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::::::[https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/799322666079551488 This] seems to be the origin of "sublegendary". To me, it looks like the dataminers just invented a name for to group of Legendary Pokémon that are not [[Special Pokémon]], which are flagged as such by the game; I see no evidence that the name comes from the games themselves. However, it does indicate that the game considers Ultra Beasts and the tapu to be in the same category as non-Special Legendary Pokémon (at least for tournament restriction purposes, and presumably is the same set of flags used by the GTS filter). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:43, 8 December 2016 (UTC) | ::::::[https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/799322666079551488 This] seems to be the origin of "sublegendary". To me, it looks like the dataminers just invented a name for to group of Legendary Pokémon that are not [[Special Pokémon]], which are flagged as such by the game; I see no evidence that the name comes from the games themselves. However, it does indicate that the game considers Ultra Beasts and the tapu to be in the same category as non-Special Legendary Pokémon (at least for tournament restriction purposes, and presumably is the same set of flags used by the GTS filter). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:43, 8 December 2016 (UTC) | ||
::::::Also, it looks like "sub-legendary" is an older fan term that either refers to non-Special Legendary Pokémon ([http://generalgibby.deviantart.com/journal/] [http://donzatch.deviantart.com/art/Tale-of-Twilight-Page-019-427218465] [http://kotaku.com/oh-and-as-for-you-saying-that-you-dont-know-where-im-471382878] [http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/06/seven_new_pokemon_revealed_for_pokemon_sun_and_moon#comment3559641] [http://comments.deviantart.com/1/633152405/4218724561] [http://comments.deviantart.com/1/632938248/4219747103] [http://matlaluhuitl.proboards.com/thread/16] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/918915-pokemon-firered-version/44542571?page=1]), or to [[pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] ([http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php/277717-COW-319-Pokemon-re-design-WIPs-Thread/page12] [http://pokemonpictures123.wikifoundry.com/page/Fun+Facts] [http://www.bukisa.com/articles/438926_the-strongest-non-legendary-pokemon]). I hadn't heard it before, so I don't think it's a particularly common term. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:21, 8 December 2016 (UTC) | ::::::Also, it looks like "sub-legendary" is an older fan term that either refers to non-Special Legendary Pokémon ([http://generalgibby.deviantart.com/journal/] [http://donzatch.deviantart.com/art/Tale-of-Twilight-Page-019-427218465] [http://kotaku.com/oh-and-as-for-you-saying-that-you-dont-know-where-im-471382878] [http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/06/seven_new_pokemon_revealed_for_pokemon_sun_and_moon#comment3559641] [http://comments.deviantart.com/1/633152405/4218724561] [http://comments.deviantart.com/1/632938248/4219747103] [http://matlaluhuitl.proboards.com/thread/16] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/918915-pokemon-firered-version/44542571?page=1]), or to [[pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] ([http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php/277717-COW-319-Pokemon-re-design-WIPs-Thread/page12] [http://pokemonpictures123.wikifoundry.com/page/Fun+Facts] [http://www.bukisa.com/articles/438926_the-strongest-non-legendary-pokemon]). I hadn't heard it before, so I don't think it's a particularly common term. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:21, 8 December 2016 (UTC) | ||
I know I'm kinda late to the topic but if cosmog along with iy entire lines are UB and they are considered legendary wouldn't that make the other UBs legendary? {{unsigned|Badwolf1234}} | I know I'm kinda late to the topic but if cosmog along with iy entire lines are UB and they are considered legendary wouldn't that make the other UBs legendary? {{unsigned|Badwolf1234}} | ||
:Cosmog and its evolutions are not confirmed to be UBs; while the Aether Foundation suspects Cosmog is an Ultra Beast, there is no other evidence that the Cosmog line are Ultra Beasts, and Cosmog's evolutions do not have an increased catch rate in a Beast Ball. Likewise, even if they are Ultra Beasts, there's no reason there cannot be some Legendary and some non-Legendary Ultra Beasts, like how there are some Legendary and some non-Legendary Fire-type Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:51, 8 January 2017 (UTC) | :Cosmog and its evolutions are not confirmed to be UBs; while the Aether Foundation suspects Cosmog is an Ultra Beast, there is no other evidence that the Cosmog line are Ultra Beasts, and Cosmog's evolutions do not have an increased catch rate in a Beast Ball. Likewise, even if they are Ultra Beasts, there's no reason there cannot be some Legendary and some non-Legendary Ultra Beasts, like how there are some Legendary and some non-Legendary Fire-type Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:51, 8 January 2017 (UTC) | ||
:::::::Apparently the dataminer claims they didn't make up the term, but the term itself is in the code: [https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/925559429474369536] --[[User:Lighthouse|Lighthouse]] ([[User talk:Lighthouse|talk]]) 03:59, 4 November 2017 (UTC) | |||
==Cosmog, UB or no?== | ==Cosmog, UB or no?== | ||