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Talk:Chespin (Pokémon)

1,166 bytes added, 08:55, 19 July 2014
Incorrect, birds are under Archosauria, the same group as crocodiles, and theropoda, a subgroup of dinosaurs. Birds are reptiles. This information is relatively new and not widespread but I assure you ti is fact. It is true, however, that they do not follow the typical (antiquated) dictionary definition, and are only reptiles from a scientific standpoint. The entire reptile family had become so widespread that it is no longer specific, crocodiles aren't much closer to snakes than we are. In fact, the common dictionary definition of reptile directly conflicts with the dictionary definition of dinosaur, the entire group was named before we knew much about it. All of the new definitions are being rewritten because the group is so big you cannot include turtles, lizards, crocodiles, dinosaurs, and many of the other animals we consider reptiles as birds. ([[User:Jetison|Jetison]] ([[User talk:Jetison|talk]]) 20:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)).
::This discussion is long since over. Discussions with no replies are typically closed after six months, and the last reply on this one was nearly a year ago. That aside, this is a moot point now as we have been specifically given Chespin's origin. All of that aside, Archosauria still separates birds and crocodilians into distinct clades. It's still perfectly reasonably to consider them separately, particularly when scientific nomentclature is a constantly changing and adapting way of classification. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 05:03, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
My apologies for the necro. Not-so-recent studies have already proven birds lack any distinguishing or exclusive qualities to become entirely separate from reptiles (That is if one defines a dinosaur as a reptile), merely a lack of particular qualities. My point was never about Chespin's origin but the inaccurate information I saw. And yes the nomenclature is always changing, this is why the idea that birds are in any way separate from reptilia and the phylogenically-off term "reptiles" is outdated. They have far too much in common with later theropods to be considered a whole entire group on their own. The titles of bird and reptile date back to before we knew much about either creature at all, way back when frogs were considered reptiles because of their appearance. The term reptile is now starting to be equated to the scientific term reptilia for sake of convenience, as the original term was based on appearance and not science. If reptile=reptilia then birds are reptiles. If one actually considers then separate then they take a huge chunk of theropoda with them. ([[User:Jetison|Jetison]] ([[User talk:Jetison|talk]]) 08:55, 19 July 2014 (UTC)).
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