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::I believe indeed that the fifth move would be a Z-Move.  This, however, needs playing to confirm, or some kind of gameplay to show a Z-Move being used while retaining the other four moves.  It appears that the main four moves remain as the four normally useable moves from what we have so far seen.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:31, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
::I believe indeed that the fifth move would be a Z-Move.  This, however, needs playing to confirm, or some kind of gameplay to show a Z-Move being used while retaining the other four moves.  It appears that the main four moves remain as the four normally useable moves from what we have so far seen.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:31, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
:::Video footage from when "Hyper-Sprintangriff" was revealed show {{de|Datei:SM_Kampfbildschirm.png|four moves available first}}, then {{de|Datei:SM_Auswahl_Z-Attacke.png|the Z-Move}} after pressing the "Z-Kraft" (Z-Power) button (see footage in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsK-dgxbGzs here], for example{{tt|*|and don't listen to what they say}}). Note that this is in a [[Battle Royal]]. Also, {{m|Pulverizing Pancake}} is [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pulverizing-snorlax/ known] to "transform" Snorlax's Giga Impact. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:27, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
:::Video footage from when "Hyper-Sprintangriff" was revealed show {{de|Datei:SM_Kampfbildschirm.png|four moves available first}}, then {{de|Datei:SM_Auswahl_Z-Attacke.png|the Z-Move}} after pressing the "Z-Kraft" (Z-Power) button (see footage in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsK-dgxbGzs here], for example{{tt|*|and don't listen to what they say}}). Note that this is in a [[Battle Royal]]. Also, {{m|Pulverizing Pancake}} is [http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pulverizing-snorlax/ known] to "transform" Snorlax's Giga Impact. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:27, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
::::Pause at the time [https://youtu.be/fL6QuYi3rpo?t=1m41s in this link to an english trailer] to see that Z-moves appear as a Z-Power button on the other side of the menu to use a move. The Pokémon this is for is Litten (the opposing Pokémon is under the moves), and it knows Growl, Lick, Leer and Fire Fang, and is selecting Z-Power to use the Z-move Inferno Overdrive. Since all we know about Z-Moves is that the Pokémon must know a move of the same type as the type that works with the Z-Crystal, that the description of the Z-Crystals state that they convert Z-Power into crystals that cause moves of a given type to be upgraded into Z-Moves of that type (the description uses Z-Moves, not Z-Move or the name of a Z-Move) and that some Z-Crystals only work for a specific Pokémon while allowing a special Z-Move, and the footage cuts straight to the Z-Move being charged, it is even possible that after selecting Z-Power it is necessary to select a move as well, which would (if Z-Moves have varied attributes or change to different Z-Moves depending on the move upgraded into a Z-Move) allow the player to chose which one to upgrade if the Pokémon knows multiple moves of that type, and prevent players from simply using a Z-move on wild Pokémon to knock them out without using any PP of any move. While the footage in general shows how this is probably a rumour that Pokémon will be able to learn 5 moves, and how such a rumour could have started if seen with no context in a foreign language (This trailer is new to the English language, but had a Japanese version a while ago). If my guess/theory is true, even holding a Z-Crystal would not add a fifth move, only upgrade an existing one when activated. [[User:PartHunter|PartHunter]] ([[User talk:PartHunter|talk]]) 03:51, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
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