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:::I'm not familiar with these specific CCs, but in case you don't know anything about {{wp|closed captioning}} at all, the Wikipedia article can give you a good rundown that answers your question. It explains, for instance, that CCs often include descriptions of some on-screen action in addition to transcribing the audio portion. It doesn't surprise me at all that the Pokemon CCs apparently include move names while describing the on-screen action. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:00, 7 October 2017 (UTC) | :::I'm not familiar with these specific CCs, but in case you don't know anything about {{wp|closed captioning}} at all, the Wikipedia article can give you a good rundown that answers your question. It explains, for instance, that CCs often include descriptions of some on-screen action in addition to transcribing the audio portion. It doesn't surprise me at all that the Pokemon CCs apparently include move names while describing the on-screen action. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:00, 7 October 2017 (UTC) | ||
::::Correct, most Pokémon cries are described in the CCs as "TURTONATOR: [PAINED]" or "TURTONATOR: [SHELL SMASH MOVE]", etc. It's likely directly from the VA's scripts. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:10, 7 October 2017 (UTC) | ::::Correct, most Pokémon cries are described in the CCs as "TURTONATOR: [PAINED]" or "TURTONATOR: [SHELL SMASH MOVE]", etc. It's likely directly from the VA's scripts. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:10, 7 October 2017 (UTC) | ||
:::::I'm left feeling very dubious about these. Basically this is the dub naming moves that otherwise weren't named- we don't count it when the dub mentions a Pokemon's gender, so why this? You may know that I've often argued the topic of contention that is "assuming" Pokémon move names and I kinda feel like the writers of these closed captions are just assuming the move. Stuff like the Totem Raticate's Tail Whip (confirmed by Cc) when it just whacked the opponent with its tail- functionally different to Tail Whip and something we'd have all left as just the a whack with the tail and not a move. Then there is Ash's Litten with its Fury Swipes, erroneous Slash and Scratch attacks. I mean, come on- does anyone really believe these were all meant to be different moves? When the anime since AG has been very consistent with giving Pokemon static movesets. I can hardly explain how unbelievable it is that the writers would have intended Litten to have used all three moves. We have only ever known Ash to call out Scratch specifically, out I'm 100% certain it is the only one Ash will ever call because it's the only one Litten actually knows. Marowak is a simalur example- Iron Head and Headbutt? No way, I will guarantee you that Kiawe will never call Iron Head. I know I am usually on the other side of the move assuming argument but I really think this should be considered. I am certain that these closed captions are guilty of the same assuming that has been forbidden otherwise. Sometimes it's obvious, like Raticate's Hyper Beam and Marowak's Shadow Bone and the closed captions are right. I dont trust them, and if we can't use gender confirmation from the dub, I is wrong that we do this. | |||
I don't expect anybody to give a monkeys about my opinion, this has been made very clear in the past few years but I feel that I may be proved right in the near future, the next time Maorwak gets some focus- I don't believe it used Flate Blitz, I still think it's Flame Wheel- when Kiawe actually calls the move Flame Wheel, we'll see Marowak preform the same move which these closed caption called Flare Blitz. When this happens, and I'm certain it will, I hope it'll make you consider the points I've just made. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 21:56, 7 October 2017 (UTC) | |||