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:::I agree that with ImNotGoodAtPasswords that it's willfully ignorant to pretend like "Legendary and Mythical" is an arbitrary grouping. Pretty much anyone outside of Bulbapedia would agree that this piece of trivia is relevant to the Poison type; but uptight pedants keep editing it out because they've got their panties in a twist over it. I'll keep putting this piece of trivia back in regardless. -[[User:castformrain|castformrain]] ([[User talk:castformrain|talk]]) 12:03, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
:::I agree that with ImNotGoodAtPasswords that it's willfully ignorant to pretend like "Legendary and Mythical" is an arbitrary grouping. Pretty much anyone outside of Bulbapedia would agree that this piece of trivia is relevant to the Poison type; but uptight pedants keep editing it out because they've got their panties in a twist over it. I'll keep putting this piece of trivia back in regardless. -[[User:castformrain|castformrain]] ([[User talk:castformrain|talk]]) 12:03, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
::::That's the thing, they're both separate groups, that's why it says "several other types lack one or the other". Saying that Poison lacks both a Mythical or legendary is basically a combined way of saying "Poison lacks a mythical" (but so does three other types) and "Poison lacks a legendary" (but so does Bug) - as you can see, it becomes a case of not unique = not notable. If they were one big group, then yes, it'd be notable. But they're not, they are two separate groups.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 12:10, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
::::That's the thing, they're both separate groups, that's why it says "several other types lack one or the other". Saying that Poison lacks both a Mythical or legendary is basically a combined way of saying "Poison lacks a mythical" (but so does three other types) and "Poison lacks a legendary" (but so does Bug) - as you can see, it becomes a case of not unique = not notable. If they were one big group, then yes, it'd be notable. But they're not, they are two separate groups.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 12:10, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
== Pokemon table ==
Is there any purpose of dividing Pokemon of the type like that? For me, it was very inconvenient when I was looking for a Pokemon because most of the time you need to find it in the corresponding generation. Also, there is no significant difference if the type is in the first or the second slot. This is why I made an example, how I imagine it:
{| class="expandable"
! Collapse
|-
|
''' Generation I '''
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! width=80px  |  Name
! width=150px colspan=2 | Type(s)
|-
|001
|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}
|{{p|Bulbasaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|002
|{{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}
|{{p|Ivysaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
| 003
|{{MSP|003|Venusaur}}
|{{p|Venusaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|013
|{{MSP|013|Weedle}}
|{{p|Weedle}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|014
|{{MSP|014|Kakuna}}
|{{p|Kakuna}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|015
|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}
|{{p|Beedrill}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|023
|{{MSP|023|Ekans}}
|{{p|Ekans}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|024
|{{MSP|024|Arbok}}
|{{p|Arbok}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|029
|{{MSP|029|Nidoran♀}}
|{{p|Nidoran♀}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|030
|{{MSP|030|Nidorina}}
|{{p|Nidorina}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|031
|{{MSP|031|Nidoqueen}}
|{{p|Nidoqueen}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|032
|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}
|{{p|Nidoran♂}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|033
|{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}
|{{p|Nidorino}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|034
|{{MSP|034|Nidoking}}
|{{p|Nidoking}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|041
|{{MSP|041|Zubat}}
|{{p|Zubat}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|042
|{{MSP|042|Golbat}}
|{{p|Golbat}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|043
|{{MSP|043|Oddish}}
|{{p|Oddish}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|044
|{{MSP|044|Gloom}}
|{{p|Gloom}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|045
|{{MSP|045|Vileplume}}
|{{p|Vileplume}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|048
|{{MSP|048|Venonat}}
|{{p|Venonat}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|049
|{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}
|{{p|Venomoth}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|069
|{{MSP|069|Bellsprout}}
|{{p|Bellsprout}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|070
|{{MSP|070|Weepinbell}}
|{{p|Weepinbell}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|071
|{{MSP|071|Victreebel}}
|{{p|Victreebel}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|072
|{{MSP|072|Tentacool}}
|{{p|Tentacool}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|073
|{{MSP|073|Tentacruel}}
|{{p|Tentacruel}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|088
|{{MSP|088|Grimer}}
|{{p|Grimer}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|089
|{{MSP|089|Muk}}
|{{p|Muk}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|092
|{{MSP|092|Gastly}}
|{{p|Gastly}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|093
|{{MSP|093|Haunter}}
|{{p|Haunter}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|094
|{{MSP|094|Gengar}}
|{{p|Gengar}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|109
|{{MSP|109|Koffing}}
|{{p|Koffing}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|110
|{{MSP|110|Weezing}}
|{{p|Weezing}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|}
|}
''' Generation II '''
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! width=80px  |  Name
! width=150px colspan=2 | Type(s)
|-
|167
|{{MSP|167|Spinarak}}
|{{p|Spinarak}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|168
|{{MSP|168|Ariados}}
|{{p|Ariados}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|169
|{{MSP|169|Crobat}}
|{{p|Crobat}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|211
|{{MSP|211|Qwilfish}}
|{{p|Qwilfish}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|}
|}
''' Generation III '''
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! width=80px  |  Name
! width=150px colspan=2 | Type(s)
|-
|269
|{{MSP|269|Dustox}}
|{{p|Dustox}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|315
|{{MSP|315|Roselia}}
|{{p|Roselia}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|316
|{{MSP|316|Gulpin}}
|{{p|Gulpin}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|317
|{{MSP|317|Swalot}}
|{{p|Swalot}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|336
|{{MSP|336|Seviper}}
|{{p|Seviper}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|}
|}
''' Generation IV '''<br>
[[Arceus]] can be Poison-type as one of its forms.
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! width=80px  |  Name
! width=150px colspan=2 | Type(s)
|-
|406
|{{MSP|406|Budew}}
|{{p|Budew}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|407
|{{MSP|407|Roserade}}
|{{p|Roserade}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|434
|{{MSP|434|Stunky}}
|{{p|Stunky}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|435
|{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}
|{{p|Skuntank}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|451
|{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}
|{{p|Skorupi}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
|-
|452
|{{MSP|452|Drapion}}
|{{p|Drapion}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|453
|{{MSP|453|Croagunk}}
|{{p|Croagunk}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|-
|454
|{{MSP|454|Toxicroak}}
|{{p|Toxicroak}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
|}
|}
''' Generation V '''<br>
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! width=80px  |  Name
! width=150px colspan=2 | Type(s)
|-
|543
|{{MSP|543|Venipede}}
|{{p|Venipede}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|544
|{{MSP|544|Whirlipede}}
|{{p|Whirlipede}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|545
|{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}
|{{p|Scolipede}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|568
|{{MSP|568|Trubbish}}
|{{p|Trubbish}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|569
|{{MSP|569|Garbodor}}
|{{p|Garbodor}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2|[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|590
|{{MSP|590|Foongus}}
|{{p|Foongus}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|591
|{{MSP|591|Amoonguss}}
|{{p|Amoonguss}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|}
|}
''' Generation VI '''<br>
Mega Beedrill exist since {{gameabbrev6|ORAS}}.
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! width=80px  |  Name
! width=150px colspan=2 | Type(s)
|-
|003
|{{MSP|003M|Venusaur}}
|{{p|Venusaur|Mega Venusaur}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|015
|{{MSP|015M|Beedrill}}
|{{p|Beedrill|Mega Beedrill}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|094
|{{MSP|094M|Gengar}}
|{{p|Gengar|Mega Gengar}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|690
|{{MSP|690|Skrelp}}
|{{p|Skrelp}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
|691
|{{MSP|691|Dragalge}}
|{{p|Dragalge}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|}
|}
''' Generation VII '''<br>
Poipole and Naganadel exist since {{gameabbrev7|USUM}}. [[Silvally]] can be Poison-type as one of its forms.
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{poison color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{poison color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{poison color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{poison color light}};"
! #
!
! width=80px  |  Name
! width=150px colspan=2 | Type(s)
|-
|088
|{{MSP|088A|Grimer}}
|{{p|Grimer}}<br><small>[[Regional variant|Alola Form]]</small>
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|089
|{{MSP|089A|Muk}}
|{{p|Muk}}<br><small>[[Regional variant|Alola Form]]</small>
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|747
|{{MSP|747|Mareanie}}
|{{p|Mareanie}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
|748
|{{MSP|748|Toxapex}}
|{{p|Toxapex}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Water}}
|-
|757
|{{MSP|757|Salandit}}
|{{p|Salandit}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|-
|758
|{{MSP|758|Salazzle}}
|{{p|Salazzle}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|-
|793
|{{MSP|793|Nihilego}}
|{{p|Nihilego}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
|-
|803
|{{MSP|803|Poipole}}
|{{p|Poipole}}
| style="text-align:center; background:#{{Poison color}}" colspan=2 |[[Poison (type)|<span style="color:#FFF">Poison</span>]]
|-
|804
|{{MSP|804|Naganadel}}
|{{p|Naganadel}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|}
|}
|}
--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 22:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
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