Talk:Piloswine (Pokémon): Difference between revisions

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:It is absolutely an enormous stretch; lots of things happened in the Pliocene, not just the ice cap forming, and picking out an uncommon term for ice caps to justify the assertion is just idiotic. I'll remove it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:19, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
:It is absolutely an enormous stretch; lots of things happened in the Pliocene, not just the ice cap forming, and picking out an uncommon term for ice caps to justify the assertion is just idiotic. I'll remove it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:19, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. I was about to remove it before I thought it best to bring the issues up first on the talk page just to be safe. I know people get touchy when it comes to the name origin of Pokémon. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. I was about to remove it before I thought it best to bring the issues up first on the talk page just to be safe. I know people get touchy when it comes to the name origin of Pokémon. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
== PECKING PILOSWINE ==
Possible trivia addition: Piloswine('s line) is the only evolutionary line that has access to the move peck--actually learning the move on its own†--which at no evolutionary stage is either avian (hence beak) or possessing an obvious horn/spike on the head to use for this attack. (Presumably this is done using the tusks? Maybe?) In fact, with the sole exception of Maractus, (whose general spikiness manifests in its movepool elsewhere, if the headspike doesn't) all the other non-avian pokemon with access to peck also have access to some other "horn" move--horn attack‡, megahorn, or horn drill--meaning that their horn is acknowledged elsewhere in their movepool as a thing they attack with.
†you have to use the move rememberer to get at it legally, yes, but that works on the premise that it learned the move on its own and then forgot it. I'm making a distinction here between egg moves, move tutors and tm/hm moves as opposed to moves that are part of the base movepool. If you were to somehow catch a level 1 piloswine in gen IV, IT WOULD KNOW PECK. 
‡Interestingly, in gen III, Piloswine learned ''horn attack'' instead of peck, but in later generations it has peck instead, with no way to teach it horn attack. That means that between gens III and IV, someone consciously decided that ''horn attack was not a sensible move for Piloswine to learn; peck makes much more sense.''
Mostly, however, my point is that Piloswine is not avian, nor does it have a horn. Surely there must have been SOMETHING more appropriate than peck? Why peck?? Nidoran♀ pointedly does ''not'' learn peck, or any of the other related horn-y moves, while her male counterpart does, because her horns are too small/she does not have a head spike. Only six non-avian lines have ''ever'' had access to the move peck,  and only five lines have had access to peck since gen II (seel only very briefly had it via breeding); Piloswine has NO OTHER moves that are even remotely "spike/jab"-y!  [[User:Harumei|Harumei]] ([[User talk:Harumei|talk]]) 19:13, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
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