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::::::::Well, because it's the ''National Order''. I know the National Order. I've played every game more or less as it came out, or had my ear to the game news. I don't have any trouble, really, telling which Generation a Pokemon was in. Therefore, I also know its position in the National Pokedex relative to others. So when I see Tauros from Gen I between a Gen II and Gen V Pokemon, that's jarring. | ::::::::Well, because it's the ''National Order''. I know the National Order. I've played every game more or less as it came out, or had my ear to the game news. I don't have any trouble, really, telling which Generation a Pokemon was in. Therefore, I also know its position in the National Pokedex relative to others. So when I see Tauros from Gen I between a Gen II and Gen V Pokemon, that's jarring. | ||
::::::::But just in general, National Pokedex order is an ''actual'' order. Your family-prioritized order is a rarity at best; it's absolutely not in any games (at least as far as I remember; which says something if it actually is). Therefore, it is also not so understandable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:12, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | ::::::::But just in general, National Pokedex order is an ''actual'' order. Your family-prioritized order is a rarity at best; it's absolutely not in any games (at least as far as I remember; which says something if it actually is). Therefore, it is also not so understandable. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:12, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::AH. I see part of the problem: I am trying to do what will be simplest for a Pokémon newbie to understand( grouping visually similar, related Pokémon together); while you are doing what makes most sense for someone who has memorized the National Pokédex order. Is there a compromise that would be less space-consuming than the one you have posted in this section( which, ftr, looks O.K. to me, just has more blank space than I would like)? | :::::::::AH. I see part of the problem: I am trying to do what will be simplest for a Pokémon newbie to understand( grouping visually similar, related Pokémon together); while you are doing what makes most sense for someone who has memorized the National Pokédex order. Is there a compromise that would be less space-consuming than the one you have posted in this section( which, ftr, looks O.K. to me, just has more blank space than I would like)? {{unsigned|LaprasBoi}} | ||
::::::::::Given that we are on a wiki on which all users have access to the fandom's complete collective knowledge of Pokemon (or at least, as close to it as we can get), I don't think we should sacrifice canonical sense for ease of understanding. But also I like the table Tiddlywinks posted above as a compromise. I'm not too concerned with the blank space; given the choice between it and misleading/confusing/cluttered presentation, I'll take the blank space. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:34, 9 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
==Evolution and players== | ==Evolution and players== |
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