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<span style="color:#{{arceus color dark}};"><big><big>★</big></big></span> There are currently <big><big>{{cat|Pages which still use the old learnset templates|{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Pages which still use the old learnset templates}}}}</big></big> pages that still use the old learnset templates. Please update them to the newer templates. <br>
<span style="color:#{{arceus color dark}};"><big><big>★</big></big></span>The [[a:Main page|Archives]] are <span style="color:green">'''OPEN'''</span><br>[[File:Project Sidegames logo.png|80px|right|link=Bulbapedia:Project Sidegames|Seriously guys, it's pretty dark and lonely here :'(]]
<span style="color:#{{arceus color dark}};"><big><big>★</big></big></span>The [[a:Main page|Archives]] are <span style="color:green">'''OPEN'''</span><br>[[File:Project Sidegames logo.png|80px|right|link=Bulbapedia:Project Sidegames|Seriously guys, it's pretty dark and lonely here :'(]]
<span style="color:#{{arceus color dark}};"><big><big>★</big></big></span>Have you considered uploading Generation V sprites? Bulbapedia is still missing quite a few of them.<br>
<span style="color:#{{arceus color dark}};"><big><big>★</big></big></span>Have you considered uploading Generation V sprites? Bulbapedia is still missing quite a few of them.<br>
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==Welcome==
==Welcome==
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==Personal Images==
==Personal Images==


Well... so could you delete this file      [[:File:Ash's Charizard.gif]]    ? Now I have only two personal images! And why did you delete the '''file:Charizard fire furious.png''' ? It used to be in the Charizard's main article, but someone replace it to put a picture of a fight between Charizard and Articuno, when should be the file before that I uploaded(some admin said that!). Can I reupload and replace the file?
Well... so could you delete this file      [[a:File:Ash's Charizard.gif]]    ? Now I have only two personal images! And why did you delete the '''file:Charizard fire furious.png''' ? It used to be in the Charizard's main article, but someone replace it to put a picture of a fight between Charizard and Articuno, when should be the file before that I uploaded(some admin said that!). Can I reupload and replace the file?


PS: I wrote that here because I could not do it in BulbaGarden wiki. So Sorry for that.
PS: I wrote that here because I could not do it in BulbaGarden wiki. So Sorry for that.
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''[[User:DoTheWave|<span style="color:#A8A878;"><big>D</big>o</span>]][[User talk:DoTheWave|<span style="color:#6890F0;">The</span>]][[Wigglytuff (Jungle 16)|<span style="color:#A8A878;">Wave</span>]]'' 23:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
''[[User:DoTheWave|<span style="color:#A8A878;"><big>D</big>o</span>]][[User talk:DoTheWave|<span style="color:#6890F0;">The</span>]][[Wigglytuff (Jungle 16)|<span style="color:#A8A878;">Wave</span>]]'' 23:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
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:#Be actively involved in the cleanup and expansion of Bulbapedia.
:#Be actively involved in the cleanup and expansion of Bulbapedia.
:Unfortunately, you currently fail all of them. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:20, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:Unfortunately, you currently fail all of them. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:20, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::Psst, [[Talk:List_of_Pokémon_by_egg_group|regarding the fifth criterion...]] : ) [[User:Hexagon Theory|Hexagon Theory]] 06:25, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::Psst, {{redlink|Talk:List_of_Pokémon_by_egg_group|regarding the fifth criterion...}} : ) [[User:Hexagon Theory|Hexagon Theory]] 06:25, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::You forgot 6. Don't ask to  be one. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#FF6600">Darkeiya</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#00CCFF">talk to me!</span>]]''</small> 06:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::You forgot 6. Don't ask to  be one. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#FF6600">Darkeiya</span>]]''' <small>''[[User talk:Darkeiya|<span style="color:#00CCFF">talk to me!</span>]]''</small> 06:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Hexagon Theory. I added color to the page [[List of Pokémon by egg group]]. {{unsigned|Cool649}}


== Regarding Generation V sprites... ==
== Regarding Generation V sprites... ==
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So, I set up a convenient macro system to upload the Generation V sprites fairly rapidly only to eventually consider that perhaps the earlier Pokémon had been left empty on purpose; I imagine you're planning to eventually have all the G5 stuff be [[http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html APNG]], no? —<font face="Times New Roman">'''[[User:Hexagon Theory|<span style="color:#ab2742;">hexagon</span>]][[User_talk:Hexagon Theory|<span style="color:#60809f;">THEORY</span>]]'''</font> 15:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
So, I set up a convenient macro system to upload the Generation V sprites fairly rapidly only to eventually consider that perhaps the earlier Pokémon had been left empty on purpose; I imagine you're planning to eventually have all the G5 stuff be [[http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html APNG]], no? —<font face="Times New Roman">'''[[User:Hexagon Theory|<span style="color:#ab2742;">hexagon</span>]][[User_talk:Hexagon Theory|<span style="color:#60809f;">THEORY</span>]]'''</font> 15:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:It's actually fine to upload them static, but yeah, eventually we do plan on having them be apng. What macro system are you using? I would love it if everything uploaded by itself too. It's actually pretty tiresome to upload all these sprites manually, hence why we're still missing quite a few of them. Anyways, whatever you're doing, keep on doing it, it's really helpful. Thanks! <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 16:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:It's actually fine to upload them static, but yeah, eventually we do plan on having them be apng. What macro system are you using? I would love it if everything uploaded by itself too. It's actually pretty tiresome to upload all these sprites manually, hence why we're still missing quite a few of them. Anyways, whatever you're doing, keep on doing it, it's really helpful. Thanks! <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 16:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm, it's a tad off-putting that you're okay with static even though you intend to eventually have animated; it makes it seem as if you reckon that day is rather far off—speaking personally, I imagine the spriting community will have everything done in a month. Either way, I don't mind uploading the statics and will continue to do so after a short nap. The macro is written using AutoHotKey, which is a small program that lets you "talk" to your computer in all sorts of ways. Essentially, I'm having a user JavaScript file run in the background, pluck out the relevant data (back or front, number, male/female, shiny) from the filename being uploaded and having it fill in the description accordingly. Then, I'm using that same information to concatenate the filename required to grab the requisite sprite from my machine; I'm putting that data into a dummy input field so that AHK can simulate a click and copy; from there, AHK simply "clicks" the blank upload field, simulates a paste and Enter to submit the form, then the file is uploaded. The only kink I ran into is having it know which blank file it should try to upload next; seeing as how there is so much variation due to some files being uploaded already and others not, as well as some Pokémon having gender differences, the script has to simulate going back two pages to determine the next red link to click. From there, it starts the process all over again. : ) It's really rather endearing to watch it work, but it's still quite a bummer that I don't have restricted FTP access of some sort; the entire Generation V set of sprites could be updated in no more than two or three minutes. —<font face="Times New Roman">'''[[User:Hexagon Theory|<span style="color:#ab2742;">hexagon</span>]][[User_talk:Hexagon Theory|<span style="color:#60809f;">THEORY</span>]]'''</font> 17:05, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Huh, that's really interesting, although a bit complicated. About the static sprites, it's better to have ''something'' rather than nothing, right? The spriting community animates in .gif anyway, so we'd still be stuck converting them to apng. Not many people know how to animate in the apng format, so it's usually one person doing them all. Not many people upload either. FTP access would make this a hundred times easier, but you know how wikis are. :P Thanks for explaining things. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 17:31, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Only the description I put to it is complicated; essentially, it's a computer being made to do something exactly the way a human would, only slightly more efficiently. : ) Regarding static, yes, I suppose anything's better than a blank space. Now, on the matter of converting, I can deduce from the way you spoke there that the administration here at Bulbapedia doesn't consist of a single programmer; this notion utterly baffles me. Rest assured, when the time comes, I'd be happy to make perl turn all the .gif files into APNGs automagically. ^_^ —<font face="Times New Roman">'''[[User:Hexagon Theory|<span style="color:#ab2742;">hexagon</span>]][[User_talk:Hexagon Theory|<span style="color:#60809f;">THEORY</span>]]'''</font> 17:41, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm not really a programmer per say but I can usually understand the gist of it, haha. I think we have 2 tech guys who who work on the server side, and besides from the Editor in Chief himself, I don't think anyone else has access to the servers. I actually did find a little tool to convert the .gifs to apng but it only does one file at a time, sadly. Great to have a programmer on board on this wiki though, can't wait to see what you come up with next. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 18:18, 13 November 2010 (UTC)