Talk:Turtonator (Pokémon): Difference between revisions

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:Golduck's origin notes the kappa because its Pokedex entries explicitly compare it to a kappa. Lombre's dish on its head collects water in the same way as a kappa's head, and it also has the kappa's beak.
:Golduck's origin notes the kappa because its Pokedex entries explicitly compare it to a kappa. Lombre's dish on its head collects water in the same way as a kappa's head, and it also has the kappa's beak.
:Turtonator, meanwhile, doesn't have the characteristic depression, doesn't have the beak, doesn't seem to live in watery areas or be amphibious in any way, and doesn't seem to have any behavioral similarities to kappas. The only connection I can see between Turtonator and kappas is that they're both bipedal and have turtle shells. I don't think we should be putting "kappa" in the origin of every bipedal turtle-like Pokemon; I think we've got to keep to a bit stricter standard about it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:03, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:Turtonator, meanwhile, doesn't have the characteristic depression, doesn't have the beak, doesn't seem to live in watery areas or be amphibious in any way, and doesn't seem to have any behavioral similarities to kappas. The only connection I can see between Turtonator and kappas is that they're both bipedal and have turtle shells. I don't think we should be putting "kappa" in the origin of every bipedal turtle-like Pokemon; I think we've got to keep to a bit stricter standard about it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:03, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:Yes... but at the same time your definition is overly strict. It has a dish on it's head, it has a beak, and this isn't even the only series to have fire kappas. Magic: The Gathering did that a long time ago, back during the Kamigawa block. Call that irrelevant, but Pokemon has hippopotamuses and crocodiles that live in sand. There's no real reason for it to have a dish on it's head besides "this makes it look a bit more like a kappa". As for behavorial similarities, we have no idea as to what it's behavior is even like. I can understand where you're coming from: you don't want everything to be compared to a kappa. But I really feel like that Turtonator has too many similarities to a kappa, even if only in appearance, for us to just ignore it out of hand. To me it looks a lot more like a kappa or another turtle then it does the mata mata.
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