Talk:Bulbasaur (Pokémon): Difference between revisions

(→‎Name origin: Game Frwak never explained the meaning of -saur on their site, unlike in the case of Charmander and Squirtle, so adding in place of replacing is likely better)
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:Well, the “saur” part in “dinosaur” means “lizard” as well. The literal meaning of the “dinosaur” term is “scary lizard”.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
:Well, the “saur” part in “dinosaur” means “lizard” as well. The literal meaning of the “dinosaur” term is “scary lizard”.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
::Even if that's the case, I think it's misleading to directly reference the Greek word and make no mention of "dinosaur". As it stands, the Name Origin section makes it sound like the localization team was trying to invoke the word "lizard", when I think it's more likely they were going for "dinosaur", seeing how most English Pokémon names are made up of combined English words, and it would be weird for them to call the grass starter a lizard when that's what the fire starter is supposed to be.
::Even if that's the case, I think it's misleading to directly reference the Greek word and make no mention of "dinosaur". As it stands, the Name Origin section makes it sound like the localization team was trying to invoke the word "lizard", when I think it's more likely they were going for "dinosaur", seeing how most English Pokémon names are made up of combined English words, and it would be weird for them to call the grass starter a lizard when that's what the fire starter is supposed to be.
::For comparison, look at the Werehog from Sonic Unleashed. "Were" means man, while a "hog" is a pig. But in that case, it's clear it's actually meant to be a combination of ''were''wolf and hedge''hog'', seeing it's literally Sonic turned into a werewolf. So saying that the name is derived from just "were" and "hog" would be inaccurate and misleading, and makes it sound like it's referring to a man who transforms into a pig. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 22:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
::For comparison, look at the Werehog from Sonic Unleashed. "Were" means man, while a "hog" is a pig. But in that case, it's clear it's actually meant to be a combination of ''were''wolf and hedge''hog'', seeing how it's literally Sonic turned into a werewolf. So saying that the name is derived from just "were" and "hog" would be inaccurate and misleading, and makes it sound like it's referring to a man who transforms into a pig. [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 22:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
:::You can add it as possible reference at this point, [https://web.archive.org/web/19990221135156/http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/POKEMON/NEWS/NEWS.HTM Game Freak by itself] never explained what that “saur” means, and now we know the reason - Bulbasaur is actually a frog. This means however that we cannot be fully sure, so probably it’s better to add that “-saur” is often used for dinosaur names, without removing the actual meaning of that “-saur” suffix.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 01:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
:::You can add it as possible reference at this point, [https://web.archive.org/web/19990221135156/http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/POKEMON/NEWS/NEWS.HTM Game Freak by itself] never explained what that “saur” means, and now we know the reason - Bulbasaur is actually a frog. This means however that we cannot be fully sure, so probably it’s better to add that “-saur” is often used for dinosaur names, without removing the actual meaning of that “-saur” suffix.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 01:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
::::Sounds good, I just edited the section to include cover possible meanings. Before I do the same with the Ivysaur and Venusaur articles for consistency, is it all right like this? [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 12:38, 9 January 2020 (UTC)