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Does it seem to anyone else that Rhyperior is based on a stereotypical miner? The ring of orange rocks around its waist resembles a miner's belt, and the rocks on its shoulders resemble suspender straps. And the horns on its head could represent the helmet light. Compare these two: | Does it seem to anyone else that Rhyperior is based on a stereotypical miner? The ring of orange rocks around its waist resembles a miner's belt, and the rocks on its shoulders resemble suspender straps. And the horns on its head could represent the helmet light. Compare these two: | ||
*http://www.legis.state.wv.us/Wrapup/2006/issue_01/miner.jpg http:// | *http://www.legis.state.wv.us/Wrapup/2006/issue_01/miner.jpg http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d9/464Rhyperior.png --[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 14:25, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Um...I don't see it... --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">512</span>]]''' 14:25, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | :Um...I don't see it... --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">512</span>]]''' 14:25, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:: I see it, it would be a fat miner but I definably see what you mean. Also it looks like it has noise dampening ear muffs, something a miner/construction worker sometimes uses with heavy machinery -- [[User:D558|D558]] 11:19, 26 July 2009 (UTC) | :: I see it, it would be a fat miner but I definably see what you mean. Also it looks like it has noise dampening ear muffs, something a miner/construction worker sometimes uses with heavy machinery -- [[User:D558|D558]] 11:19, 26 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
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I see a much more profound resemblance to this miner design then any Dinosaur or a tank, which are mentioned. The dinosaur part is worth mentioning because of his pre-evos and he is obviously inspired to be a RhinoSaurs. BUT his plates are placed to peculiar to be asumed it's anlysksaur (can't spell it :/) inspired, save the tail. The tank is ok to be mentioned briefly because that would explain the arms having holes in the palms. | I see a much more profound resemblance to this miner design then any Dinosaur or a tank, which are mentioned. The dinosaur part is worth mentioning because of his pre-evos and he is obviously inspired to be a RhinoSaurs. BUT his plates are placed to peculiar to be asumed it's anlysksaur (can't spell it :/) inspired, save the tail. The tank is ok to be mentioned briefly because that would explain the arms having holes in the palms. | ||
But over all, the miner idea makes A LOT more sense now. It should be the primary origin reference. I mean, defensive plates on dinos are usually on the back, tail, head, limbs. Just a random belt of plates going around seems "clumsy" for Game Freak. No real animal has plates on it underbelly. It's just plain odd. This leads us to look at another source. That when this miner idea sets it. It explains a lot of Rhyperior's features and would probably make people hate Rhyperior less due to his "stoopid" design. I mean, look at it. A toolbelt, suspenders, ear muffs, horns, etc. I'm sure there is a lot that people can start associating Rhyperior here, to a miner. I personally noticed the silver part under his chin. It looks almost like an undershirt. You know, like what any man might were under there uniform. If you unbotton your dress shirt 2 buttons, you get a pick of the shirt underneath. I think that might be what happened to Rhyperior's design. Remember Rhydon's underbelly was that color and texture. So this looks like Rhydon literally but on a thick brown shirt. This would also explain Rhyperior's color change from silver to a brownish town. Away from stone and rock and more to a ground tone. Not to mentioned Rhyperior's shiny sprite has GOLDEN plates. Why do most people think when you say Miner? Probably Gold, or some other precious metal, or even oil. But still. You may be able to see a trend here. I MAY be reading to much into this, but it makes more sense then "Triceratops". Don't get me wrong! I love Triceratops! My favorite herbivores Dinosaur since I was little. That's | But over all, the miner idea makes A LOT more sense now. It should be the primary origin reference. I mean, defensive plates on dinos are usually on the back, tail, head, limbs. Just a random belt of plates going around seems "clumsy" for Game Freak. No real animal has plates on it underbelly. It's just plain odd. This leads us to look at another source. That when this miner idea sets it. It explains a lot of Rhyperior's features and would probably make people hate Rhyperior less due to his "stoopid" design. I mean, look at it. A toolbelt, suspenders, ear muffs, horns, etc. I'm sure there is a lot that people can start associating Rhyperior here, to a miner. I personally noticed the silver part under his chin. It looks almost like an undershirt. You know, like what any man might were under there uniform. If you unbotton your dress shirt 2 buttons, you get a pick of the shirt underneath. I think that might be what happened to Rhyperior's design. Remember Rhydon's underbelly was that color and texture. So this looks like Rhydon literally but on a thick brown shirt. This would also explain Rhyperior's color change from silver to a brownish town. Away from stone and rock and more to a ground tone. Not to mentioned Rhyperior's shiny sprite has GOLDEN plates. Why do most people think when you say Miner? Probably Gold, or some other precious metal, or even oil. But still. You may be able to see a trend here. I MAY be reading to much into this, but it makes more sense then "Triceratops". Don't get me wrong! I love Triceratops! My favorite herbivores Dinosaur since I was little. That's partly why I love Rhyhorn and his family line so much, but I really just don't see it in Rhyperior anymore. His head is shaped differently.[[User:Tro|Tro]] 04:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Wow. You make a good argument. And on your first day, too. Sure, add it for now, I won't bother an admin. But if a staff member removes it, don't re-add it. --[[User:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#52D017">Bee</span>]] [[Special:Random|<span style="color:#616D7E">§</span>]] [[User talk:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#157DEC">Bwakka</span>]] 05:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | :Wow. You make a good argument. And on your first day, too. Sure, add it for now, I won't bother an admin. But if a staff member removes it, don't re-add it. --[[User:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#52D017">Bee</span>]] [[Special:Random|<span style="color:#616D7E">§</span>]] [[User talk:BeeBwakka|<span style="color:#157DEC">Bwakka</span>]] 05:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
Thank you very very much. You don't understand how much that means to me. Oh, and please excuse all those typos in there. I typed that up off my iPhone. I'll fix it tomorrow morning. Anyways, uh, yeah. Thank you. It is my first day, but I am a HARD CORE RHYPERIOR FAN. He just doesn't get enough love! I think the reason is people just don't understand his design. They call him a "fat Rhydon that eat to many rocks". That hurts me. It's so much deeper then that. And this miner idea seems to be the key. Hopefully people will look at Rhyperior differently now that he actually has a logical inspriation, rather then just a mix of this and that. I like Rhyperior before, but this has made my love ever so more profound. Haha. I joined today in hopes of seeing what Bulbapedia had to offer in terms of forums and discussion but when I saw I could edit Rhyperior's page myself. I had to contribute my theories. I'll try and add a nicely worded section in the origin section tomorrow explain what I said above in wiki speak. Although I am new to this so it might not be as great as someone else might make. But, we'll see. Maybe someone can polish and wax it afterwards. Thanks again![[User:Tro|Tro]] 05:24, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | Thank you very very much. You don't understand how much that means to me. Oh, and please excuse all those typos in there. I typed that up off my iPhone. I'll fix it tomorrow morning. Anyways, uh, yeah. Thank you. It is my first day, but I am a HARD CORE RHYPERIOR FAN. He just doesn't get enough love! I think the reason is people just don't understand his design. They call him a "fat Rhydon that eat to many rocks". That hurts me. It's so much deeper then that. And this miner idea seems to be the key. Hopefully people will look at Rhyperior differently now that he actually has a logical inspriation, rather then just a mix of this and that. I like Rhyperior before, but this has made my love ever so more profound. Haha. I joined today in hopes of seeing what Bulbapedia had to offer in terms of forums and discussion but when I saw I could edit Rhyperior's page myself. I had to contribute my theories. I'll try and add a nicely worded section in the origin section tomorrow explain what I said above in wiki speak. Although I am new to this so it might not be as great as someone else might make. But, we'll see. Maybe someone can polish and wax it afterwards. Thanks again![[User:Tro|Tro]] 05:24, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
Ok How about this for the new origin section: | |||
Like it's two pre-evolutions, it appears to draw much of its inspiration from a rhinoceros, a small amount from various dinosaurs (most notably, an Ankylosaurus due to it's clubbed tail and many defensive plates). It's overall physic and rough hide resembles many aspects from even carnivorous dinosaurs, even such as a Tyrannosaurs-Rex as it's Chinese name implies. It's arms, having holes in the palms to shoot rocks out of, seems most likely a reference to a tank, symbolizing Rhyperior's awesome power and defense. But it's major design inspiration is that of a stereotypical miner. Although Rhyperior gives off the vibe of a dinosaur the placement of it's defensive plates are to peculiar to assume it's in relation to an Ankylosaurus. Animals usually have defensive plates on there backs, heads, hails, and/or limbs. Very few animals have any kind of protection on there underbelly, which begs the question: is it of other origin? The ring of orange rock like plates around its waist resemble a miner's tool belt. The rocky shoulder pads on its upper body resemble that of suspenders. The silver underbelly that is showing under it's chin resembles that of an undershirt poking out from under a uniform or pair of overalls (Rhydon has the same color and textured underbelly. It looks as if Rhydon literally took off it's silver vest and put on brown overalls, along with suspenders, and earmuffs. If you look close enough you can see Rhydon's face in Rhyperior's). In some artwork it shows Rhyperior as having jagged "collars" on the edge of his mouth, resembling an actual collar of uniform or dress shirt. | |||
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7874/0443.png (I don't know if we can put this image next to the section or not?) | |||
It's head sports a band of defensive plates that resemble noise dampening earmuffs. It's horn can also be seen as representing the helmet light that miner's use to see deep underground. It even has orange triangle shaped eyebrows that resemble bushy, masculine eyebrows. Their hide is said to be able to withstand an explosion from a volcano. This also plays into the miner theme as modern miners use dynamite and other explosives to help move mass amounts of rock. Rhyperior's tank like arms might be able to replicate a similar explosion, thus aiding it in it's own excavations. Shiny Rhyperiors further emphasizes the miner theme with having golden defensive plates. Miner are usually always associated with gold. | |||
[[User:Tro|Tro]] 23:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
I was also thinking of reworking the Physiology section to bring out the point that Rhyperior looks like a Rhydon with a heavy suit of rock armor made for mining. Not to mention the obvious pun done with the whole Rhyhorn family. RhinoSaurs. Since Rhinoceros sounds a lot like Rhinosaurs, saurs being a suffix that most dinosaur names have meaning "Lizard" and since rhino, from afar, don't look anything like mammals, I think GameFreak/Nintendo, did a running joke or pun with this. I don't know if anyone else agrees.[[User:Tro|Tro]] 23:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Rhyperior's Japanese Name == | == Rhyperior's Japanese Name == | ||