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 First of all. {{bp|Code of Conduct}}. Don't assume bad faith and accuse other user's actions as "petty" or "trolling", neither of which was what GrammarFreak01 was doing. It was clearly not trolling nor an act of petty. The only petty one here is you, Playerking. Reverting such trivial and minor edits because '''''you''''' doing like it? Grow up, princess. You're not special, nor will you be given special treatment, and it is not fine to rudely accuse others of trolling. You don't make the rules here. Secondly, users are free to interject and give their opinions, as long as they keep it civil. Again, you don't make the rules here, if you don't want to read what others have to say, you have the choice of ignoring it completely. Simple. Thirdly, GrammarFreak01's edits were totally fine and were not unnecessary, in fact, they were better than what they were before. The continuous reversion was however, and your refusal to take it to the user that reverted you rather than reverting them back is a common problem for you ''for years''. So I suggest you start picking up the habit of going to the talk page first before even thinking about clicking on that undo button.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 14:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
-::::::::::::Okay, first, don't call me princess, again, ever. And I NEVER said that I'm special, because I'm not talking about only my edits, which I have mentioned multiple times before, so if you read that, you would know that. And no the edit was not better it was the same and I'm not being petty, I'm sticking to my principals, because edits should not be changed when they are the exact same thing and it is rude to to interject into other conversations, when the conversation wasn't aimed at anyone else. I'll ignore it, because quite frankly, they shouldn't be there, so the way I set it, they're not there in my eyes. And that's what you want me to do, so I'm doing it and I promise, I won't complain about all of these edits again. And when it comes to assuming things, people do it here all the time and since both edits were basically the same, I was just expressing my opinion that to change something that was fine in the first place, minus some a few mistakes, has to have a reason behind it and I don't want to call it petty, but that's the only reason that it seems to be. I bet that If I were to change blocks of text by rewording it and correcting some mistakes, I would be told off, because quite honestly, it seems like I'm being targeted. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:05, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
+:Okay, first, don't call me princess, again, ever. And I NEVER said that I'm special, because I'm not talking about only my edits, which I have mentioned multiple times before, so if you read that, you would know that. And no the edit was not better it was the same and I'm not being petty, I'm sticking to my principals, because edits should not be changed when they are the exact same thing and it is rude to to interject into other conversations, when the conversation wasn't aimed at anyone else. I'll ignore it, because quite frankly, they shouldn't be there, so the way I set it, they're not there in my eyes. And that's what you want me to do, so I'm doing it and I promise, I won't complain about all of these edits again. And when it comes to assuming things, people do it here all the time and since both edits were basically the same, I was just expressing my opinion that to change something that was fine in the first place, minus some a few mistakes, has to have a reason behind it and I don't want to call it petty, but that's the only reason that it seems to be. I bet that If I were to change blocks of text by rewording it and correcting some mistakes, I would be told off, because quite honestly, it seems like I'm being targeted. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:05, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
+::Well, if you're going to act like a brat, I'm going to have to be harsher. I'm no grammar king, but I can clearly see that the sentence is much better now, as it doesn't look so run on and non stop, like there's no pauses in between the sentences. You are clearly refusing to accept that you might and ''are'' wrong in this situation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 16:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
+:::Ouch? I don't even know what sentence you are referring to, but regardless, I'm not refusing to accept anything, because the fact that I am wrong in this situation isn't actually a fact at all, but just an opinion, and sicne we clearly disagree, lets just leave at that. And can you really call me bratty after you called me "princess"? Hypocrisy. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 16:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
+::::Wow. Do you even hear yourself? I was going to stay out of it after my first comment but PlayerKing you are being the biggest hypocrite. I mean even your first message had hypocritical language. Please just try to accept not everything works out.[[User:Pikablu|Pikablu]] ([[User talk:Pikablu|talk]]) 16:28, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
+:::::Oh I do and I know that any hypocrisy that I used was because I was sticking to my principals because I didn't start this editing war. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 16:32, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
+::::::I'm referring to the Takeru and Mairin sentences... what other sentences would I be referring to? Read the previous version and the version it is now. Tell me what the difference is when you read it out loud. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 16:44, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
+:::::::Sorry that I just came in the conversation, but Playerking, it doesn't really matter who began the editing war. It matters the most who stopped in time and who accepted the other was right, ''or'' used good arguments, which ''really'' matter. It's just like a real-live fight. It doesn't matter who began. [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 12:02, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+== "This is different" ==
+Why is it?[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:04, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+:Because they are dub only and not actually fully confirmed, which makes it notable. You really need to '''read''' the trivia carefully, because they are very clearly separate from what you're thinking of. Nowhere in those trivia did it say it was '''officially confirmed'''.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+::Well why not then, it's like having unsourced facts on a page and just expecting people to take the page's word for it.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:11, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+:::In addition I don't like the way you use the word "notable" you are saying it as if it's fact when there is no objective way to determine notability.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:12, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+::::What are you on about? The dub clearly gave them gender pronouns in their respective episodes, but it doesn't make them official since the original Japanese version doesn't say such things. That's what makes it notable, when the dub takes liberties in adding gender pronouns. Don't be difficult for the sake of being difficult.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:16, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+:::::You haven't addressed the issue of the fact that it's unsourced facts. How does the dub adding pronouns make it "notable" please provided objective criteria and not your biased opinion.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:19, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+::::::How is it unsourced facts? Watch the god damn '''episodes'''. Did you read that clearly? '''EPISODES'''. Is it really that hard to comprehend?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:22, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+(resetting indent)It's clearly unsourced facts as it's not on the page, WATCH THE EPISODES well which one? Simple say it on the page don't just expect people to take the word of it. Saying you can find it by watching the episdoes is not good enough as that's like Wikipedia having unsourced facts and saying read the author's original work, well which author and which piece of work?[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:26, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+:... I... just... really? Which episodes? The god damn trivia lists the episodes. Are you even '''reading''' the god damn trivia? Or are you just removing them because you're still salty about your Leavanny trivia being removed? Because that is clearly why you removed them, or else you would;ve actually '''read''' and '''seen''' the difference.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:32, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+::How dense can you be Ratchet? Every single trivia point refers to AT LEAST one episode that the Pokemon was referred to using gender-specific pronouns (which ForceFire mentioned before I posted), AND they say if it was a dub or Japanese episode. Do you just enjoy coming on every couple of months and making a mess for the sake of arguing? [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 13:34, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+::: Watch all the episodes that would take hours and imagine all the filler. Ok Leavanny for example watch all the episodes from when it first appeared that would take a long time when it could take a few seconds if it is stated on this site. If it isn't on the page then it isn't sourced.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:41, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+::::You clearly did not read what I just said. You are clearly being difficult. You are clearly being stubborn. You are clearly salty about the Leavanny reversion. You are clearly refusing to actually read what is being said. '''The trivia lists the episodes.''' Why would you need to watch countless episodes if the trivia already '''gives''' you the god. damn. episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:45, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+:::::What about Brock's Sudowoodo it states it's male but doesn't say how + when so it is essentially an unsourced fact. From what you are saying I and anyone else who wants to find out should watch every episode in which it appears. That could take days so it should have a note saying when it was confirmed. You are being equally stubborn and at least on Ash's Leavanny that note would then allow visitors to know exactly which episode to watch.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:52, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+::::::You're not reading what I'm saying. Where did I say that you have to watch all the episodes? I said: <big>'''THE TRIVIA LISTS THE EPISODES.'''</big> Why would you blindly watch several episodes when the '''TRIVIA ALREADY GIVES YOU THE EPISODE YOU NEED'''. Are you actually '''READING''' the trivia? Because right now, you're just being difficult for the sake of being difficult. Also, '''read the history section of Brock's Sudowoodo. It's right there. Near the end where it talks about it's battle with Nurse Joy's Chansey in [[SS025]], of which the SS025 trivia states was the episode Sudowoodo's gender was revealed'''. Keyword here being <big>'''READ'''.</big>--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 14:02, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
+==Re:Lysandre's Gyarados==
+Ok I understand.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]03:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)