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→‎Trivium dispute: On second thought, a clarification is probably necessary, since in retrospect my phrasing was incomplete.
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I also didn't have room to write this in my first edit summary, but ''on top of all those problems'', here's an additional one: it's completely arbitrary to group this by evolution family, and it seems like that's just a sneaky way to get around the Pokemon that disqualify the trivium: Litten, Torracat, Pikipek, Trumbeak, Grubbin, Vikavolt, Crabrawler, Rockruff, Fomantis, Bounsweet, Steenee, Type: Null, Jangmo-o, Hakamo-o, Cosmog, and Cosmoem all lack both. That's 16 of the 86 new Pokemon this generation, or nearly a full 20%. I rest my case. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:18, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
I also didn't have room to write this in my first edit summary, but ''on top of all those problems'', here's an additional one: it's completely arbitrary to group this by evolution family, and it seems like that's just a sneaky way to get around the Pokemon that disqualify the trivium: Litten, Torracat, Pikipek, Trumbeak, Grubbin, Vikavolt, Crabrawler, Rockruff, Fomantis, Bounsweet, Steenee, Type: Null, Jangmo-o, Hakamo-o, Cosmog, and Cosmoem all lack both. That's 16 of the 86 new Pokemon this generation, or nearly a full 20%. I rest my case. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:18, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
: It shows that Game Freak has attempted to give something unique to every evolution family, so that (at least hypothetically) they all have a battling niche. Then not including NFEs makes sense because in battle, one generally considers fully evolved 'mons only. A counterpart would be like saying "'this evolution family has a unique type combination' is invalid trivia because more than one Pokemon has that type combination so it's not unique anymore". [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 19:50, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
: It shows that Game Freak has attempted to give something unique to every evolution family, so that (at least hypothetically) they all have a battling niche. Then not including NFEs makes sense because in battle, one generally considers fully evolved 'mons only. A counterpart would be like saying "'this evolution family has a unique type combination' is invalid trivia because more than one Pokemon has that type combination so it's not unique anymore". [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 19:50, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
::We absolutely don't write that an evolution family has a unique type combination. We only write about a unique type combination on the pages of the individual members that do have one. Look at, for example, {{p|Diggersby}} versus {{p|Bunnelby}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:57, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
::We absolutely don't write that an evolution family has a unique type combination ''[later edit to clarify: if they don't all have one]''. We only write about a unique type combination on the pages of the individual members that do have one. Look at, for example, {{p|Diggersby}} versus {{p|Bunnelby}}. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:57, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Uh, I see that a lot in trivia, actually. There's Aegislash, Jynx, Sawsbuck, and I forgot what else. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 20:00, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Uh, I see that a lot in trivia, actually. There's Aegislash, Jynx, Sawsbuck, and I forgot what else. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 20:00, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
::::Yeah, if the whole evolution family has the same unique type combination we mention it. But if some do and some don't (like this signature move/Ability thing), we only list the ones that do, not the ones that don't. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:18, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
::::Yeah, if the whole evolution family has the same unique type combination we mention it. But if some do and some don't (like this signature move/Ability thing), we only list the ones that do, not the ones that don't. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:18, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
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