Difference between revisions of "User talk:DarienLeonhart"

::It's not about being told to calm down, it's about saying things in a civil manner. I mentioned bolding due to the previous incident (since this isn't the first time you've had trouble for talk page related incidents). Yes, you have every right to voice your opinion, but do so in a polite and civil manner. Saying "If I don't do it, then no one does" implies that you are only making it about yourself. We are not going to cater the site ''just'' for you. And saying that "I do not care if he/she is a bureaucrat" implies that you don't care about the policy and that you are willing to not follow the staff's order. Again, it's about the tone in your comments. Saying "If I don't do it, then no one else does" makes the look like you're just making it about you and you want the site to cater for you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:15, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:::Well, let's see... I'm not using foul language, insults, threats, or ultimatums. Bold was not used... All caps was used on one word. How people perceive what I wrote is not my problem. So that said, I was speaking in a civil manner and I still am. If you'd like, I can show you uncivilized and start using insults, threats, and curse words directed at you and everyone else on Bulbapedia, but that's not who I am so I won't even go there. The bolding issue is done and over... bringing it up again suggests you think it's not done especially since in this instance, bolding of words was not used. Now you're putting words in my mouth. Never once did I say "If I don't do it, then no one does." And I never asked for the site to be catered to me. I offered a suggestion and every one starts freaking out about it like its the end of the world. Saying things that I'm being aggressive when I'm clearly not and so on. I can't control how people perceive what I write and I don't care really either. What they perceive is not my concern. You're right, I did say I don't care what a person is in Bulbapedia staff. I still am entitled to respect and telling me to calm down when I did nothing against policy is disrespectful. I would tell the president of the United States the same thing. I never said I don't care about the policy. Everything I have done is not in violation of the policy. If I were told to respect others and not use insults or threats, then sure, I would respect that request, but telling me to calm down is entirely something else. Saying "obey that order" makes it sound like Bulbapedia is a dictatorship. I will never respond to an order, but a request is another thing. Requests are polite and respectful. Orders are ultimatums and disrespectful and I won't obey orders. I will respect requests. That said, I have done nothing to violate policy. If you don't like my behavior, then ignore it and move one. No one is asking you to respond. You are making the decision to respond of your own free will. And when someone is disrespectful towards me, I will not be silent about it. Telling me to calm down is disrespectful especially when I have done nothing to violate policy. So unless you got something to say about something other than my behavior and attitude, I don't want to hear it.<br>[[User:DarienLeonhart|DarienLeonhart]] ([[User talk:DarienLeonhart|talk]]) 04:51, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::::Yes, you weren't throwing around insult and foul language, but one can still sound aggressive without using them. I only pointed out the bolding because this ''isn't the first time you've had talk page related problems''.
::::"Besides, do you think every person reading/visiting Bulbapedia reads the top? I don't.", that is what I mean. Just because ''you'' don't carefully read the whole article, doesn't mean no one does. That line makes it sound like you are making this about you.
::::Freaking out about being told to calm down is called being aggressive. He told you to calm down because you were aggressive about not knowing that there was a timezone message on the page and saying that we are lying to people.
::::So you would be glad to break the law? Because that is what you are clearly saying. You did respect the policy, yes, but you were uncivil about it.
::::"Order" was probably the wrong word to use. Spriteit requested that you calm down, but you went and reacted aggressively.
::::Again, if we feel that someone is out of line, we will tell them about it and ask them to tone it down. We not going to simply ignore when someone is being uncivil. You are not in trouble, you are just being told to calm down. There was a better way to open a discussion that "So it's okay to lie to people!". That's all.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 07:35, 14 August 2015 (UTC)