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 :::That's a categorization issue rather than saying that Mythical Pokémon are Legendary Pokémon (prose should be given precedence over sitemaps). We already have evidence that demonstrates they are separate categories. Most notably, [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/more-legendary-pokemon-appearing-in-mirage-spots this page] makes it clear that Mythical Pokémon are not Legendary Pokémon with the statement "''With Pokémon X, Pokémon Y, Pokémon Omega Ruby, and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, every Legendary Pokémon discovered to date can be obtained!''" Additionally, [https://www.nintendo.co.za/Games/Nintendo-3DS/Super-Pokemon-Rumble-274930.html there] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/more-online-competitions-are-on-the-way/ are] [http://www.pokemonconquest.com/en-au/outline/densetsu official] [http://www.pokemonrumble.com/RumbleU/en_AU/game/game_05.html sources] that specify "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon", meaning that Mythical Pokémon are not Legendary Pokémon.
 :::While this is a discussion about the English term, in Japanese material the term 「伝説・幻のポケモン」 ''Legendary • Mythical Pokémon'' is quite common. Additionally, on the [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/oras/pokemon/ ORAS Pokémon page], despite there being a "Legendary Pokémon" category, the Mythical Pokémon Deoxys is categorized under 「その他」 ''other''. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:35, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
+::::It's not a massive piece of evidence towards it, though I should point out that Smash 3DS and Wii U were the most recent games to refer to the group as "Mythical and Legendary" Pokémon in the Tips, as well as the PAL description of the Master Ball. The PAL trophies for Mew, Keldeo and Shaymin also refer to the three of them as Mythical. The US version calls them Legendary, though it seems to not refer to Mythical Pokémon in general and also says "Onyx", so... - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 04:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
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 ::::::The tab right above it says "[http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/change-two-mythical-pokemon Change Two Mythical Pokémon!]", so it certainly doesn't rule it out from being Mythical. I don't think we have confirmation that it is no longer Mythical though, so I would suggest continuing to label it as we know it at least used to be. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:55, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 :::::::The "change two mythical Pokémon" section is about Keldeo's Resolute Forme and Shaymin's Sky Forme. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 00:18, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
+::::::::The point is that the section about Keldeo and Shaymin is listed under the Legendary Pokémon section, meaning it's impossible to conclude that Deoxys is Legendary from where its section is placed on the site.
+::::::::Personally, I'm of the opinion that because of its placement on the Japanese ORAS site away from all the other Legendaries, it should be left as Mythical until we get some sort of evidence one way or the other for it. I highly doubt that we won't get more distributions for it in the future that will clarify this.- [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 04:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)