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Legendary Pokémon
::Please cite any evidence, literally any evidence whatsoever, for your claim that "all are non-unique except" those four. There are a handful that we know are definitely unique or definitely non-unique, but my point (which you don't seem to understand) is that '''we have no evidence for either claim for most Legendaries''' — we cannot prove they are non-unique, nor can we claim they are unique. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:35, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
:::I'll try to ask a quick/simple question... ShinyRelicanth, are you saying that you believe Arceus is totally unique in the games? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:41, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 
@Pumkinking0192
I understand what you're trying to tell me. But I'm arguing that there IS evidence to suggest that most legendaries are not unique in the games. And my original comment IS my evidence (I even cited where the pronouns thing came from). And I explained why non-unique pronouns, IVs/Shinyness, and being found in multiple regions could be used as evidence. And I asked you why we should just assume legendaires are unique until proven otherwise. I have yet to get an answer on that.
 
And the reason as to why those four in particular are unique...well, I have already explained this in my reply to Super goku. And I should have explained it better. My evidence was drawn from two sources: the Sinjoh event and the Arceus page. Sinjoh event shows that Arceus can create the Creation Trio at will. The Arceus page claims that it does so in order to protect the dimensions when a trainer has captured one of them. So when I said "unique", I should've explained that they were only unique in the wild. Mulitples can exist, but only under the ownership of trainers. They're the guardians of the dimensions, so how could there be more than one in the wild? I'm short, a trainer captures let's say, Dialga. Arceus creates a newborn Dialga to take its place so the universe remains in tact. However, there are now TWO Dialga in existence; one in the wild and one in the ownership of a trainer.
 
I would also like to point out that the anime is based on the games. While they are separate canons, why would a basic fact about legendaires (how many there are of each) change between canons? And additionally, is there even any evidence that something like that would/has changed? If they're not unique in the anime, why would the games be any different? Especially when the anime and games are part of the same franchise made by the same general group of people? Either way, I have posted my arguments for game-exclusive evidence already.
 
@Tiddlywinks
I believe it is probably unique in both canons. But I also believe (and this is just speculation) that if it is caught, it can recreate itself. This is due to the fact that Arceus came from an egg. And the Sinjoh ruins even shows that it can recreate the creation trio if they are captured. But how does it do this? It creates eggs. So I think that it can re-create itself if caught. So in the wild it is unique. But multiples can exist under the ownership of trainers (just like the creation trio). Like I said, this is PURE THEORIZING and should not be used as evidence. I believe that we should Arceus and the CT as unique in the article for the sake of simplicity. But as I said with on my reply to PumpkinKing, I could accept that it isn't unique as well. I just currently do not think so.
 
[[User:Shiny Relicanth|Shiny Relicanth]] ([[User talk:Shiny Relicanth|talk]]) 05:27, 11 July 2016 (UTC)Shiny Relicanth
 
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