User talk:PardescanSlowbro

A couple of things

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Hey

Great work with working on the anime pages, was wondering if you could take a look at a few of mine that could be mainspaced. User:BigDocFan/Toucannon's flock (anime), Mimikins, Hala's Hariyama, Hala's Crabominable, Matori's Meowth and Professor Kukui's Braviary if you get time--BigDocFan (talk) 12:34, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Not a problem, I'll take a look now. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 23:30, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

There are some pages that I feel need to wait for more to occur in the series, like Mimikins or Hala's Crabominable who generally just appear beside their Trainers, and their actions and appearances to date can simply be summarized on their respective Trainer's pages. Aside from that, the pages are looking great. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 00:39, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, doesn't hurt to create the pages, hoping that future appearances will be important to warrant a page of their own. Did you have a look at User:BigDocFan/List of Bewear rescues?--BigDocFan (talk) 08:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes I've noticed it for quite sometime. It is a running gag, and I saw that someone was working on a Team Rocket's blastoffs page, so hopefully these can get up and running. I can add to these pages from now on, given that I tend to write many of the latest plots?

Also I was thinking that Mohn and Lusamine might need separate anime pages, especially with much of the stuff revealed in SM116 being background info. I'd recently added pre-series sections to their "in the anime" sections, but these were just deleted by GrammarFreak01 without any notice or explanation. I haven't seen pre-series subsections for other in-game character pages like Gym Leaders or Elite Four members, even if a past event is mentioned, so I'm guessing this might be the reason for that action. Even so, many of Sun and Moon's anime characters, including those based on the games, have appeared more frequently and with greater depth than many past series.

I'd leave the Island kahunas, Burnet, Faba and Wicke out at the moment, even though they have appeared in more than three episodes because I feel they would probably need another 2-3 major plot features to justify a separate anime page. Your thoughts?PardescanSlowbro (talk) 08:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Not my page but we have a work in progress for Lusamine, User:Riox-Ibui/Lusamine (anime) - unsigned comment from BigDocFan (talk • contribs)

At least that one is covered. Thank for the link to that page, I wasn't aware of that user or any of their created pages. We really need a directory of all of these works in progress to be able to keep a tab on what is being done and by who.PardescanSlowbro (talk) 09:33, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

"I haven't seen pre-series subsections for other in-game character pages like Gym Leaders or Elite Four members, even if a past event is mentioned, so I'm guessing this might be the reason for that action." Yes, pretty much. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 20:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the confirmation GrammarFreak01. As you are already aware I have added a pre-series subsection to Riox-Ibui's Lusamine (anime) page, and I will begin a Mohn (anime) page soon. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 23:23, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure if a Mohn (anime) article is needed, seeing as he's appeared in flashbacks so far. Outside of that, Cynthia and Looker, for example, have appeared in multiple episodes of two different series and they don't have separate articles for their anime incarnations. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:04, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Good ideas there. I'll review Cynthia and Looker's respective anime appearances sometime soon, and hopefully get a start on those new pages. Thanks.PardescanSlowbro (talk) 00:39, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Maybe you should discuss those ideas with an admin first. I feel like there was a reason we didn't have those kinds of articles in the first place. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 04:12, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Annice Moriarty origin

Hello Nobody has been able to explain to me, so perhaps you could help me understand this. Where id dpeople get the idea that Annice Moriarty and Kether Donohue were the same person, despite no official confirmation? I am leaving out a whole lot of info I do have on Ann because I don't want my bias to show, given certain factors existing. I mean Candice is listed as being voiced by Kether Donohue in Bulbapedia, but on TV credits no such person is on the episode. Now that's not to say that Donohue didn't work on Pokemon as she likely did if she remembers being on Pokemon doing somebody. However it's poor form for people to assume that Annice Moriarty and Kether Donohue were the same person, especially what happened with the Caren Manuel, Alyson Johnson and Kathleen Delaney thing. What happened there was people thought that Kathleen Delaney and Allyson Johnson were pseudonyms of Caren Manuel/Caren Lyn Tackett. Hence the long-time belief that Manuel voiced Rouge the Bat (4kids dub of all Sonic media during 2003-2010)and Agatha from season 8 of Pokemon. I'm frustrated quite a bit at the lack of explanation as to why it is that people believed Annice Moriarty and Kether Donohue to be the same person. Where did they get this from? I also want to note that just because a belief is long-held does not make it true. Again I do have info on Ann, but I can't prove it yet and Ann doesn't have social media anymore for now, I can't link y'all to her. I'm just asking where did it come from, that Donohue, a Caucasian woman used the name Annice Moriarty?

Annice by the way is pronounced as Ann-nih-say. It is a Malagasy name. I won't say anymore as I do have a slight bias, but I just wish to shine a light on the sources that we get pseudonym information from not just given my sister Ann, but also given the Caren Lyn Manuel/Kathleen Delaney/Allyson Johnson thing. Any help in understanding where this came form and why it was accepted so long with no real proof would be great. This way when I correct it I know what to correct without my bias being in play. thanks. African Vulture (talk) 23:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't work in the voice actors space, and won't be able to offer you any insight. A quick search didn't yield any answers either. As said by ForceFire, documented proof from either actress would help confirm your suspicions. BigDocFan may be of assistance? PardescanSlowbro (talk) 23:50, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

BDF hasn't answered me neither, I'm not saying he's unhelpful just that he hasn' tidentified a source. I agree with FF that there needs to be proof. I want to start another discussion with BDF but am affraid it will divert again. It's difficult approaching it without showing my bias, whcih I am doing my best here. That's why I will no longe redit those articles at all, but I will instead push for discussions not just on Ann, but on pseudonym verifications in general. Do you thin that would be a fiar approach? African Vulture (talk) 00:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm afraid discussion posts don't get the attention they may deserve. It is best to leave it, as frustrating as that may be, until either you or someone else has new evidence to present to an admin like ForceFire who would be able to verify, and thus allow any changes to go forward.PardescanSlowbro (talk) 00:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

It's just strange having my sister's name associated with a Caucasian women, if I may be totally honest. However I am doing my level best to not have that be a factor in the general discussion about pseydonym verification. I hope to be able to expand my knowledge of Pokemon so I can do more than just a one-purpose account thing. My original purpose was to stop this unsourced and untrue claim about Ann, but decided to maybe learn about Pokemon, and maybe help out where Bulbapedia needs help. thanks. African Vulture (talk) 01:10, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I can understand the racial appropriation argument, as it was present in many of the internet forums regarding this case. Is it possible your sister could make contact with Kether Donohue? If they appeared in a video together to address the controversy, or if the dubbing company was able to confirm details for Bulbapedia, either of those would be a big piece of evidence that would help prove your point. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 01:20, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Ann's going to be fre ein August, I know she's doing some stuff here in Africa right now. She's helping out with Mozambique right now, as they just went through a horrible storm. When Ann is back in NY I hope she will take this suggestion, I will forward it to her. I don't know who to reach out to at duart, nor am I sure if Ann remembers who to reach out to, but we will do our best. I posted on BDF's page about verification of pseudonyms in the future to avoid cases like this. thanks African Vulture (talk) 01:41, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to use your talk page about this PardescanSlowbro. I have four things to say

1 I've adviced you in the past which you haven't listened to.

2 I'm trying not to get involved.

3 You posted at 00:20 GMT so I was in bed.--BigDocFan (talk) 08:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Horacio's Vikavolt

Was wondering if you could give me a hand with User:BigDocFan/Horacio's Vikavolt please?--BigDocFan (talk) 15:40, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Grandpa Forest

Sorry to keep disturbing you, was wondering if you could assist with User:BigDocFan/Grandpa Forest--BigDocFan (talk) 12:19, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

By the looks of it, the page is looking succinct and requires minimal changes. PardescanSlowbro (talk) 13:19, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks--BigDocFan (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2019 (UTC)