m sure you’d react by saying “That’s not what I mean”--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 17:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::How am I twisting his words? And what does the source of Tierno's starter have to do with anything? A starter is a starter, there's no rule that only those handed out by professors count. And the whole "most trainers get their starters from Pokémon professors" thing isn't even true for the games AFAIK. In the very first games, Oak gave Charmander, Bulbasaur or Squirtle to the player because he wanted him to complete the Pokédex for him, and those were the only Pokémon he had left -- he said so himself. Nowhere is it stated that those are standard starter Pokémon, or that Oak was known for handing out starters. That's why how most NPC trainers in Kanto ''don't'' have a Charmander, Bulbasaur or Squirtle. Ditto for later games and regions. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 22:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::How am I twisting his words? And what does the source of Tierno's starter have to do with anything? A starter is a starter, there's no rule that only those handed out by professors count. And the whole "most trainers get their starters from Pokémon professors" thing isn't even true for the games AFAIK. In the very first games, Oak gave Charmander, Bulbasaur or Squirtle to the player because he wanted him to complete the Pokédex for him, and those were the only Pokémon he had left -- he said so himself. Nowhere is it stated that those are standard starter Pokémon, or that Oak was known for handing out starters. That's why most NPC trainers in Kanto ''don't'' have a Charmander, Bulbasaur or Squirtle. Ditto for later games and regions. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 22:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::”Nowhere is it stated that those are the standard starter Pokémon” But first Pokémon does not automatically mean Starter Pokémon, and that’s what you’re not understanding. Just because you first see Tierno with a Corphish does not mean it’s his starter.--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 22:45, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::”Nowhere is it stated that those are the standard starter Pokémon” But first Pokémon does not automatically mean Starter Pokémon, and that’s what you’re not understanding. Just because you first see Tierno with a Corphish does not mean it’s his starter.--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 22:45, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
(resetting indent) I mean, it's the ''only'' Pokémon he owns at the beginning of the game. What other Pokémon could possibly be his starter? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 22:53, 19 May 2020 (UTC)