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== ''September 2008 - January 2010'' == | |||
| <sc>''Archives:''</sc> [[File:Bag Rainbow Wing Sprite.png|link=User talk:KCorp4000/Archive1|Sept 2008 - Jan 2010]] [[File:Bag Silver Wing Sprite.png|link=User talk:KCorp4000/Archive2|Jan 2010 - Apr 2011]] | |||
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I was wondering if we should include an option for the first and last sections of the walkthrough, such as the introductory section (where you get your name, gender, starter, etc) and for the eventual final section. I've been tinkering with [[User:Oz/Sandbox|a design that can incorporate that kind of thing]], and I was hoping you could give it a look over, and see if it would be better than the one currently being used. If it's not, I'm fine with that. If it is, I'd be happy to make all the changes to the necessary pages. Cheers! --[[User:Oz|<span style="color:#800000">'''O'''</span>]][[User talk:Oz|<span style="color:#C8A2C8">'''z'''</span>]] 15:40, 6 January 2010 (UTC) | I was wondering if we should include an option for the first and last sections of the walkthrough, such as the introductory section (where you get your name, gender, starter, etc) and for the eventual final section. I've been tinkering with [[User:Oz/Sandbox|a design that can incorporate that kind of thing]], and I was hoping you could give it a look over, and see if it would be better than the one currently being used. If it's not, I'm fine with that. If it is, I'd be happy to make all the changes to the necessary pages. Cheers! --[[User:Oz|<span style="color:#800000">'''O'''</span>]][[User talk:Oz|<span style="color:#C8A2C8">'''z'''</span>]] 15:40, 6 January 2010 (UTC) | ||
:That's certainly not a bad idea. A decent work-around for the first & final sections would be a great help. I do have one comment, though. It looks pretty good, but when I tried to put "no" for the previous section, it came up like this: | |||
:I tried leaving <i>prevsection</i> and <i>prevname</i> blank, but that didn't work either. I don't claim to be the best with wiki-code, so it's possible I just misread it and used it wrong. If the unneeded side would blank out, like the bar on R/B's first section ↓ ... | |||
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:...then we'd be in business. ;) --[[User:KCorp4000|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''''K'''''</sup><span style="color:#7038F8"><small>'''''C'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:KCorp4000|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''''4000'''''</span>]] 03:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::There's a parameter for the previous/next sections in mine already. Just set "prev=no" or "next=no" and you don't have to fill out the "prev/next"-"section/name" parts. I'll try your example. | |||
<nowiki>{{User:Oz/Sandbox|game=Red|game2=Blue|prev=no|gamename=Red and Blue|next=yes|nextname=Viridian City|nextsection=2}}</nowiki> | |||
You just didn't fill my template out the right way, that's all. :P Hope it helps! --[[User:Oz|<span style="color:#800000">'''O'''</span>]][[User talk:Oz|<span style="color:#C8A2C8">'''z'''</span>]] 13:13, 8 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::I figured I just misread something. Now that I looked at it again, it makes perfect sense. ;D Looks good, I guess if you want to move it to a template page like the other one (Template:WalkthroughPrevNext, maybe call this one Template:WalkthroughPrevNextBookend or something), then we could add it to the project page with the other bar. Thanks for the help! --[[User:KCorp4000|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''''K'''''</sup><span style="color:#7038F8"><small>'''''C'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:KCorp4000|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''''4000'''''</span>]] 17:34, 8 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
==An idea== | |||
To help with the upgrade I'd like you to take a look at the alignment of the templates for the rival at [[Appendix:HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough/Section 2]], it might have some useful application to deal with some spacing problems with 2 or more templates, especially with the Team Magma/Aqua thing on Ruby and Sapphire but I am not sure. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 18:23, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Actually, that looks pretty good. It's certainly better than stacking the three possible teams (for the rival, at least) on top of each other and dragging the page out. I like it, if you want to change the Magma/Aqua around so they're spaced out horizontally rather than vertically, please go right ahead. Anything to keep this project moving. ;) --[[User:KCorp4000|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''''K'''''</sup><span style="color:#7038F8"><small>'''''C'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:KCorp4000|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''''4000'''''</span>]] 18:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::I thought it was pretty good too when I glanced over it the other week. I'm using it on my userpage, actually, haha. Anyways, should we do that with all of the variable battles, the Magma/Aqua + rivals, or just the ones where it won't get really cluttered? --[[User:Oz|<span style="color:#800000">'''O'''</span>]][[User talk:Oz|<span style="color:#C8A2C8">'''z'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oz|<sup>(The <span style="color:#01015E">Wizard</span> at Work!)</sup>]] 18:39, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::I'd say switch everything over. I think wherever we could use that would probably be better off going horizontal across the page, rather than stacked on the left side with a huge empty white space on the right side. --[[User:KCorp4000|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''''K'''''</sup><span style="color:#7038F8"><small>'''''C'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:KCorp4000|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''''4000'''''</span>]] 18:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::I think so and it will render what we have on the template for the NPC player on Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald or Diamond/Pearl/Platinum obsolete. I tried duplicating it on my sandbox but with no luck and I don't have time to do it again (I didn't save it, I only previewed it). -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 18:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::Righto, so do you want me to handle the instances in the first gen walkthroughs? I could breeze through Gary's ones pretty quicky. --[[User:Oz|<span style="color:#800000">'''O'''</span>]][[User talk:Oz|<span style="color:#C8A2C8">'''z'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oz|<sup>(The <span style="color:#01015E">Wizard</span> at Work!)</sup>]] 18:45, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::Sure, do Ruby and Sapphire too now that the rivals and Team Magma/Aqua portion of the walkthrough is complete. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 18:46, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I'll get right on it, then! :) --[[User:Oz|<span style="color:#800000">'''O'''</span>]][[User talk:Oz|<span style="color:#C8A2C8">'''z'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oz|<sup>(The <span style="color:#01015E">Wizard</span> at Work!)</sup>]] 18:50, 12 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Oh cool, I see you guys added that rival alignment to the project page, I was gonna go around and edit the other rivals in the other walkthroughs too.--<span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#C4E673">lo</span>]]</b> 01:51, 14 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
I also made a choice when doing the rival for Ruby and Sapphire, me decision was focused on not trying to use two headers for the starters when do Brendan/May. Take a look at part 1 of Ruby and Sapphire and tell me what you think. I'll leave FR/LG to you while I'll handle the reformatting with the other stuff. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:32, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:That's not bad. Actually, since it currently uses the 6 templates, maybe there's an easy way to condense the info. Since the only difference between Brendan's team and May's team are their name and sprite (and their Pokémon don't change), it might be easier to do something like this: | |||
{{Party|color={{ruby color}}|bordercolor={{sapphire color}} | |||
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}} | |||
|sprite=None.png | |||
|prize={{Pdollar}}300 | |||
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub> Trainer]] | |||
|name=May/Brendan | |||
|game={{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}} | |||
|location=[[Route 103]] | |||
|pokemon=1 | |||
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Ruby|ndex=255|pokemon=Torchic | |||
|gender=male|level=5|type1=Fire|ability=Blaze| | |||
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal||move1cat=Physical| | |||
|move2=Growl||move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}} | |||
}} | |||
:That way, it accounts for both Trainers' names, and rather than have two Trainer sprites, it just shows the "No image" pic. This should allow us to use only 3, rather than 6 templates. Nice job updating the other walkthroughs with the new templates, by the way. --[[User:KCorp4000|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''''K'''''</sup><span style="color:#7038F8"><small>'''''C'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:KCorp4000|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''''4000'''''</span>]] 04:57, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::The key issue right now is that the current template can only use one sprite, so that problem needs to be figured out. At best I did the first two encounters and I wanted to check things out first with other people before I did the other half. I'll wait to see if this problem can be fixed first. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::We could always just upload a new sprite on the archives that has both Brendan and May present. Call it, say, "BrendanMay.png" and use that as the image? --[[User:Oz|<span style="color:#800000">'''O'''</span>]][[User talk:Oz|<span style="color:#C8A2C8">'''z'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oz|<sup>(The <span style="color:#01015E">Wizard</span> at Work!)</sup>]] 05:07, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::The other brainstorm I had is use the sprites with the headers, though I don't know how it will pan out. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::I was just going to say that, Oz. ;) Unless somebody uploads a double-sprite with both Brendan and May, I don't know what else we could use. --[[User:KCorp4000|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''''K'''''</sup><span style="color:#7038F8"><small>'''''C'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:KCorp4000|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''''4000'''''</span>]] 05:11, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::To top it off this is Lucas/Dawn and to a lesser extent Gold/Kotone. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:13, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::Good point. Lucas/Dawn for sure, though I don't know about Kotone. Does she play the same role as May/Dawn, or is she not really around much? --[[User:KCorp4000|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''''K'''''</sup><span style="color:#7038F8"><small>'''''C'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:KCorp4000|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''''4000'''''</span>]] 05:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Well with Gold and Kotone it is just once for tutorial. For Lucas and Dawn it is for three times. For Brendan and May it is four on R/S and five on Emerald that this procedure has to be done. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:20, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Okay. I guess we still need the double-sprites for this to work, even if the player only fights them once. --[[User:KCorp4000|<sup style="color:#7038F8">'''''K'''''</sup><span style="color:#7038F8"><small>'''''C'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:KCorp4000|<span style="color:#7038F8">'''''4000'''''</span>]] 05:27, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
Technically it is only Brendan and May that actually fights them since the others do tutorials at the beginning of the game aside from the fact that Lucas/Dawn fight on their team. I also posted Gold and Kotone on the HG/SS walkthrough just to note. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:32, 15 January 2010 (UTC) | |||