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::In any case, "can-but-shouldn't" is an assumption, true, but it's a pretty clear-cut logistical one... meanwhile, "can't-but-should" fails to acknowledge that biology is not the sole reason that the developers allow certain Pokemon to learn certain moves (game balance is another). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:37, 29 August 2016 (UTC) | ::In any case, "can-but-shouldn't" is an assumption, true, but it's a pretty clear-cut logistical one... meanwhile, "can't-but-should" fails to acknowledge that biology is not the sole reason that the developers allow certain Pokemon to learn certain moves (game balance is another). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:37, 29 August 2016 (UTC) | ||
While I can understand your point, my argument was that it was not to say "hey they should be able to learn this" but rather "while, as a new trainer, you would assume they could, here's a bit of info" and that it was merely stating fact and not implying fault with the game or design anything of the like. I also feel it ''is'' quite similar to trivia of what they can learn as both make assumptions of their capabilities based on what our perceptions of their physiology would be like based on what we know from our world that are then thrown out due to the way their world works. It's like the "Wailord is denser than air" trivia in that way, I think. I really wish I could move this discussion to forums somehow. [[User:Akarroa|Akarroa]] ([[User talk:Akarroa|talk]]) 04:59, 29 August 2016 (UTC) | While I can understand your point, my argument was that it was not to say "hey they should be able to learn this" but rather "while, as a new trainer, you would assume they could, here's a bit of info" and that it was merely stating fact and not implying fault with the game or design anything of the like. I also feel it ''is'' quite similar to trivia of what they can learn as both make assumptions of their capabilities based on what our perceptions of their physiology would be like based on what we know from our world that are then thrown out due to the way their world works. It's like the "Wailord is denser than air" trivia in that way, I think. I really wish I could move this discussion to forums somehow. [[User:Akarroa|Akarroa]] ([[User talk:Akarroa|talk]]) 04:59, 29 August 2016 (UTC) | ||
:"They should learn this" and "Might look like it should, but it doesn't" basically boils down to the same thing - assuming a Pokemon has to learn the move due to have the proper appendages. "Can but can't" isn't as assumptive as (X) "Punch" requires a fist and "Tail" (X) requires a tail. Also, there is no Wailord density trivia on its page, there's a message saying not to put it there.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:11, 30 August 2016 (UTC) | |||