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Trivia Rock Type
 
:::Yep. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:orange">SuperAipom7</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|<span style="color:blue">Questions?</span>]])''</small> 22:04, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 
==Daleks?==
 
Is it just me, or do the look like daleks from doctor who? Beheeyems have domed bodies like daleks, and it has four dalek like spots. Beheeyems speak through light patterns like the lights on daleks' heads.The lines around it's eyes resemble the black "neck" below a daleks eye stocks. Finally, Beheeyems teal eyes look like one, similar to a daleks single blue eye stock. I am pretty sure that this resemblance is true, but correct me if i'm wrong.[[User:Spaceman46|Spaceman46]] 00:54, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
:I don't really think so. Beheeyem communicates somewhat like Morse code + semaphore, whereas Daleks actually speak. I don't really see a resemblance between the lines and a Dalek's neck. Lastly, the eyes don't really look anything like a Dalek's stock. The only resemblance I see personally would be the buttons on Beheeyem's front abdomen, they resemble the self-destructive spheres around a Dalek. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 01:15, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
::I added the bit about the spheres to the origin section. There was actually a {{wp|Dalek variants#'Hayakawa' Daleks|Japanese Dalek}} made by Yukio Sekiguchi in 1980, and its 'hand' does resemble Beheeyem's. It's a bit obscure though.
 
::http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5f/Japanese_Dalek.jpg
 
::<small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 04:20, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 
== TM51 ==
 
So the article mentions that TM51 may be an oversight but it may have been intentional. To reference the USA's secret military base where aliens were supposed taken. Just a thought =]
 
[[User:Hayate|Hayate]] ([[User talk:Hayate|talk]]) 05:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 
:Area 51? It would make a little bit of sense, because a lot of TMs were changed between Gens V and VI, and I don't think any other "transfer-only" Pokémon ended up with a weird move in their arsenal like this. To me it seems a bit more believable than the rather weak "oversight" defense. --[[User:Kianglo|<span style="color:#6900FF"><b>KiANGLO</b></span>]] <sup>''([[User talk:Kianglo|<span style="color:#cc00aa">TALK</span>]])''</sup> 23:43, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 
== Regarding Steel Wing ==
 
Hello! I would like to discuss the trivia point regarding Steel Wing, and I'm going to preface this with an explanation of what has already happened.
This point initially mentioned Area 51 as a possible origin for Elgyem and Beheeyem learning TM51 even when it contained Steel Wing. It was then changed to be "less speculative" and outright say it was probably an oversight. ''This is still speculation,'' just on the opposite side: we haven't gotten explicit confirmation that it was an oversight ''any more'' than we have gotten explicit confirmation that it was intentional.
Later, I changed it to be more neutral, but was told it was not notable unless it attempted to explain it. Except that it was first changed due to being speculative, and the result was no less so, so if it can't be speculation and it can't exist unless it has speculation, I decided, "hey, maybe it just shouldn't exist."
So I deleted it. This was then reverted by Force Fire, who clarified that it was a mistake on his part, and he had thought I was someone else and was trying to prevent vandalism.
Except... it's still here. Now, I know that if I remove it again now without explaining, I'll probably just get in trouble for "edit warring," because its removal was reverted once.
That said, the only time it was reverted was clarified to be by mistake, and I've already explained that it's still speculative and needs to either be more neutral or removed, and I've been told that being more neutral makes it unnotable.
Because of that, I believe I'm justified removing the trivia point now - on both this page and Elgyem's - and would appreciate if it's not readded without any discussion on the matter. There's another discussion on this talk page on a related matter (albeit disagreeing with the notion that it was an error, not with it being mentioned at all), evidencing that, already, there have been people other than myself who disagree that it's an oversight - obviously, again, making the claim that it's probably an oversight is just as speculative as making the claim that it's not. Additionally, no reason has been given ''for'' the point to be here.
I'm removing it now, and again, please discuss on the talk page and ''explain why'' if you're going to add it again.
Sorry for the wall of text! Just wanted to explain myself before someone assumes I'm just edit-warring for no reason, and to invite anyone who disagrees to actually explain why. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 05:59, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
:My thought at the moment is that this should be easily resolved upon the release of Generation VII, but for now, let us see if we can do the best that we can. The whole history part is a bit confusing which is likely why we are having this discussion, but I will focus on what I can assist with.
:Regarding trivia on moves, there is a history of having trivia on the Pokémon article for mistakes and other issues before. To start with, the article on Vaporeon notes its inability to learn Mist in Yellow due to learning Haze at the same level. Additionally, Seaking is noted on its article for apparently not having Supersonic as a starting move; it instead has a second Tail Whip for its third move. Nosepass and Head Smash are mentioned for HeartGold and SoulSilver, if only because Nosepass is the only Pokémon in the Mineral Group that can learn it and only through breeding, thus it cannot learn it. Speaking of Breeding, the articles for Bulbasaur, Smoochum, Oddish, and Snorlax have some trivia for either the move Charm or the move Lovely Kiss due to Generation II. And concluding with part of Gen II, Staryu and Starmie can get Aurora Beam, Barrier, and Supersonic through breeding if you have Gold and Silver, just so long as the issue of Genderless Pokémon is ignored. Thus, we have reached an end to trivia on species articles.
:So, I think that is what I can add to this, which hopefully is somewhat helpful somehow.--[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:03, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 
== Regarding that TM51 Trivia ==
 
Given that we have had both Elgyem and Beheeyem learn TM51 in three Generations despite the move switch between Generation V and VI, would it make sense to restore the trivia that we had in the past? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 08:16, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
 
== Trivia Rock Type ==
 
Why is beeheeyem listed as a rock type in the origin trivia? It's the part that references dogu statues.
 
[[User:Isbeb|Isbeb]] ([[User talk:Isbeb|talk]]) 19:10, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:I fixed it. Probably just an error from whoever added it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)