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== Just wondering... ==
== Just wondering... ==
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::::what happened? hmm.. in my browser. it seems okay it has no error or anything...--[[User:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#D5AA00">''GASPER''</span>]][[User talk:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small><sup>''shut...''</sup></small></span>]] 09:13, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
::::what happened? hmm.. in my browser. it seems okay it has no error or anything...--[[User:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#D5AA00">''GASPER''</span>]][[User talk:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small><sup>''shut...''</sup></small></span>]] 09:13, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::Is your browser APNG compliant? Do APNGs actually animate for you browser-side, or do they appear static? - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 09:15, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::Is your browser APNG compliant? Do APNGs actually animate for you browser-side, or do they appear static? - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 09:15, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
:they actually animate, even if I upload them in the photobucket it is okay. Even in the Opera browser, it seems okay...--[[User:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#D5AA00">''GASPER''</span>]][[User talk:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small><sup>''shut...''</sup></small></span>]] 23:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::they actually animate, even if I upload them in the photobucket it is okay. Even in the Opera browser, it seems okay...--[[User:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#D5AA00">''GASPER''</span>]][[User talk:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small><sup>''shut...''</sup></small></span>]] 23:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Could you upload a few to your photobucket album and link me to them here? {{bp|staff|We}} will review the images and see if the issue is limited to specific browsers, users, or if there's some other issue at hand going on. Until we can figure out what the underlying issue actually is, however, I must ask that you do not upload any APNG images to the Archives. Just to be safe. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 00:19, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::: [http://s430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/gaspershut/Trial/] take alook--[[User:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#D5AA00">''GASPER''</span>]][[User talk:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small><sup>''shut...''</sup></small></span>]] 08:27, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::There's definitely a bug in the sprites. I suspected the way the first frame is set up, but japng is giving me an error when I try and open those sprites. It's not the program because other apngs open fine in it - the sprites themselves contain bugs. May I ask what program it is that you're making them in, and how you're handling the still first frame? If the first frame is set to 0ms (rather than skipped completely), it could potentially be a loading or display issue as Firefox tries to display it and then the subsequent frame but can't keep up. I'm not sure how the extension for Chrome works, but I'm guessing that whatever conversion it does is smoothing out the transition, hiding the flaw. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 09:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::: [http://s430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/gaspershut/?action=view&current=Wallace.png] check this, I've edited some of the this you've said and tried to tweak it, and it is okay now at firefox.. try and see it.. THANK YOU! I will now upload it after editing it all and check it first at firefox before uploading it!!!--[[User:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#D5AA00">''GASPER''</span>]][[User talk:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small><sup>''shut...''</sup></small></span>]] 09:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::: May I ask if I will upload new sprites for Black 2 and White 2 or I will just upload a new version (which is animated) in the old static sprites of Black and White version.--[[User:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#D5AA00">''GASPER''</span>]][[User talk:Gaspershut|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small><sup>''shut...''</sup></small></span>]] 12:28, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
==New Template==
Since I have noticed that you have done tons of editing for templates.  I have created a new [[User:Lady Ariel/Pokéstar Pokémon Infobox|template]] that needs fixed terribly.  It is for the [[Pokéstar Studios opponents|Pokéstar Studios Pokémon]] page. If it would be possible to not resize the sprites in the template that would be great.  There should only be the type, name, ability (which would only be one), and the image.  I don't know if the gender section would be needed given they all have a set gender or no gender. [[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] ([[User talk:Lady Ariel|talk]]) 20:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
:For what reasons do you feel that an infobox would be better than what's already present on the page? - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 06:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
::None, because I realized that this was fixed after I posted this message.  Could you delete that page with the template I was working on, please? [[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] ([[User talk:Lady Ariel|talk]]) 16:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Sounds good, the template has been deleted. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 06:38, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 
== Mike ==
 
Librio1999 aka LegandofThor2 is vandalizing and edit warring the [[Mike]] page{{tt|*|the redirect version}}. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 18:07, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
:Arc just took care of the user. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 20:46, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 
== Remove non-existent user - Minecraft246 ==
 
Could you look at the {{redlink|User_talk:Minecraft246}} page and remove it?  It is just a redirect and I do not have the ability to. [[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:27, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
:Redirect deleted. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 21:43, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 
== Route infobox ==
 
In the route infobox template, can you change the file name format for the Area-Highlighted Town Maps (under Location)? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 19:46, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
:Do the same with the infobox location template. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 23:44, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
::Route infobox has been updated. Location infobox has been using png since January. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 23:57, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
:::The spacing between the word Route and the number of the route is missing in said updated template. The word map needs to be capitalized in the location infobox. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:01, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
 
== Thank you very much ==
 
For fixing those files in my sandbox. [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] ([[User talk:Random Chaos|talk]]) 14:30, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 
== FRLG Leaf.gif ==
 
Can you replace this file with [[a:File:Leaf FRLG Credits.png]]? Your userpage is protected :s [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:14, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
:Little late to reply, but {{u|Jo The Marten}} handled it. Watch how you direct link to file pages, that link was causing an issue with the Wanted Pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 06:11, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
 
== user templates ==
 
Do you know why the user templates are protected? The only reason given is high traffic page, but then there are some image links needing a change due to the project. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
:User tag templates are commonly used on multiple user pages. Editing templates used on multiple pages generally causes server stress. To avoid causing server stress because of disagreements with coloring, default sprite, or even the wording of a user tag, user tags are protected and require staff approval to be changed. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 05:18, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
::That explains the high traffic page reasoning. You're aware about the file name changes so there wouldn't be that much requesting going on. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:44, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 
== The mysterious Project Overgrow ==
 
Is Phase V of {{bp|Project Overgrow}} still going to happen, or has it been canceled? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
:When news regarding Phase V is available, the page will be updated. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 12:10, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
::I haven't heard anything about Project Overgrow since 2010. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 15:16, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 
== Infobox game template update ==
 
The problems were foreseen, I told Werdnae that the change in the parameters' names would require updating all articles. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 15:14, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
:The parameter name changes were not part of the noted unforeseen issues, but they are issues nevertheless. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 00:07, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 
== Help ! ! ==
 
Hello,
 
{{tt|Est-ce que je peux te déranger un instant ?|Can I bother you for a while ? Note:I natively speak French...}} I made a lot of edits but they're all reverted !!! I try to make more (but this time not reverted), but however all what I know is already here !!<br />
<small>P.S: I don't worry if you'll not be able to answer directly, I'm gonna wait :) !</small>
 
[[User:Reshilosion360|<font color="darkblue">Reshi</font><font color="darkgreen">losion</font><font color="darkred">360</font>]] [[User talk:Reshilosion360|<sup><font color="gray">Reshi-Talk here</font></sup>]] 13:20, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 
== Really Sorry ==
 
Oh!  I didn't realize that those were the offical english names.  I'm so sorry about that.
-Osterpizza {{unsigned|Osterpizza}}
 
== Berry tag sprites from Generation III ==
 
See [[User talk:RexRacer#Berry tag sprites from Generation III|this section]] for more information. I'm just asking whether or not I may upload the Generation III Berry tag sprites and what filename they should be under. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:41, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
:I can't really see much of a point to having the Gen III Berry tag images, other than the e-Reader Berries. If you can convince me they'd have some reasonable use, I may change my mind. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 11:24, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
::All I see is if they can split up the ridiculously large BerryInfobox, then it may have a place there. If we suddenly got an article on {{red link|Berry tags}} than they would be useful. Otherwise they would sit around like the Dream World art of the Berries. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 15:24, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 
== Progress ==
 
All of the files relating with the trainer sprites have been changed. The only ones left are in the pages that are protected. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 03:09, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
:Alright, they'll be dealt with soon and then the deletion stage will begin. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 11:24, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 
==what source?==
guies, either tell me what kinda source you're talking about, or don't harass me. i'm not sure what you mean by a "source you can confirm." are you saying you're goldish? i need some clairidy. don't undo my edit again because i'm going through enough crap right now and i don't need more drama. please leave the page alone for now. [[User:Christian Woods| Christian ]] [[Azumarill|Woods]] [[mew|Happy Hunger games!]] [[User talk:Christian Woods|mmkay?]] 04:05, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
:Before getting to the matter of your edits, you need to drop that attitude immediately. Accusing people of harassing you, especially when they are following policy to the very letter, is not acceptable. You've been told about the {{bp|code of conduct}} before, and now another member of the {{bp|Editorial Board}} is telling you that you '''must''' follow this policy.
:Now, onto your edits. ''You need to provide a source that a member of staff can verify.'' You have made multiple claims to have spoken to different VAs, or relatives of VAs, and have refused to give us any information that can be used to confirm that the people you're speaking to are in fact the individuals they're claiming to be. Identity fraud is rampant on the internet, and it's unwise to just believe someone claiming to be a certain individual. If the information cannot be verified as reliable, it cannot be added. Unless you're going to give us the information needed to verify the sources, your additions will continue to be removed. Continued addition of unverified information is another violation of policy and can and will result in hefty blocks. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 07:12, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 
Hold on! look, watch the episodes will you? status means nothing to me, i  don't care if you're jesus christ himself. i did source my edit to goldish's article, and goldish does not voice jenny she voices the mother. did you not watch the episode? she's in the credits, but not in the movie, mmkay? and anyway, what's your source for her not doing annie proctor? [[User:Christian Woods| Christian ]] [[Azumarill|Woods]] [[mew|Happy Hunger games!]] [[User talk:Christian Woods|mmkay?]] 19:45, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 
== I want to change my name to BlazeTheMovieFan. ==
 
TheBlazikenMater was my Internet name a long time ago, it's now BlazeTheMovieFan. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 02:28, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
:After discussion, we'd like to be sure you plan to stay around and be an editor again for a while before performing this name change for you. If you're just going to use your account to make an occasional edit and dominantly just view the wiki, it would really make little difference whether your username is '''TheBlazikenMaster''' or '''BlazeTheMovieFan'''. Due to the server extensive nature of name changes, we need to be sure that the user will give back an equivalent level of assistance to our encyclopedic content at the time of their name change. I hope you understand, - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 10:56, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
::To be entirely honest, I don't think there are many major edits I can do since this website already has all the information I can find about Pokémon and more. But I understand. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 14:58, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
:::It's not really just about major edits, minor edits are quite helpful too. What we just want to see is a reasonable level of continued contribution activity, be it from major or minor edits. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 22:35, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
::::So let me get this straight. If I make a lot of edits on this website, and do it regularly, my name is gonna be changed? Very well, I think I can do that.
 
::::I have a question, does reverting edits count as well? (I doubt it, but I'm not sure.) [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 22:55, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::That's the basic idea, yes. Though, the editing does need to be helpful and comply with policy. Reverts also count, as long as they're for the betterment of the encyclopedia. Just to note, though, (as some have attempted this in the past) adding something over multiple edits, or adding something and reverting yourself won't be considered helpful activity and will only serve to get you in trouble. But I don't expect you would do anything like that. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 23:20, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well, you might have noticed that I have been reverted a few times, and I'm totally ok with that. Instead of reverting the revert I just leave it alone.
::::::I also noticed that some people have been mentioning the preview button. Don't worry, if I do major edits, I will be using that.
::::::Yeah, I think I'm fully back to Bulbapedia. I'd love to watch some pages, but the watch function isn't working right now for some reason. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 00:20, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 
==source found==
hahahahahahahaahahahahahaha! no source? http://www.memorial-gardens.org/memorial/Henrietta-Million
[[User:Christian Woods| Christian ]] [[Azumarill|Woods]] [[mew|Happy Hunger games!]] [[User talk:Christian Woods|mmkay?]] 23:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 
also can you please leave me alone for a short while? i'm pretty angry with you so i ask that you in particular just back off for now while i calm down about you. ok betty (flinstones reference)
[[User:Christian Woods| Christian ]] [[Azumarill|Woods]] [[mew|Happy Hunger games!]] [[User talk:Christian Woods|mmkay?]] 23:57, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
:I find it quite funny how that "memorial" has "been there for over a year now", yet that very memorial didn't exist a mere ten minutes ago when I checked that same URL. Also funny how you complained on your BMGf blog '''only yesterday''' that the very site you're sourcing to removed that memorial when written by "Hudson Million", now it's back under the author of "Andre Million". Your stories don't mesh, Christian.
 
:Additionally, I will not leave you alone while you constantly violate Bulbapedia policy. As a member of the {{bp|Editorial Board}}, it is my job to make sure that all users, including yourself, follow policy. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 00:02, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 
let's keep in mind my server is messy, i have been having internet probloms lately, so maybe that blog was just an error on my part. [[User:Christian Woods| Christian ]] [[Azumarill|Woods]] [[mew|Happy Hunger games!]] [[User talk:Christian Woods|mmkay?]] 00:09, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
===please back off for a while===
ok, now, i am very upset with you over this blocking stuff and refusal to tell me what you call a reliable source you can verify so I will ask that you back off from me for a little while.  i don't mean every admin has to back off, i just want you, kogoro to just stay away from me for a little while, ok? [[User:Christian Woods| Christian ]] [[Azumarill|Woods]] [[mew|Happy Hunger games!]] [[User talk:Christian Woods|mmkay?]] 00:09, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 
it doesn't matter if you're from the editorial board or not, i don't want you bothering me, and this is the last i want to hear from you at least for a short while. i don't care if you get another editorial board member on me, i just want you to back off at least for let's say 14 days? anywhere from 7 to 14 days while i look into this issue with memorialgardens a little more and i'll figure it out. 
as of this moment, kogoro has no reason to bother me for at least 7 to 14 days, unless she is kim possible, which is not likely so she has no reason people. please, back off, for the good of bulbapedia, back off, for 7 to 14 days, maybe someone else can follow me but not kogoro, as of now, her and i are in a kim possible and Shego nemecis relationship status. [[User:Christian Woods| Christian ]] [[Azumarill|Woods]] [[mew|Happy Hunger games!]] [[User talk:Christian Woods|mmkay?]] 00:17, 12 December 2012 (UTC)