→Move to Liza and Tate: Okay.
:: I am speaking on anime based, manga based evidence, with a little bit of the conceptual art. In terms of the anime (see below discussion), Liza announces that she is older. Although they debut in the same chapter of the manga and are introduced at the same time, Juan introduces Tate first. However, with the artwork in the anime and games, Liza seems to be taller. Also, with their parents in the anime, Jin (on one hand) was expecting Tate to arrive first. However, Liza is the first to point out Tate's childish actions. I think that this is also more of an alphabetical debate. I say that it should be moved to Liza and Tate, with the "evidence" (for lack of a better word) that I have presented. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 22:16, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
:Birth order/alphabetical order/etc. doesn't matter. What matters is what the common term is for the pair as a whole. Seeing as both "Tate and Liza" and "Liza and Tate" have seen usage, I feel a move isn't necessary... though it is worth noting that "Liza and Tate" fits better with the pair's name origin. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 05:01, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
== Hair color change? ==