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::I feel like that broad definition of "unobtainable" makes the list completely useless, though. I think we should do what you just said about notation. Then the list would function both ways. All a user would have to do is consult the notes to know whether its shiny-locked or completely unobtainable. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 22:23, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
::I feel like that broad definition of "unobtainable" makes the list completely useless, though. I think we should do what you just said about notation. Then the list would function both ways. All a user would have to do is consult the notes to know whether its shiny-locked or completely unobtainable. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 22:23, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
:::I don't see why that makes the list useless. Knowing whether something can ever be Shiny is the kind of thing that is useful on a page about Shiny Pokémon; knowing if a Pokémon can be Shiny when obtained in a particular way is typically more useful to include on the page about obtaining it that way, but this page does also mention Shiny locked Pokémon by generation. Trying to make the list also mention which Pokémon are Shiny-locked in-game as well is just going to make it confusing (esp. once you start considering Colo/XD), whereas Shiny locking for particular kinds of encounters are very common in Gen VI so it makes more sense to just specify those. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:15, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:::I don't see why that makes the list useless. Knowing whether something can ever be Shiny is the kind of thing that is useful on a page about Shiny Pokémon; knowing if a Pokémon can be Shiny when obtained in a particular way is typically more useful to include on the page about obtaining it that way, but this page does also mention Shiny locked Pokémon by generation. Trying to make the list also mention which Pokémon are Shiny-locked in-game as well is just going to make it confusing (esp. once you start considering Colo/XD), whereas Shiny locking for particular kinds of encounters are very common in Gen VI so it makes more sense to just specify those. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:15, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
== Hidden Power of Shiny Pokémons in Gen. II ==
OK, so I'm a bit confused: the Trivia section states that the power of Shiny Pokémons in Gen. II is either 50 or 70. However applying shiny DVs to the calculation formula of hidden power yields 31(base) + 20 or 0(for Attack) + 10(for Block > 7) + 5(for Speed > 7) + 3(for Special: floor((5 * floor(10 / 8) + 10 mod 4) / 2) = 3) = 49 or 69 . Did I make any mistakes during the calculation? --[[User:Rabby250|Rabby250]] ([[User talk:Rabby250|talk]]) 06:06, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
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