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::What I was trying to argue is that there's a tautologic aspect, "dealing damage" is not particularly well defined (AFAIK), it's basically defined like "damage triggers <X/Y/Z>, so if <X/Y/Z> isn't triggered, it's not damage" (that might be equivalent to "damage is what uses some routine"). But that's based on observation, it's not law or something; it shouldn't be an axiom you base your deductions on. So yeah, I believe it would need to be proven independently (even though, as I said, it probably isn't different). | ::What I was trying to argue is that there's a tautologic aspect, "dealing damage" is not particularly well defined (AFAIK), it's basically defined like "damage triggers <X/Y/Z>, so if <X/Y/Z> isn't triggered, it's not damage" (that might be equivalent to "damage is what uses some routine"). But that's based on observation, it's not law or something; it shouldn't be an axiom you base your deductions on. So yeah, I believe it would need to be proven independently (even though, as I said, it probably isn't different). | ||
::Fair enough (although I think symmetry for interactions is generally a good thing). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC) | ::Fair enough (although I think symmetry for interactions is generally a good thing). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::Just to let you know, I finally managed to test this for generations III and IV, and indeed Pain Split still didn't activate Color Change. Since Kecleon isn't in generation VIII (at least yet), that pretty much settles it for now. I'll leave it up to you if you want to mention it in Pain Split's page, but if you decide to do so, I think it would be a good idea to also mention in Future Sight's and Doom Desire's pages in which generations they do/don't activate Color Change. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 01:38, 12 June 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Thanks for your help on the Pierce page == | == Thanks for your help on the Pierce page == | ||
You got exactly what I was trying to make happen to work, so thank you! I was trying to put the line in exactly the way you did but for whatever reason, it wasn't working. Thank you for fixing that. [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 06:24, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | You got exactly what I was trying to make happen to work, so thank you! I was trying to put the line in exactly the way you did but for whatever reason, it wasn't working. Thank you for fixing that. [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 06:24, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
:You're welcome! [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 12:15, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | :You're welcome! [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 12:15, 8 June 2020 (UTC) | ||