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(Filling out the list. That should be all Gym Leaders, Elite Four, Champs and Team Leaders. Next: Frontier Brains? If they can be said to have them, anyway...)
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The Johto signatures are all fairly clear-cut, with two exceptions:
The Johto signatures are all fairly clear-cut, with two exceptions:
* In the games, [[Clair]]'s signature is clearly established as her {{p|Kingdra}}.  However, in other media, her [[Clair's Dragonite|Dragonair]] takes a more prominent role.  This is reflected in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, wherein [[rematch]]es of her will show that one of her two {{p|Dragonair}}s has eclipsed her Kingdra in level and evolved into {{p|Dragonite}}.
* In the games, [[Clair]]'s signature is clearly established as her {{p|Kingdra}}.  However, in other media, her [[Clair's Dragonite|Dragonair]] takes a more prominent role.  This is reflected in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, wherein [[rematch]]es of her will show that one of her two {{p|Dragonair}}s has eclipsed her Kingdra in level and evolved into {{p|Dragonite}}.
* While [[Karen]]'s strongest is her {{p|Houndoom}}, she's better known across media for her lead Pokémon, her {{p|Umbreon}}.  This is reflected in the {{pkmn|Stadium series}}.  Additionally, just as in Clair's example, HeartGold and SoulSilver reflect by having Umbreon jump from the bottom of her team to the top in rematches.
* While [[Karen]]'s strongest is her {{p|Houndoom}}, she's better known across media for her lead Pokémon, her {{p|Umbreon}}.  This is reflected in the {{pkmn|Stadium series}}.  Additionally, just as with Clair, HeartGold and SoulSilver reflect by having Umbreon jump from the bottom of her team to the top in rematches.
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===Generation III===
===Generation III===
By this point, the games were becoming more clear-cut in establishing a trainer's signature Pokémon.  Still, there was one small exception:
By this point, the games were becoming more clear-cut in establishing a trainer's signature Pokémon.  Still, there was one small exception:
* In his initial appearance in {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}, [[Wattson]]'s signature is his {{p|Magneton}}.  However, from {{v2|Emerald}} onward, he obtains a new {{p|Manectric}} and it is established as his signature. This is possibly because he was one of the only important trainers in the game that did not have a new [[Generation III]] Pokémon as his signature.
* In his initial appearance in {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}, [[Wattson]]'s signature is his {{p|Magneton}}, making him the only [[Gym Leader]] of the game whose strongest Pokémon did not debut in [[Generation III]].  However, from {{v2|Emerald}} onward, he obtains a new {{p|Manectric}} and it is established as his signature.
 
On the other hand, this game also introduces the [[Frontier Brain]]s, most of whom cannot be argued to have a signature.  The primary exception is [[Pike Queen Lucy|Lucy]], who not only dresses like her signature {{TP|Lucy|Seviper}} but is in charge of the {{DL|Battle Frontier (Generation III)|Battle Pike}}, a facility built to look like a giant Seviper.
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In {{v2|Platinum}}, some of the trainers would have a higher-level Pokémon eclipse their signature as the strongest and final member of the team.  Otherwise, there were still some exceptions:
In {{v2|Platinum}}, some of the trainers would have a higher-level Pokémon eclipse their signature as the strongest and final member of the team.  Otherwise, there were still some exceptions:
* [[Fantina]] actually has ''two'' signature Pokémon, neither of which is particularly debatable:  {{TP|Fantina|Drifblim}} and {{p|Mismagius}}.  Mismagius can be considered her strongest and signature battling Pokémon, while her Drifblim tends to be one of her weaker Pokémon, and is in fact absent for her initial Platinum Gym Battle.  However, Drifblim is her star Pokémon for {{pkmn|Super Contest}}s, and she wears a dress with a design based on it.  Due to this notable distinction, both are listed.
* [[Fantina]] actually has ''two'' signature Pokémon, neither of which is particularly debatable:  {{TP|Fantina|Drifblim}} and {{p|Mismagius}}.  Mismagius can be considered her strongest and signature battling Pokémon, while her Drifblim tends to be one of her weaker Pokémon, and is in fact absent for her initial Platinum Gym Battle.  However, Drifblim is her star Pokémon for {{pkmn|Super Contest}}s, and she wears a dress with a design based on it.  Due to this notable distinction, both are listed.
* Like Wattson in the previous generation, [[Candice]] had her {{p|Abomasnow}} overtaken by a new {{p|Froslass}} for Platinum.  The reason for this is unclear, but it may have been seen as a more suiting signature for a young girl.  This was also the first of numerous signatures that originated purely from [[Generation IV]] being replaced by new evolutions of Pokémon from previous games.
* Like Wattson in the previous generation, [[Candice]] had her {{p|Abomasnow}} overtaken by a new {{p|Froslass}} for Platinum.  The reason for this is unclear, but it was the first of numerous signatures that originated purely from [[Generation IV]] being replaced by new evolutions of Pokémon from previous games.
* In the same vein, [[Volkner]] and {{EF|Flint}} had their {{p|Luxray}} and {{TP|Flint|Infernape}} replaced by {{p|Electivire}} and {{p|Magmortar}}, respectively.  Since these two Pokémon can be seen as counterparts, this decision was likely made both to underscore the friendship between the two men as well as to give them matching teams for their [[Tag Battle]] in the [[Battle Zone]].  Additionally, this change is similar to Candice's, where Generation IV originals were replaced by new evolutions of Pokémon from previous games.
* In the same vein, [[Volkner]] and {{EF|Flint}} had their {{p|Luxray}} and {{TP|Flint|Infernape}} replaced by {{p|Electivire}} and {{p|Magmortar}}, respectively.  These two Pokémon can be seen as counterparts, fitting the friendship between the two men and giving them matching teams for their [[Tag Battle]] in the [[Battle Zone]].  Additionally, this change is similar to Candice's, where Generation IV originals were replaced by new evolutions of Pokémon from previous games.
* [[Bertha]] and [[Lucian]], too, had their signatures changed for Platinum.  Bertha's changed from {{p|Hippowdon}} to a new {{p|Rhyperior}}, and Lucian's changed from {{p|Bronzong}} to {{p|Gallade}}.  This change is similar to Candice's, where Generation IV originals were replaced by new evolutions of Pokémon from previous games.  Unlike other trainers that fell under this change, these two trainers never appeared in a battle outside of the [[Sinnoh]] [[Elite Four]], making it difficult to judge whether this change would stick or not.  However, since it stayed for the others as far as the {{pkmn|World Tournament}}, it is safest to assume their Platinum signatures are the permanent ones.
* [[Bertha]] and [[Lucian]], too, had their signatures changed for Platinum.  Bertha's changed from {{p|Hippowdon}} to a new {{p|Rhyperior}}, and Lucian's changed from {{p|Bronzong}} to {{p|Gallade}}.  This change is similar to Candice's, where Generation IV originals were replaced by new evolutions of Pokémon from previous games.  Unlike other trainers that fell under this change, these two trainers never appeared in a battle outside of the [[Sinnoh]] [[Elite Four]], making it difficult to judge whether this change would stick or not.  However, since it stayed for the others as far as the {{pkmn|World Tournament}}, it is safest to assume their Platinum signatures are permanent.
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===Side games===
===Side games===
====Colosseum and XD====
====Colosseum and XD====
Interestingly, in {{pkmn|Colosseum}}, important members of [[Cipher]] usually do not use their signature Pokémon the first time they are encountered.  Instead, they each have a [[Shadow Pokémon]] as their team's cornerstone, up until it is [[snagging|snagged]].  Once it is gone, their signature replaces it.  Since these are interchangeable, both are listed.
Interestingly, in {{pkmn|Colosseum}}, important members of [[Cipher]] usually do not use their signature Pokémon the first time they are encountered.  Instead, they each have a [[Shadow Pokémon]] as their team's cornerstone, up until it is [[snagging|snagged]].  Once it is gone, their signature replaces it.  Since these are treated as interchangeable in the games, both are listed.


[[Miror B.]] is the exception, and perhaps an exception to how all trainers typically carry their signature:  The first time he is encountered, his team has ''five'' of his signature {{p|Ludicolo}} on it, followed by a single Shadow {{p|Sudowoodo}}, which is also a dancing plant.  After that, his team shows a little more variety, but he always carries {{p|Lombre}} and Ludicolo in varying numbers.
[[Miror B.]] is the exception, and perhaps an exception to how all trainers typically carry their signature:  The first time he is encountered, his team has ''five'' of his signature {{p|Ludicolo}} on it, followed by a single Shadow {{p|Sudowoodo}}, which is also a dancing plant.  After that, his team shows a little more variety, but he always carries {{p|Lombre}} and Ludicolo in varying numbers.  Like his fellow [[Cipher Admin]]s, he does carry a replacement for his Sudowoodo after it is snagged, namely an {{p|Armaldo}}, and it holds the spot of the strongest on his team.  However, his connection to Ludicolo easily overshadows this and is carried forward into the sequel.


In {{XD}}, the Admins change their teams too often, both in terms of regular Pokémon and Shadow Pokémon, to be considered to have any sort of signature.
In {{XD}}, the members of Cipher change their teams too often, both in terms of regular Pokémon and Shadow Pokémon, to be considered to have any sort of signature.
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* Since {{an|Professor Oak}} captured his {{TP|Professor Oak|Rotom}}, it has appeared every time that the Professor has.
* Since {{an|Professor Oak}} captured his {{TP|Professor Oak|Rotom}}, it has appeared every time that the Professor has.
* The [[Nurse Joy]]s have had several, differing by nation:  {{TP|Nurse Joy|Chansey}} in [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]] and [[Sinnoh]], {{TP|Nurse Joy|Audino}} in [[Unova]], and {{TP|Nurse Joy|Wigglytuff}} in [[Kalos]].
* The [[Nurse Joy]]s have had several, differing by nation:  {{TP|Nurse Joy|Chansey}} in [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]] and [[Sinnoh]], {{TP|Nurse Joy|Audino}} in [[Unova]], and {{TP|Nurse Joy|Wigglytuff}} in [[Kalos]].
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