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Shouldn't the article explain the official name [[Base stats|and the confusion it causes]]? It is already mentioned, sure, but the article doesn't explore the subject beyond that. The Japanese name isn't as troublesome as the English name but it still didn't catch on among Japanese fans. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 20:54, 28 May 2015 (UTC) | Shouldn't the article explain the official name [[Base stats|and the confusion it causes]]? It is already mentioned, sure, but the article doesn't explore the subject beyond that. The Japanese name isn't as troublesome as the English name but it still didn't catch on among Japanese fans. [[User:SatoMew2|SatoMew2]] ([[User talk:SatoMew2|talk]]) 20:54, 28 May 2015 (UTC) | ||
== Official usage of "base stats" == | |||
For a while, it's almost seemed to me like perhaps the official usage of "base stats" to apparently refer to "effort values" is actually heavily and more or less intentionally conflating what we generally know as effort values and base stats; in other words, basically they don't really care to make a strong distinction between them. It often seems to me like the official view is that a Pokemon has "base stats" that it starts with (what we generally know as base stats) and then by battling other Pokemon, you can "increase" those "base stats" (when we would say you gain effort values). | |||
This quote from [http://www.pokemon.com/us/strategy/training-battle-ready-pokemon/ a recent article] seems to me to demonstrate that view fairly clearly. | |||
:"''The only factor that determines which base stats grow and by how much is the species of Pokémon you battled—its level and '''base stats''' don’t matter.''" | |||
To me, that latter usage of "base stats" can only refer to what we usually know as base stats, and not to effort values, if only because wild Pokemon have 0 effort values. | |||
Occasionally (including in that article), they will also use the term "base stat points", which seems to more explicitly describe what we generally call "effort values". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:53, 18 June 2015 (UTC) | |||