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:I don't have any knowledge on why, other than what you've noticed already. That said, if a wiki 'falls over' as it were, it's most frequently due to a lack of input from the community. That's also why Bulbapedia doesn't actively start new wikis for EP - if the community support needed to survive is there, then they'll make it themselves. If there's not enough of a community to sustain it then no amount of forcing will make that happen. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 06:08, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
:I don't have any knowledge on why, other than what you've noticed already. That said, if a wiki 'falls over' as it were, it's most frequently due to a lack of input from the community. That's also why Bulbapedia doesn't actively start new wikis for EP - if the community support needed to survive is there, then they'll make it themselves. If there's not enough of a community to sustain it then no amount of forcing will make that happen. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 06:08, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
::Looks like the same has happened with [http://poketeca.com Pokéteca] (not even [http://pkstation.com the original fan site] works). Now the thing is (and the answer I was really seeking): do you think it's worth to keep defunct sites on EP? In case the answer is yes, then what do you think it should be done if another fast-growing wiki in Portuguese/Spanish appeared? [[User:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#9E0508">'''The'''</span>]][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#5D9160">'''Original'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#60AFFE">'''One'''</span>]] 22:26, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
::Looks like the same has happened with [http://poketeca.com Pokéteca] (not even [http://pkstation.com the original fan site] works). Now the thing is (and the answer I was really seeking): do you think it's worth to keep defunct sites on EP? In case the answer is yes, then what do you think it should be done if another fast-growing wiki in Portuguese/Spanish appeared? [[User:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#9E0508">'''The'''</span>]][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#5D9160">'''Original'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#60AFFE">'''One'''</span>]] 22:26, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:::The inclusion (or exclusion) of a wiki from EP isn't up to me. On the 'Bulbagarden' opinion I have significant weight, but I would still need to discuss that with others before weighing in, and the ultimate decision rests with Archaic. In addition, while Bulbapedia is the oldest of the member wikis, and one of the founding members, we aren't the leader - the other members each get their say as well in any decision. I would guess that if it became a choice between a dead wiki and an active wiki of the same language, the old one would likely be replaced. I doubt we'll end up in that circumstance though, because as I mentioned earlier, they die because there's not enough of a userbase to sustain them, and as a result, not enough of a userbase to build and maintain a new one. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 08:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


==Something you didn't notice...==
==Something you didn't notice...==
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There are {{tt|few|read: five; Abra, Geodude, Machop, Omanyte and Kabuto as far as I know}} Generation I Pokémon whose exp yield was changed in G4, so technically they need three fields. (or the tt template?) 07:40, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
There are {{tt|few|read: five; Abra, Geodude, Machop, Omanyte and Kabuto as far as I know}} Generation I Pokémon whose exp yield was changed in G4, so technically they need three fields. (or the tt template?) 07:40, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 
:Ugh, can't they just make up their mind? Thanks for mentioning it. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 08:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
== Abilities ==
== Abilities ==


Do you know what sidegames (minus PMD) have description for Abilities (these that exist in main series; since eg. Conquest has both those in main-series and new ones). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 08:49, 12 August 2013 (UTC) PS. Asking because [[User talk:Marked +-+-+/AbilityInfobox|this]]. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 08:50, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Do you know what sidegames (minus PMD) have description for Abilities (these that exist in main series; since eg. Conquest has both those in main-series and new ones). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 08:49, 12 August 2013 (UTC) PS. Asking because [[User talk:Marked +-+-+/AbilityInfobox|this]]. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 08:50, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
:I can't think of any that you haven't already mentioned without research. As you said, PMD and Conquest do. Ranger doesn't, Rumble has [[Special Trait]]s instead. PokéPark I don't recall having abilities, and most of the others were before Gen III. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 08:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


== Side series ==
== Side series ==


For over a month, {{u|SnorlaxMonster}} has neglected to answer {{DL|User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Side series|my query}}, so I've come to you instead. {{DL|Talk:Generation VI|"For the first time in the main series, the games will be in full 3D"?|According to him}}, it was decided years ago that the Stadium, Box, and Colosseum series make up the "side series" rather than main or spin-off series. At my prodding, the respective games' pages were updated to acknowledge this, but we still have no template or mainspace page for side series, so all those links still redirect to spin-off series, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Games&curid=11934&diff=1951987&oldid=1917244 to the confusion of uninformed users]. I drafted the article and template we need in my userspace ([[User:Pumpkinking0192/Side series]] and [[User:Pumpkinking0192/Template:Side series]]). Are these suitable for mainspacing? If not, how can I fix that? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:24, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
For over a month, {{u|SnorlaxMonster}} has neglected to answer {{DL|User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Side series|my query}}, so I've come to you instead. {{DL|Talk:Generation VI|"For the first time in the main series, the games will be in full 3D"?|According to him}}, it was decided years ago that the Stadium, Box, and Colosseum series make up the "side series" rather than main or spin-off series. At my prodding, the respective games' pages were updated to acknowledge this, but we still have no template or mainspace page for side series, so all those links still redirect to spin-off series, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Games&curid=11934&diff=1951987&oldid=1917244 to the confusion of uninformed users]. I drafted the article and template we need in my userspace ([[User:Pumpkinking0192/Side series]] and [[User:Pumpkinking0192/Template:Side series]]). Are these suitable for mainspacing? If not, how can I fix that? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:24, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
:There was some miscommunication, resulting in a 'decision' to change the naming scheme being made without the proper input or approval of the Editorial Board, which is required for such a large, widespread change. There are several issues with the rename which have been brought to our attention and the change has been put on hold until the issues can be sorted, but it's taking a long time because there are many more things which are significantly more important, such as a number of very complex templates needing a complete rebuild before XY due to new mechanics. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 08:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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