Talk:Weaponry in the Pokémon world: Difference between revisions

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:Well given the concept art and the blurb from Sugimori on that page, I'd say that they probably can be classified as some form of weapon. And lest we forget (as the page you linked points out) that another class that used them was Rocket Grunts in Gen I... It seems fitting. [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF6600">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF0000">Contribs</span>]]) 00:52, 4/24/2014 (UTC)
:Well given the concept art and the blurb from Sugimori on that page, I'd say that they probably can be classified as some form of weapon. And lest we forget (as the page you linked points out) that another class that used them was Rocket Grunts in Gen I... It seems fitting. [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF6600">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF0000">Contribs</span>]]) 00:52, 4/24/2014 (UTC)
::All right, adding it in.  --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 03:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
::All right, adding it in.  --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 03:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
== Pokémon I debated adding to the chart, but didn't ==
Just in case anyone wants to make a case for them:
*Scyther.  This one was a really tough call, particularly since the Japanese name doesn't reference scythes which throws in the question of whether this was an intentional design choice or not.  But what I'm really more torn up about is that... well, scythes are actually garden tools, and it's only thanks to them getting repurposed in pop culture as weapons that we think of them as such.  (You can make a scythe INTO a weapon, but it requires turning the blade 90 degrees, something which you don't really see in pop culture.  See {{wp|war scythe}}.)  It's a big complicated mess with the symbology of the Grim Reaper at the heart, and from what I've heard it's all for cool factor because a regular scythe is pretty awful as a weapon.  I've ruled them as "not weapons" for now, but I'd love to hear other opinions on this one.
*Timburr, Gurdurr and Conkeldurr.  While the "heavy bar" stuff they carry is certainly used as weapons, I ultimately decided that these can't really be classified as weapons themselves.  It's more like an improvised weapon, you know?  Like if there was a Pokémon who walked around smacking other Pokémon with folding chairs.  If the Pokédex compared these to another weapon, like a quarterstaff, that would be a different story.
*Delphox.  Similar story.  It uses its "magic wand" only for combat, but honestly, it's hard to argue it as a weapon considering it's a fictional device and one with varying usage in said fiction.  It's more like a tool, kind of like Alakazam's spoons or Hypno's pendant.
On a side note, I think it'd be interesting to have a simple article listing all Pokémon who carry tools, weapons and other objects separate from themselves (not counting [[held item]]s).  Maybe breaking them into sections by usage? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 13:31, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
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