Talk:List of Pokémon Adventures volumes: Difference between revisions

::::It's not really speculative at all, it just shows the planned release schedule and ISBN numbers, and that is fact. Clearly the release schedule they planned has changed, and I make no claims as to wether or not Viz will even release them, because as with anything, future release schedules can change, and things can get cancelled. This is likely what has happened, but it doesn't mean the ISBN numbers can not be used later and as far as i know, there is no requirement or implication that volumes listed here are released or 100% will be, only that a publisher plans to release them. It's not like this is some fake rumor, this is simply Viz showing they intend/intended to release them, and unless otherwise stated, they will at some point. They are on the normal Viz website, but without any info (invalid product codes take you to the home page, while valid hidden ones load the product page, but the info likely isn't on them yet, is the case with these). The date for release is official, but things change, and Viz are terrible at keeping their website working (let alone up to date). The B/W series listing doesn't even exist on their site, you have to find the indivual issues yourself or through their news, and many of the older olvumes and current, don't even have their cover artwork uploaded until after it appears elsewhere, and sometimes even after release. So again, I've yet to see any real argument against this. If this list is to require secondary sources eg. amazon as proof of existance, then just state as much, otherwise it's as official as any Viz release can ever get before it appears elsewhere, so just because apprently the community didn't realise they were already planned for release a while back, and the current community thinking is that those chapters won't to be released anytime soon, doesn't mean the ooopinions of the community has any say in the matter. --[[User:Zeal|<span title="Zeal" style="color:#90C">'''Zeal'''</span>]]&nbsp;^{[[User talk:Zeal|<span title="Talk" style="color:#999">T</span>]]&nbsp;/&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Zeal|<span title="Contributions" style="color:#999">C</span>]]} 21:52, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

:::::Where are you not seeing the B&W chapter? i found it on both viz.com and viz kids website in like 5 seconds. I guess my point is, what point is there listing this information if it's so uncertain? And how official is a release date that has passed and has had no book exist...? i'm also not sure where you're getting the facts that VIZ's website is unreliable for release information, since while i have found Amazon generally gets detailed book information before they put it on their own site, all the pages look up to date to me. Anyway, I'm not putting this on the page unless I can believe these actually exist. I wrote to VIZ earlier this afternoon so hopefully we can get this cleared up for real in another day or two. Otherwise, the most I think is needed is a footnote on the respective chapter/volume pages, only if they are confirmed as cancelled (again, see {{OBP|Arceus and the Jewel of Life|graphic novel}}, the cancelled book isn't listed in the infobox as if it's a real book or future book, just a footnote in trivia as a cancelled translation). There is no point in listing release dates and ISBN information as solid facts when it's unconfirmed, speculative, etc. I don't want to mislead anyone into thinking that the release schedule is planned this far ahead - I recall that the books generally aren't (in)formally announced for real on the release schedule more than two or at the most three ahead. This honestly looks like placeholder/projective pages made at the beginning of the project to me. Anyway, i am hoping to hear from VIZ soon (i have written to them before and gotten replies within less than a week) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 04:32, 26 November 2011 (UTC)