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First off, in regards to uniques, the only one explicitly confirmed to be Unique is Mewtwo. Most of the others are either unconfirmed or explicitly shown to be non-unique and thus should not be listed as such. Also, don't claim that they had some sort of important role in creating something (like creation of the Universe, for example) as a reason to state that they should be unique, because I will remind everyone that the Anime doesn't even care whether the creatures had an important role in creation. For example, Kyogre and Rayquaza was the one who created the Seas as well as the ruler of the skies/mitigator between Groudon and Kyogre's fight, respectively. However, that never stopped them from gaining multiple species, as evidenced with Kyogre reappearing in Movie 9 even though by the time of the movie, the Kyogre they encountered had already went back into slumber at the bottom of the basin, and if Kyogre has multiples, there's a fine bet that Groudon would have multiples as well. Rayquaza has also been shown to reappear three times, with one actually being captured by Team Rocket. Even if all three were the same entity, the mere fact that Kyogre and Groudon (explicitly shown and by proxy, respectively) had multiples meant that Rayquaza would have multiples as well. I mean, no sense in having one have multiples while others in the same trio not have the same multiples, either. Because of this, we can't use the whole "but they helped create Isshu/the Universe" belief as the reason why they are unique. Unless they have explicitly shown that they are unique, they can not be labelled as such, especially not under assumptions. If you have any evidence that suggests that the Legendaries encountered in the Anime are the same (e.g., the legendary in question actually recognizing Ash and co. from a previous encounter), then please add it in with the proper citation. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:27, 1 May 2011 (UTC) | First off, in regards to uniques, the only one explicitly confirmed to be Unique is Mewtwo. Most of the others are either unconfirmed or explicitly shown to be non-unique and thus should not be listed as such. Also, don't claim that they had some sort of important role in creating something (like creation of the Universe, for example) as a reason to state that they should be unique, because I will remind everyone that the Anime doesn't even care whether the creatures had an important role in creation. For example, Kyogre and Rayquaza was the one who created the Seas as well as the ruler of the skies/mitigator between Groudon and Kyogre's fight, respectively. However, that never stopped them from gaining multiple species, as evidenced with Kyogre reappearing in Movie 9 even though by the time of the movie, the Kyogre they encountered had already went back into slumber at the bottom of the basin, and if Kyogre has multiples, there's a fine bet that Groudon would have multiples as well. Rayquaza has also been shown to reappear three times, with one actually being captured by Team Rocket. Even if all three were the same entity, the mere fact that Kyogre and Groudon (explicitly shown and by proxy, respectively) had multiples meant that Rayquaza would have multiples as well. I mean, no sense in having one have multiples while others in the same trio not have the same multiples, either. Because of this, we can't use the whole "but they helped create Isshu/the Universe" belief as the reason why they are unique. Unless they have explicitly shown that they are unique, they can not be labelled as such, especially not under assumptions. If you have any evidence that suggests that the Legendaries encountered in the Anime are the same (e.g., the legendary in question actually recognizing Ash and co. from a previous encounter), then please add it in with the proper citation. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 20:27, 1 May 2011 (UTC) | ||
== Zekrom and Reshiram == | == Zekrom and Reshiram: "Constant Conflict?" No. == | ||
Their paragraph states that the two are in constant conflict with one another. This is not true--not only are they sealed away in Stones for many years prior to Black and White, but in Opelucid City, Iris also states that the two "get along so well." [[User:Grei|Grei]] 06:27, 4 June 2011 (UTC) | Their paragraph states that the two are in constant conflict with one another. This is not true--not only are they sealed away in Stones for many years prior to Black and White, but in Opelucid City, Iris also states that the two "get along so well." [[User:Grei|Grei]] 06:27, 4 June 2011 (UTC) | ||