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GOChargedAttack template
 
When I created the category for locations that can only be accessed through events, I added only the locations that can ''never'' be accessed outside of events. So for example, because the [[Liberty Garden]] can be accessed normally in Black 2 and White 2, I didn't add it to the category. However, I recently realized something: while the [[Rotom's Room]] in Sinnoh is event-exclusive, the one in Kanto isn't. Should the category still be included there or not? What do you think? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:45, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
:I hope you didn't miss this? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:41, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
::I would lean towards including any location which is event-exclusive in any game to that category. So Southern Island should be too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:43, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Gotcha. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:47, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 
== GOChargedAttack template ==
 
I did some work on top of your draft for the GOChargedAttack template rework, and that for the GOLearnlist. Essentially I added fields to show opponent stat drops and a box to list historic patch updates to move stats. I've also aggregated all the needed info and recompiled all the templates ahead of time for if and when it gets mainspaced. Please let me know if there are any adjustments you'd like to see:
 
* [[User:TehPerson/Fast Attacks/1]]
* [[User:TehPerson/Charged Attacks/1]]
* [[User:TehPerson/Charged Attacks/2]]
 
[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 03:24, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
:I fixed some minor display issues in Firefox, where the round corners at the bottom of a table wouldn't show up.
:I really like what you've done with it. I prefer your notes column to start and end dates, the GO type icons are a better choice, I really like greying out currently unobtainable moves, and I like the updates section. However, I do have some thoughts:
:*It might be worth adding a note to Smeargle. Not sure how to make it sufficiently concise to fit in that box though.
:*I don't see the point in the list of Pokémon being sortable if it's only sortable by Pokédex number, since the list is already sorted by Pokédex number anyway.
:*I think there's too much width being given to Pokémon sprites. I would suggest setting a width inside the entries themselves, since the columns being merged makes it difficult to control from the header template.
:*Is there any particular reason you chose the double arrow ⇒ over a a single arrow like → for the updates section? It looks off to me.
:*I'm not sold on color-coding the updates section. Damage window changes can't necessarily be classified as a nerf or buff, and adding stat boosts/drops would always be a buff but it's not colored as one. I think just leave everything as the default black.
:*I don't think you need the dates in the updates section as Level 1 bullets with the changes as Level 2. Instead, why not just have the dates unbulletted and the changes as Level 1 bullets? So for Steel Wing for example, you could use this instead
<pre>
; July 30, 2016
* Energy boost: {{color|{{green color}}|4 ⇒ 12}}
; February 16, 2017
* Power: {{color|{{red color}}|15 ⇒ 12}}
* Energy boost: {{color|{{red color}}|12 ⇒ 8}}
* Duration: {{color|{{green color}}|1.33 ⇒ 1.3 seconds}}
* Damage window: {{color|{{green color}}|1.13 - 1.33 ⇒ 0.5 - 0.8 seconds}}
; February 21, 2017
* Power: {{color|{{red color}}|12 ⇒ 11}}
* Energy boost: {{color|{{red color}}|8 ⇒ 6}}
* Duration: {{color|{{green color}}|1.3 ⇒ 0.8 seconds}}</pre>
:*I don't think it's clear enough which updates apply to Gyms & Raids and which apply to Trainer Battles. Most are going to be for the former, since Trainer Battles are fairly new, but I don't expect most readers to have the date Trainer Battles were added memorized. Perhaps you could split the Updates section into two columns, one for each type of battle? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:39, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
::* I'll make some of the changes accordingly to your input. I'm experimenting with making the 2 updates columns, but imo it looks weird, and at best, still really annoying to add the conditional parsers. Another thing we can try is simply adding a header between each group (e.g. for Shadow Claw):
<pre>
;Gyms & Raids
* July 30, 2016
** Power: 16 → 11
** Energy boost: 7 → 8
* February 16, 2017
** Power: 11 → 12
** Energy boost: 8 → 6
** Duration: 0.95 → 1.2 seconds
** Damage window: 0.75 - 0.95 → 0.25 - 0.5 seconds
* February 21, 2017
** Power: 12 → 9
** Duration: 1.2 → 0.7 seconds
 
;Trainer Battles
* February 1, 2019
** Energy boost: 7 → 8</pre>
 
::: As for the color coding, I'll have it removed since it'll make it easier to maintain in the future anyways. But just to note, any increase to damageWindowStart would basically constitute a nerf, since it makes it easier to dodge (however, I'm honestly not currently sure what mechanics damageWindowEnd plays). [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 17:27, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
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