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:I know it's just an assumption, but doesn't it APPEAR to be true? Giratina's association with Girasol and thus a pearl. I mean, I don't see anything related to Jade around. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).</small> | :I know it's just an assumption, but doesn't it APPEAR to be true? Giratina's association with Girasol and thus a pearl. I mean, I don't see anything related to Jade around. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).</small> | ||
::Well, you never know. It may be a valid assumption, and it may end up true, but we can't risk putting something that's not a concrete fact here. Heck, I think the third could very well be Ivory, as that's an organic stubstance that's considered to be a precious thing, much like pearls are. As for the diamonds, they're grouped with rubies, sapphires, and emeralds as the precious gemstones. Plus, if it were Ivory, it would relate to {{p|Arseus}} in its color, and not to mention, that Dialga and Palkia are said to be two halves of it. Nintendo is, as always, trying to screw with us. From all of the GS references in FRLG and DP, many think there'll be a remake of the second gen. But as long as it's unknown, there's no place for it on an encyclopedia of Pokémon. The same goes for the timeline relation between RBYGSC and RSEDP. Many THEORIZE that the three-year gap came into play once again, but there's very little concrete facts until we get an official English translation. The only thing we know for sure is that Nintendo's doing a third version. They've done it the past three generations, first time they didn't was FRLG, because some might expect an OceanBlue, and others might expect ThunderYellow. Or at least, that's my theory. I see where yours comes from, and I do think that it could possibly be Opal. But then, we'd risk an edit war over the most trivial unannounced information: What the name of the third version of DP will be. And then... everyone will just throw in random things they thought of on a whim. | ::Well, you never know. It may be a valid assumption, and it may end up true, but we can't risk putting something that's not a concrete fact here. Heck, I think the third could very well be Ivory, as that's an organic stubstance that's considered to be a precious thing, much like pearls are. As for the diamonds, they're grouped with rubies, sapphires, and emeralds as the precious gemstones. Plus, if it were Ivory, it would relate to {{p|Arseus}} in its color, and not to mention, that Dialga and Palkia are said to be two halves of it. Nintendo is, as always, trying to screw with us. From all of the GS references in FRLG and DP, many think there'll be a remake of the second gen. But as long as it's unknown, there's no place for it on an encyclopedia of Pokémon. The same goes for the timeline relation between RBYGSC and RSEDP. Many THEORIZE that the three-year gap came into play once again, but there's very little concrete facts until we get an official English translation. The only thing we know for sure is that Nintendo's doing a third version. They've done it the past three generations, first time they didn't was FRLG, because some might expect an OceanBlue, and others might expect ThunderYellow. Or at least, that's my theory. I see where yours comes from, and I do think that it could possibly be Opal. But then, we'd risk an edit war over the most trivial unannounced information: What the name of the third version of DP will be. And then... everyone will just throw in random things they thought of on a whim. | ||
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:Bravo my good sir. I was never saying that it SHOULD be added right away, merely speculation on the matter. Besides, you've done quite well in explaining yourself, and I can't help but admire you for all you have to say. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).</small> | :Bravo my good sir. I was never saying that it SHOULD be added right away, merely speculation on the matter. Besides, you've done quite well in explaining yourself, and I can't help but admire you for all you have to say. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Clark Griswald|Clark Griswald]] ([[User talk:Clark Griswald|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Clark Griswald|contribs]]).</small> | ||
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:Your list and thinking that Pikachu is an odd choice to complement the first two versions is kinda wrong. Yellow is not the third version of Generation 1, it was a fourth, anime-based iteration. The original two versions and the third version all feature the fully evolved forms of the starters. Yellow then has Pikachu because that its version's starter (and, as I said, it's based on the anime). Just because the non-Japanese versions didn't have 4 doesn't mean that's how they were created. [[Green (Special)|Green]] as a character shouldn't even exist in the manga if you discount the original Japanese versions, and there's a reason the remakes of the original two are Fire Red and Leaf Green, not a Blue. As for the third version of Generation 4 being Opal (and thus Berlitz's given name)... I kinda doubt it. That name is extremely similar to Pearl in Japanese, the only difference being an "o" at the beginning. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 00:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | :Your list and thinking that Pikachu is an odd choice to complement the first two versions is kinda wrong. Yellow is not the third version of Generation 1, it was a fourth, anime-based iteration. The original two versions and the third version all feature the fully evolved forms of the starters. Yellow then has Pikachu because that its version's starter (and, as I said, it's based on the anime). Just because the non-Japanese versions didn't have 4 doesn't mean that's how they were created. [[Green (Special)|Green]] as a character shouldn't even exist in the manga if you discount the original Japanese versions, and there's a reason the remakes of the original two are Fire Red and Leaf Green, not a Blue. As for the third version of Generation 4 being Opal (and thus Berlitz's given name)... I kinda doubt it. That name is extremely similar to Pearl in Japanese, the only difference being an "o" at the beginning. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 00:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Though I suppose if they did go with Opal, they could make jokes like Berlitz being an honourable version of Pearl. lol [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 01:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | :Though I suppose if they did go with Opal, they could make jokes like Berlitz being an honourable version of Pearl. lol [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 01:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
::Note also that Ho-oh is related to the more gold-coloured Brass Tower, and Lugia to the Tin Tower. Just because Ho-oh is called to the Tin Tower by the Rainbow Wing doesn't make it Ho-oh's domain. Originally Lugia sat atop Tin, and Ho-oh atop Brass. There were two real towers on either side of a lake in Kyoto as well - and the Gold-leaved tower burnt down, like the Brass Tower. It also had a statue of the Houou bird atop it. The reason the anime get confused about two Tin Towers is because Ho-oh originally atop Brass Tower, and then moved to the Tin Tower ONLY when it was summoned there by the Rainbow Wing held by the GSC player. The Legendary Beasts were ultimately tied to the fate of the Twin Towers and the Silver and Gold Birds who sat upon those respective towers. Suicune happens to be the beast that is the most connected with purification, like Celebi, who was also the focus of Crystal (at least in the Japanese version), so it gets the place on the box. | |||
::That being said, I highly believe that Giratina will be the fourth version and Opal Berlitz be the full name of the new Special protagonist. However, that a non-Sinnoh-dex Pokémon will be the star of the version seems quite strange. But Giratina is most likely the version mascot. Cresselia and Amethyst fit as well with Dialga and Palkia, and regardless, it's still a non-Sinnoh-dex Pokémon. Arceus... I just can't see an event Pokémon as the mascot, because then the event would have to be built into the game, making the event in Diamond and Pearl lose meaning because you can just trade Arceus to your Diamond or Pearl versions after getting to that point in the third game. Plus, if the movies are any indication, Girantina will be fighting a huge war of gods in the 11th Movie, against Dialga and Palkia (and perhaps Regigigas as well), which seems to indicate his connection with the other two Dimensional Dragon Gods of Sinnoh. I just wonder how his story will be elaborated on. But I digress. As long as Giratina is the mascot of the third game, it will get a name like Opal or Girasol, and thus Berlitz will be Opal Berlitz. I doubt the use of Girasol Version, because it sounds ridiculous, and no kid will know what a Girasol is unless they are like my kid brother who's intensely into rocks and minerals. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Phil]] 01:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC) | |||