Talk:List of cross-generational evolution families: Difference between revisions

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::I think all regional forms should be included in this list even if we need to move the page to something like List of cross-generational evolution families. IMO, the Rattata family received new members in Generation VII just as much as the Exeggcute family did.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:#800080">13</span>]] 01:27, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
::I think all regional forms should be included in this list even if we need to move the page to something like List of cross-generational evolution families. IMO, the Rattata family received new members in Generation VII just as much as the Exeggcute family did.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:#800080">13</span>]] 01:27, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
:::I don't think we should count Alolan forms and Galarian forms as new Pokémon. They have the same numbers as their original forms. Alolan {{p|Exeggutor}} is still a Kantonian Pokémon as far as the National Dex is concerned. And this page treating Galarian forms as Gen VIII Pokémon meant it excludes {{p|Obstagoon}} and {{p|Sirfetch'd}}, which were two advertised cross-generation evolutions for Sword and Shield. And besides, the methods of evolving these Pokémon into their Alolan and Galarian forms are the same methods as normal. Pikachu evolves into both kinds of Raichu with a Thunderstone. It just has to be in Alola to be the Psychic-type. Exeggcute evolves into Exeggutor with a Leaf Stone anywhere. It just gets a longer neck in Alola. Alolan Marowak has an extra requirement to be nighttime but I don't think that qualifies as a crossgen evolution. Weezing gets a new form in Galar, but Koffing evolves into it at level 35 the same as the Kantonian Weezing. These regional variants do not belong on this page unless they are the forms required to evolve into Obstagoon, Sirfetch'd, Mr. Rime and Cursola. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
:::I don't think we should count Alolan forms and Galarian forms as new Pokémon. They have the same numbers as their original forms. Alolan {{p|Exeggutor}} is still a Kantonian Pokémon as far as the National Dex is concerned. And this page treating Galarian forms as Gen VIII Pokémon meant it excludes {{p|Obstagoon}} and {{p|Sirfetch'd}}, which were two advertised cross-generation evolutions for Sword and Shield. And besides, the methods of evolving these Pokémon into their Alolan and Galarian forms are the same methods as normal. Pikachu evolves into both kinds of Raichu with a Thunderstone. It just has to be in Alola to be the Psychic-type. Exeggcute evolves into Exeggutor with a Leaf Stone anywhere. It just gets a longer neck in Alola. Alolan Marowak has an extra requirement to be nighttime but I don't think that qualifies as a crossgen evolution. Weezing gets a new form in Galar, but Koffing evolves into it at level 35 the same as the Kantonian Weezing. These regional variants do not belong on this page unless they are the forms required to evolve into Obstagoon, Sirfetch'd, Mr. Rime and Cursola. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 04:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
The only problem with this is that Alolan Formes are still recognized as simply forms of the original pokemon, despite certain things such as different ways of evolution. Let's Go proves this by having all Alolan forms return since they are kanto pokemon


== Mr. Rime ==
== Mr. Rime ==


Sure it evolves from a Galar Pokémon, but it still is a part of a crossgenerational family. That's like saying we should remove Oddish from this article because it evolves into a Kanto Pokémon. [[User:Mr. Daikon|Mr. Daikon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Daikon|talk]]) 05:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Sure it evolves from a Galar Pokémon, but it still is a part of a crossgenerational family. That's like saying we should remove Oddish from this article because it evolves into a Kanto Pokémon. [[User:Mr. Daikon|Mr. Daikon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Daikon|talk]]) 05:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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