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== Linkage ==
== Linkage ==


On episode articles featuring first-stage Pokémon (i.e.: Froakie) that appeared in flashbacks but already evolved several episodes ago, would it be okay to link it to the form it's currently in on the list of Pokémon that appeared in the episode so Ash's Froakie's flashback appearance in [[XY085]] occurred way after it evolved meaning I could link it to Frogadier's page, or would that still count as spoilers? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 03:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
On episode articles featuring first-stage Pokémon (i.e.: Froakie) that appeared in flashbacks but already evolved several episodes ago, would it be okay to link it to the form it's currently in on the list of Pokémon that appeared in the episode so Ash's Froakie's flashback appearance in [[XY086]] occurred way after it evolved meaning I could link it to Frogadier's page, or would that still count as spoilers? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 03:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
:Yes, since it's not really much of a spoiler.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:31, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
:Yes, since it's not really much of a spoiler.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:31, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
::It was something done like [[Special:Diff/2325778|this]] by the way. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 03:40, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
::It was something done like [[Special:Diff/2325778|this]] by the way. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 03:40, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
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::Buuuuut if you'd prefer it linked simply to [[Ash Ketchum]], then I'll remove the HTML tags. '''<span style="color:#F85888;">—<small>★</small></span>[[User:Reshii|<span style="color:#EE99AC;">レシイラム</span>]]'''<sup>'''[[User talk:Reshii|<span style="color:#F16A81;">talk</span>]]'''</sup> 06:49, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
::Buuuuut if you'd prefer it linked simply to [[Ash Ketchum]], then I'll remove the HTML tags. '''<span style="color:#F85888;">—<small>★</small></span>[[User:Reshii|<span style="color:#EE99AC;">レシイラム</span>]]'''<sup>'''[[User talk:Reshii|<span style="color:#F16A81;">talk</span>]]'''</sup> 06:49, 17 September 2015 (UTC)


== Move protection on [[XY091]] ==
== Move protection on [[XY092]] ==


Does [[XY091|this]] need to be move protected as well? I see the other pages about the newly announced episodes of Pokémon XY are move protected. - [[User:PokémonGamer|PokémonGamer]] ([[User talk:PokémonGamer|talk]]) 07:06, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Does [[XY092|this]] need to be move protected as well? I see the other pages about the newly announced episodes of Pokémon XY are move protected. - [[User:PokémonGamer|PokémonGamer]] ([[User talk:PokémonGamer|talk]]) 07:06, 17 September 2015 (UTC)


== Sealed Ruin/s ==
== Sealed Ruin/s ==
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Could you please block this user for vandalism [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Snorlax_(Pokémon)&diff=prev&oldid=2341401] --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span>]][[User talk:Raltseye|<span style="color:#6890F0">e</span><span style="color:#6464FF">y</span><span style="color:#6890F0">e</span>]] 11:00, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Could you please block this user for vandalism [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Snorlax_(Pokémon)&diff=prev&oldid=2341401] --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span>]][[User talk:Raltseye|<span style="color:#6890F0">e</span><span style="color:#6464FF">y</span><span style="color:#6890F0">e</span>]] 11:00, 7 October 2015 (UTC)


== [[XY092]] ==
== [[XY093]] ==


Excuse me for seeing the page being protected but, could you remove debut for [[Olympia]], who will debut in [[XY091]], please? [[User:KyleRGiggs|Raymond]] 10:48, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Excuse me for seeing the page being protected but, could you remove debut for [[Olympia]], who will debut in [[XY092]], please? [[User:KyleRGiggs|Raymond]] 10:48, 8 October 2015 (UTC)


== [[XY094]] ==
== [[XY095]] ==


A few pokemon fans pointed out a couple months ago that new pokemon merchandise was being released featuring the cast of the anime. (You can simply google "Chespin Evolving Merchandise" to find a lot of the links, since I know Bulbapedia is a bit weird about directly posting the links.) Now, I posted an idea on another forum that casually talks about the anime, but apparently the idea is gaining momentum on some of the bigger pokemon forums. That Ash is going to catch the Quilladin in this episode. It might be worth to pre-emptively semi-protect this page. Not full on protection obviously as it's just a silly fan idea, but a semi-protect might be worth it because although there's no clear evidence (which would be cause for a full on protection), I would think there's enough that people would be drawn to eventually edit the page as they start seeing people talk about it. The merchandise alone seems to suggest a Quilladin WILL be a part of the team sometime soon and there's been nothing to suggest Clemont's will evolve.  
A few pokemon fans pointed out a couple months ago that new pokemon merchandise was being released featuring the cast of the anime. (You can simply google "Chespin Evolving Merchandise" to find a lot of the links, since I know Bulbapedia is a bit weird about directly posting the links.) Now, I posted an idea on another forum that casually talks about the anime, but apparently the idea is gaining momentum on some of the bigger pokemon forums. That Ash is going to catch the Quilladin in this episode. It might be worth to pre-emptively semi-protect this page. Not full on protection obviously as it's just a silly fan idea, but a semi-protect might be worth it because although there's no clear evidence (which would be cause for a full on protection), I would think there's enough that people would be drawn to eventually edit the page as they start seeing people talk about it. The merchandise alone seems to suggest a Quilladin WILL be a part of the team sometime soon and there's been nothing to suggest Clemont's will evolve.  
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::Patience, my friend. For I was away for a little bit. But if you ''really'' wanted the information to be added, you could've asked another admin. Just because I protected it, doesn't mean you can only ask me for edit requests.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 15:07, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
::Patience, my friend. For I was away for a little bit. But if you ''really'' wanted the information to be added, you could've asked another admin. Just because I protected it, doesn't mean you can only ask me for edit requests.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 15:07, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


== XY092 ==
== XY093 ==


I wanted to do something for the Major Events but it's locked. Could you unlock it for a moment and don't worry I'll write it hidden and won't show it now because I know that episode won't air in Japan until next Thursday.--{{unsigned|JasonL}}
I wanted to do something for the Major Events but it's locked. Could you unlock it for a moment and don't worry I'll write it hidden and won't show it now because I know that episode won't air in Japan until next Thursday.--{{unsigned|JasonL}}
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:In regards to Reshiram's Flamethrower, I remembered that incorrectly, so it should be disregarded. However my point about, May's Venasaur is that we assumed it had evolved from Bulbasaur, this was never stated (see Lenora's Herdier for a similar argument that went the other way on the whim of an admin) and Pikachu's Thunderbolt, I meant an error with the Japanese script (see Roxanne's Nosepass) but I'm obviously not arguing those things, they are just examples of pedantic arguments akin to your own. (Pedantic means "excessively concerned with rules and minor details to the point you become difficult) It would be like saying Brock's Onix didn't evolve into Steelix, Forrest could have lied and the Steelix Brock reunites with is just an actor hired to cover up the fact Onix is dead at the bottom of the ocean. We never actually saw that Onix evolve, now did we?  
:In regards to Reshiram's Flamethrower, I remembered that incorrectly, so it should be disregarded. However my point about, May's Venasaur is that we assumed it had evolved from Bulbasaur, this was never stated (see Lenora's Herdier for a similar argument that went the other way on the whim of an admin) and Pikachu's Thunderbolt, I meant an error with the Japanese script (see Roxanne's Nosepass) but I'm obviously not arguing those things, they are just examples of pedantic arguments akin to your own. (Pedantic means "excessively concerned with rules and minor details to the point you become difficult) It would be like saying Brock's Onix didn't evolve into Steelix, Forrest could have lied and the Steelix Brock reunites with is just an actor hired to cover up the fact Onix is dead at the bottom of the ocean. We never actually saw that Onix evolve, now did we?  


:This mythical "we don't assume" rule, only seems to have come into effect during XY071 and was lifted right up until XY089, though it still seemed to fluctuate relevance during the episode.  
:This mythical "we don't assume" rule, only seems to have come into effect during XY071 and was lifted right up until XY090, though it still seemed to fluctuate relevance during the episode.  


:I think you are arguing black is white. I think your just saying "I am an admin and I'm right no matter what", which you'll probably get away with here but that's not gonna do you much good in the real world. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 11:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
:I think you are arguing black is white. I think your just saying "I am an admin and I'm right no matter what", which you'll probably get away with here but that's not gonna do you much good in the real world. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 11:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
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== Psychic move ==
== Psychic move ==


I have my doubts but didn't Olympia's Meowstic use Psychic in XY091[[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 15:50, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
I have my doubts but didn't Olympia's Meowstic use Psychic in XY092[[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 15:50, 29 October 2015 (UTC)


== A Festival Farewell (?/!) ==
== A Festival Farewell (?/!) ==


The English name of XY081is A Festival Trade! A Festival Farewell! as revealed in the title card. Shouldn't necessary changes be made on Bulbapedia? Also Bunnelby was hit by Shadow Ball in XY081, shouldn't that be included in the error section.[[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 15:08, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
The English name of XY082is A Festival Trade! A Festival Farewell! as revealed in the title card. Shouldn't necessary changes be made on Bulbapedia? Also Bunnelby was hit by Shadow Ball in XY082, shouldn't that be included in the error section.[[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 15:08, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
:The way the title was said implies that it was meant to be a question mark and that what was shown in the title card was an error. And it is not proven in the anime that Normal type are immune to Ghost types.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 15:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
:The way the title was said implies that it was meant to be a question mark and that what was shown in the title card was an error. And it is not proven in the anime that Normal type are immune to Ghost types.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 15:20, 30 October 2015 (UTC)


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== Still confused ==
== Still confused ==


I kind of understand the first part of your reply on XY081 title card. But is the proof, you are suggesting in second part, something like 'someone stating in the anime that Ghost type moves do no good on Normal-types?'[[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 17:57, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
I kind of understand the first part of your reply on XY082 title card. But is the proof, you are suggesting in second part, something like 'someone stating in the anime that Ghost type moves do no good on Normal-types?'[[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 17:57, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
:It is not proven in the anime that Ghost type moves have no effect on Normal type Pokémon. That's pretty simple to understand--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:10, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
:It is not proven in the anime that Ghost type moves have no effect on Normal type Pokémon. That's pretty simple to understand--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:10, 31 October 2015 (UTC)


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== Manectric Scratch ==
== Manectric Scratch ==


Celosia's Manectric used Scratch in XY101, which is an anime move error. Then why was the edit regarding this move error, made on Manectric's page, reverted. [[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 13:17, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Celosia's Manectric used Scratch in XY102, which is an anime move error. Then why was the edit regarding this move error, made on Manectric's page, reverted. [[User:Harryghost|Harryghost]] ([[User talk:Harryghost|talk]]) 13:17, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:I initially thought we don't add anime move errors on Pokémon pages because, well, they're errors. But I see from Pinsir and Raticate's pages that we do in fact have move errors on them. I've added them back.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:55, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
:I initially thought we don't add anime move errors on Pokémon pages because, well, they're errors. But I see from Pinsir and Raticate's pages that we do in fact have move errors on them. I've added them back.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:55, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


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== Leech Seed vs Seed Bomb ==
== Leech Seed vs Seed Bomb ==


If you watch XY081 where Gourgiest's Lech Seed failed, you'll see that the small pellets all broke but whenever we see seed bomb collided with another attack, they explode. This is why I wrote on the Seed Bomb page that the Breloom in yesterday's episode had used it. Of course as soon as I make an edit that can be disputed in any possible way Playerking comes along and reverts it. I've said before that this user is targeting me, but you've done nothing. There have been other times where the identity of a move has not been confirmed either Leech Seed or Seed Bomb, and they are actually less distinguishable then this time, but PlayerKing has left them alone. I really don't like that every edit I make has a good chance of being scrutinised by this guy. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 12:44, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
If you watch XY082 where Gourgiest's Lech Seed failed, you'll see that the small pellets all broke but whenever we see seed bomb collided with another attack, they explode. This is why I wrote on the Seed Bomb page that the Breloom in yesterday's episode had used it. Of course as soon as I make an edit that can be disputed in any possible way Playerking comes along and reverts it. I've said before that this user is targeting me, but you've done nothing. There have been other times where the identity of a move has not been confirmed either Leech Seed or Seed Bomb, and they are actually less distinguishable then this time, but PlayerKing has left them alone. I really don't like that every edit I make has a good chance of being scrutinised by this guy. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 12:44, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
: Thanks for ignoring me by the way, really gives me faith the adminship here is committed to making this an enjoyable experience for all users. Anyway, Playerking has been persistently edit warring with other users over the issue and so far has not been told to stop or punished in any kind of way! [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 13:17, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
: Thanks for ignoring me by the way, really gives me faith the adminship here is committed to making this an enjoyable experience for all users. Anyway, Playerking has been persistently edit warring with other users over the issue and so far has not been told to stop or punished in any kind of way! [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 13:17, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
::Was kind of hoping common sense would prevail. Regardless, you can't call it either way if it gets destroyed in collision with another move, all moves explode when they collide. Unless the seed hit the target and exploded, the move is ambiguous.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 14:06, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
::Was kind of hoping common sense would prevail. Regardless, you can't call it either way if it gets destroyed in collision with another move, all moves explode when they collide. Unless the seed hit the target and exploded, the move is ambiguous.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 14:06, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
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== Ash's Noibat ==
== Ash's Noibat ==


To avoid possible edit warring, can I get you to confirm Noibat's gender in XY103? Ash and even Meowth referred to Noibat as male around 11 minutes in when Hawlucha stopped Pikachu from interfering with Noibat's fight with Breloom. I don't see why whoever thought this situation was like Charizard's at all.--      --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 05:16, 23 January 2016 (UTC)  
To avoid possible edit warring, can I get you to confirm Noibat's gender in XY104? Ash and even Meowth referred to Noibat as male around 11 minutes in when Hawlucha stopped Pikachu from interfering with Noibat's fight with Breloom. I don't see why whoever thought this situation was like Charizard's at all.--      --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 05:16, 23 January 2016 (UTC)  
:Could you please provide a link to a clip that isn't fansubbed? It would be appreciated and would strengthen you case:Otherwise, it wasn't stated. If there is no infatuation status with one Pokémon having a confirmed gender or no non-Japanese gendered prefix or suffix statement of such, then there is no conformation. I learned the hard way:DON'T assume genders. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 05:27, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
:Could you please provide a link to a clip that isn't fansubbed? It would be appreciated and would strengthen you case:Otherwise, it wasn't stated. If there is no infatuation status with one Pokémon having a confirmed gender or no non-Japanese gendered prefix or suffix statement of such, then there is no conformation. I learned the hard way:DON'T assume genders. --[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 05:27, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
::What was said? I don't really trust fansubs because they can be wrong or subjective.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 06:06, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
::What was said? I don't really trust fansubs because they can be wrong or subjective.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 06:06, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
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== "oy" ==
== "oy" ==


Playerking keeps using this in each of his edit summaries whenever he fixes the Poké TV segments I incorrectly add to episode articles when a new episode airs, like on [[XY108]] where I left out what the segment featured because I wasn't sure about it, and on [[XY107]] where I didn't add the link and italic formatting. I saw him doing this to another user [[Special:Diff/2390370|here]]. To me, it sounds rude and annoying and [[User talk:Playerking95#Code of Conduct|you already warned him about doing this before]].--[[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 07:18, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Playerking keeps using this in each of his edit summaries whenever he fixes the Poké TV segments I incorrectly add to episode articles when a new episode airs, like on [[XY109]] where I left out what the segment featured because I wasn't sure about it, and on [[XY108]] where I didn't add the link and italic formatting. I saw him doing this to another user [[Special:Diff/2390370|here]]. To me, it sounds rude and annoying and [[User talk:Playerking95#Code of Conduct|you already warned him about doing this before]].--[[User:HyruleWarrior|HyruleWarrior]] ([[User talk:HyruleWarrior|talk]]) 07:18, 26 February 2016 (UTC)


== M13 ==
== M13 ==
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== "Heroes's" ==
== "Heroes's" ==


Regarding [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=XY107&curid=209755&diff=2406530&oldid=2406523 this edit], do you have any source that says that "heroes's" is an acceptable plural possessive form of hero? I know with proper nouns, either way is acceptable, but to my knowledge, with common nouns, the only proper way is to add the apostrophe after the s. I tried to search for a source to back up your edit, but I couldn't find anything. Even my spellcheck keeps saying it's wrong, but it says nothing about heroes'. '''[[User:Slimey01|<span style="color:#40A060">slimey</span>]][[User talk:Slimey01|<span style="color:#E88686">01</span>]]''' 13:11, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Regarding [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=XY108&curid=209755&diff=2406530&oldid=2406523 this edit], do you have any source that says that "heroes's" is an acceptable plural possessive form of hero? I know with proper nouns, either way is acceptable, but to my knowledge, with common nouns, the only proper way is to add the apostrophe after the s. I tried to search for a source to back up your edit, but I couldn't find anything. Even my spellcheck keeps saying it's wrong, but it says nothing about heroes'. '''[[User:Slimey01|<span style="color:#40A060">slimey</span>]][[User talk:Slimey01|<span style="color:#E88686">01</span>]]''' 13:11, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:I'm supporting Slimey's view here, plural possessives always go s', and never s's. The only time s's occurs is a singular possessive that already ends in s (ie James's Cacnea is correct, but heroes's Pokémon is grammatically incorrect). I even went over this with another editor in the past and it was not reverted by anyone. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 15:37, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:I'm supporting Slimey's view here, plural possessives always go s', and never s's. The only time s's occurs is a singular possessive that already ends in s (ie James's Cacnea is correct, but heroes's Pokémon is grammatically incorrect). I even went over this with another editor in the past and it was not reverted by anyone. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 15:37, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
::Dang it, didn't check to see what the word was before reverting. Thought it was a name and they reverted it because they felt that s' is the only correct way (there's been a precedence of users changing s's to s' in the past, so I have reasons to assume). I'll revert myself, thanks for the catch.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:05, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
::Dang it, didn't check to see what the word was before reverting. Thought it was a name and they reverted it because they felt that s' is the only correct way (there's been a precedence of users changing s's to s' in the past, so I have reasons to assume). I'll revert myself, thanks for the catch.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:05, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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[[User:Xérnéas|Xérnéas]] ([[User talk:Xérnéas|talk]]) 15:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
[[User:Xérnéas|Xérnéas]] ([[User talk:Xérnéas|talk]]) 15:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
== Name Origin Igglybuff/Jigglypuff/Wigglytuff ==
As per previous discussion I feel that the inclusion fuusen in any of the name origin sections for any of these pokemon is misinformation. (Fukureru seems justifiable for Wigglytuff only.) The reason I feel this way is because of the literal names used for these Pokemon in their original Japanese releases and a reasonable understanding of how Japanese works as a language.
Jigglypuff is Purin, that is not up for debate and neither is the fact that it literally means pudding in Japanese. That should be the primary name origin regardless of anyone's opinion on whether it makes sense because it only has to make sense to Satoshi Tajiri.
Technical reasons that Fuusen is highly unlikely to factor into Purin... First of all the fuu part of fuusen has a long vowel. In Japanese these long vowels are very important because they make the difference between two completely unrelated words and/or just plain gibberish. If Tajiri had intended for Jigglypuff's name to imply a combination of Fuusen and Purin it would likely have been something/anything different from plain old purin. Without that long U there is no implication of any other word besides purin. Fukureru doesn't factor in either because fuku is a single word on it's own. Splitting it off and adding a dakuten transforms it beyond recognition just as much if not more than shortening fuu. There are just too many steps to getting fuusen and fukureru to fit meaningfully into Purin. Like as if I were to make a dinosaur pokemon and call it Chase and expect people to know I mean a combination of chance and case because its the Container pokemon. Plus look at it from the point of view that the name itself is trying to tell you something about the pokemon. Why would it make sense for Jigglypuff to be named pudding? Because Tajiri is trying to tell you that this pokemon is soft and jiggly like Japanese pudding. My fictional pokemon Chase is a long legged dinosaur with a body shaped like a container, but I called it chase to tell you it like to run after things. Maybe my fictional localizers renamed Chase to Runbucket to make the meaning more obvious, I dunno.
I can see how purin might not make sense right away, but fuusen makes even less sense. It is literally the category name. I would be surprised if in Japanese it didn't say Pokemon no Fuusen. I've already pointed out some pokemon that have names that are either fully or partially unrelated names to their categories, so there is a precedent for it. If you still can't see how fuusen doesn't fit into these names then I don't know what to tell you. From my point of view you are telling me that apple is a combination of ape and application because they both have an 'a' in it and never mind the left over 'e'.
--[[User:Vanya|Vanya]] ([[User talk:Vanya|talk]]) 02:49, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
== Am I allowed to add pages that aren't part of the main namespace? ==
I thought it would be kinda cool to create something like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:MAGNEDETH/new_evolutions this]. Why was Magnedeth allowed to do it? Are only admins allowed to do that kind of thing? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:58, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
:That's the userspace, not the mainspace. You can create it under [[User:Sumwun/New evolutions]] if you want to.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:39, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
== On Generational Trivia ==
For trivia on Generation articles, would it still count as true if a released logo for the Pokémon games features a detail or its absence, even if the games that will use that logo have not been released anywhere in the world?  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 11:55, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
:Could you give an example? As in (for example) a Japanese logo having something that the international logo doesn't?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 12:03, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
::Well, it more has to do with the change in the international logos that seemed to have started in Generation VI for my question.  Specifically, Generation V ended with "Pokémon Black 2 Version and Pokémon White 2 Version" as the logo while Gen VI started with just "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y" as the title in the logo.  Based on the logo that has been released for "Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon," would is be acceptable to consider at this time that the logo will not include the word "version" for now?  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 15:24, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
:::I guess it's notable to mention on the generation page somewhere, but not in the trivia section, I feel it's too important to place down at the bottom of the page. While I would like to wait for at least one more game after S&M to confirm that the international logo has done away with having "version" in the logo, I think it's alright to mention it now.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
::::I can understand waiting, but the rest did confuse me a bit.  Just to make sure, no matter which case is correct, the line "Games without the word Version (or its equivalent in that language) in their Western language titles were released" will be integrated into the article, correct?  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 17:32, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::Yes.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:05, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
== Jynx's trivia stuff. ==
1) Honestly, I almost deleted the picture because I thought its feet were cut off.
2) How is THAT obvious? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 02:39, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:It's basically the big rectangle near her hair, I don't think it's that hard to find.
:I feel it would be rather expected that Jynx would have the most colors after the change, it also doubles as sprite trivia that we don't allow.
:Also, on Sand Stream's trivia, a general rule of thumb to remember: If it can be seen by scrolling up and looking at the templates, then it's not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:18, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
== Espeon Trivia ==
Please stop referring to the obvious reference to Final Fantasy's Carbuncle as "Opinion". The shiny sprite's color was deliberate(Like with Charizard) otherwise the forehead stone would have changed color. Both are bright green fuzzy critters with red jewels on their heads from popular roleplaying games put out on Nintendo consoles. Magic Bounce ''is'' Reflect. It could not be a more obvious reference if it tried. Regular Espeon may not have been, but the shiny color and hidden ability was an obvious and direct nod. [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] ([[User talk:Kohdok|talk]]) 08:04, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:That's purely a coincidence. Just because the two share the same color scheme doesn't mean that one is based off the other. And Carbuncle is a copyrighted character, so there's absolutely no way Espeon would be based off a copyrighted character.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 08:08, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:: It isn't just color scheme, it is also appearance and powers. It is as much a reference to Carbuncle as Tyranitar is to Godzilla. It's like saying Solid Snakes Code name in MGS2 isn't a reference to ''Escape From New York'' because Snake Plisskin is a copyrighted character. Also, need I bring up the Power Rangers reference from ORAS? Shiny Espeon = Carbuncle, it is requiring you to ignore 6/7ths of my proof and bend over backwards to dispute it. The reference is transparent, obvious, and true. [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] ([[User talk:Kohdok|talk]]) 08:14, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:::Color scheme is it's appearance, and having psychic powers are just a coincidence. And just because they look the same does not mean that one is based off the other, it just means they're both based off of the same thing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 08:35, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:::: "Color scheme is its appearance" is exactly what I mean by "bending over backwards" in an effort to make your point. You are saying that the similarities, including many small, distinct, and ''deliberate'' details, including those added later, are a coincidence, and that response is not satisfactory anywhere. A nod to another game from the same publisher is hardly a scandal, it's an Easter Egg. An obvious and transparent one. Creatures based on the Carbuncle of legend have been made in every color of the rainbow, so the choice to make Espeon green like the one from Final Fantasy, the only well-known Carbuncle at the time, is an obvious nod.[[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] ([[User talk:Kohdok|talk]]) 08:46, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
::::: No, it's not bending over backwards. The color scheme is part of its appearance, just like the gem on its forehead is part of its appearance. Both being green is just a coincidence, it does not mean Espeon is based off the Carbuncle from FF.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 09:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::: You are literally ignoring everything I am saying and am now invoking logical fallacy. You are saying that something that shares the same color, long ears, fuzzy looks, ruby head gem, blue eyes, and later-added reflection powers(Features of Carbuncle popularized by the FF incarnatioh)  in yet another effort to make the reference is just a coincidence. You are in denial. Is there some reason that you cannot see that it is indeed a harmless nod to another great game franchise? [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] ([[User talk:Kohdok|talk]]) 09:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Again, coincidence and an opinion. Just because they share similar characteristics does not mean that Espeon is based off/originated from FF's Carbuncle.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 09:29, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Let me give you an example of a coincidence: Pangoro's resemblance to Jotaro Kujo is coincidence because both are based on the "Bancho" stereotype. If, however, Pangoro's hair resembled a tattered hat and he summoned a big blue guy to punch things with, it would cease being coincidence. Shiny Espeon is not only a big-eared green critter like Carbuncle, it also has a red forehead jewel and summons a reflective barrier like Carbuncle. That is too many specific similarities to be coincidence. I have yet to see you offer proof that it is coincidence. [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] ([[User talk:Kohdok|talk]]) 16:21, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::ForceFire doesn't need to offer proof of a coincidence, you need to offer proof that the designers definitively took inspiration from that FF character. Since your whole premise rests on the Shiny version, I'm inclined to agree with ForceFire that it is entirely coincidence with the way their color-changing scheme works for creating the Shiny variants. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 16:33, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::: Espeon's shiny color was intentional and constructed by the developers(Similar to Charizard's), as the standard method would have turned it ''blue'', like every other purple pokemon out there(Gligar, Gastly, Swalot, etc.). As if the designers taking the time to give it a unoqie Shiny color isn't proof enough, It also is not just a general resemblance; it copies specific features and abilities in a combination exclusively attributed to Carbuncle. And please don't insult my intelligence by saying he doesn't need to offer proof; In my previous Pangoro example, I can heap on oodles of proof that its resemblance to Jotaro Kujo is a coincidence by digging up actual pictures of Japanese thugs and other "Bancho" characters from other works of fiction. I haven't found a single other green critter with a red forehead jewel that has reflective powers that isn't named "Carbuncle" in fiction, unless it's called "Espeon". [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] ([[User talk:Kohdok|talk]]) 16:52, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::: To humor you, I did the pallet-shifting method on the Espeon sprite. In order to get Green fur, I had to basically invert its color completely. However, its fur color was very dull and its gem turned blue, a far cry from the bright green fur and ruby-red gem in the actual sprites. In order to get Shiny Espeon's combined colors, they had to have edited the sprite beyond a simple hue shift. [[User:Kohdok|Kohdok]] ([[User talk:Kohdok|talk]]) 17:05, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::::: Or it could just be a random choice of colors to be different and it just happens to share the same color as Carbuncle. Having the same features does not mean Espeon is '''based off''' the Carbuncle, it just means that the two are '''based off''' the same thing. And having psychic abilities is a coincidence. It's like saying Sentret is '''based off''' the Tanuki suit from Mario because of its tail, the concept of the Tanuki did not originate from Mario and both are '''based off''' the same thing. Pangoro does resemble (and is '''based off''') a thug or Bancho characters, '''in general''', it is NOT '''based off''' a specific character.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:24, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
== XY ''Version'' ==
Well, the problem is, that it is in the "Wanted pages" page, so why don't sombody do something, otherwise everybody will make that page again and again, and everytime again it will be deleted? [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 17:34, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
:You are always welcome to fix red links via [[Special:WhatLinksHere]]. We do not want to have redirects made just because someone is unable to use link templates properly. This encourages linking to redirects, which we want to steer away from. It is easier to notice a red link than it is to notice the use of a link to a redirect. Now the pages that were previously linking to "Pokémon X and Y Version" have been relinked, so it should be taken off the [[Special:WantedPages|Wanted pages]] soon. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
== Squishy setting to reappear ==
I spoke to Shadoguardian three days ago regarding an edit on [[Squishy]]'s page but he hasn't got back to me. He added the content stating that Squishy was set to reappear in [[M19]], I removed it as only human characters get those instead of Pokémon. He then readded the content without stating why. That was when I spoke to Shadoguardian as an edit war was about to start. Can you take care of this? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 15:35, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
== Pichu in SSB trivium ==
Another couple of things I'd like to point out as reasons to delete that trivium: Other than Generation I, every single other generation has only ever had 0 or 1 fighter in SSB. And Lucario's been in two games in a row now (and first appeared a whopping ''eight'' years ago), so if it's not worth noting for Lucario I don't see how it's worth noting for Pichu.
Generation I, not Pichu, is clearly the odd one out. If we're really wedded to the concept of a SSB/generation trivium, I think it'd be better to have something like "Generation I is the only generation to have introduced multiple Pokemon that are playable characters in the Super Smash Bros. series" on the Generation I page, rather than an only-one-of-their-generation on any of Pichu, Lucario and/or Greninja's pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:03, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
:Brawl and 4 are the most recent in terms of the installment not the years, it's been two games since Melee. Yes, it's been eight years since Brawl but SSB isn't like Pokemon where a game gets released year after year, so the year length is too great to use as a criteria. As for Gen I having the most, I think that's very obvious due to it being Gen I, so of course there's going to be more than one representative.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:23, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
== Threshold of notability of anime errors ==
Would you consider the error in [[XY111]] to have the same problem too? This particular error was present in 3 frames only. At that time, trying to isolate the error by advancing frame-by-frame was challenging enough, let alone for the average audience to spot it while playing at normal speed. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 02:47, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
:A similar problem exists in [[XY118]]: "As Greninja gets ready to reach its final Ash-Greninja form, the star shape on its leg is cream instead of blue for '''a split second'''." (emphasis mine) In this case, the error lasted only one frame. Please clarify the criteria for a notable animation error. If two seconds is not considered notable or noticeable, then there may be similar problems in many of the existing articles, where error durations are counted in frames, not seconds. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 02:58, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
::It's still a bit of a grey area for me. In my opinion, anything that goes by really quickly and isn't noticeable in normal viewing is not notable. I understand that goes for a lot of actual notable errors, and that's why I'm still not 100% on it. Again, it's a bit of a grey area that needs more discussing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
:::I understand what you mean in this. Considering some of the still-frames I have tried to grab in the past, some articles mention errors which have little value to the average viewer, and arguably only satisfy those people who actually take the time to view frame-by-frame. Well, I wasn't the one who added the errors in the first place, so I don't particularly have an opinion on their inclusion (or removal), so I guess this is an issue that can be put on hold for now, and maybe brought up again during another more suitable occasion, or when there's more time to gather relevant data (and diffs) about it. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 13:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
== Clawitzer's Heal Pulse ==
The games never even crossed my mind when I saw the error. I was using past examples from the anime. [[BW022|In]] [[XY046|the]] [[XY096|past]], Heal Pulse was always used to relax the target but never once used on the user. This was the first time where Heal Pulse didn't follow how it was done previously. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 20:56, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
:A lot of stuff happens in the anime that shouldn't; one time Pikachu used Thunderbolt on itself, and Pignite defeated 2 Pokemon with one Fire Pledge (it only hits 1 target in thee games). [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 20:59, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
== My bad ==
When I removed the trivia point in [[XY120]] regarding the Gym battle drought, the wording stated that it was the second time since the original series instead of the first time since the original series. Someone else probably goofed when they changed the wording. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 04:15, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
== Generational move names ==
Following up something that was asked on [[User talk:Cold#Gravity Page Confirmation|my talk page]] recently - On move articles with sections about older generations, should the most recent spellings for moves be used in all sections (eg. [[Ancient Power (move)#Effect|Ancient Power]]), or should moves be spelled the way they were spelled in the generation that the section is about (eg. [[High Jump Kick (move)#Effect|High Jump Kick]])? Does this apply to move articles that reference other moves in these sections (eg. Hi/High Jump Kick on [[Gravity (move)#Generation IV|Gravity]]'s Generation IV section)?--[[User:Cold|<font color="teal">Cold</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Cold|<font color="turquoise">talk</font>]])</small> 14:04, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
:I'm a bit torn on this, part of me says be consistent and use the most recent spelling while the other says to use the spelling of a specific generation. I've brought it up with the others, but for now, just go with the generational spellings.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:01, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
== Evolution template ==
Well, the template on the page [[Evolution]] in the section '''in other generations''' doesn't really work because of the generation III sprites. In case no-one can fix it, i managed to make a new one, which is on the page [[User:Lokki/Evolution New Template]]. This also stays on the [[Talk:evolution]]. But nobody did answer that, and nobody fixed this problem. Do you know how anybody can do that? Thanks. [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 18:11, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
:I think a horizontal gallery would do just fine, rather than a vertical gallery, it makes the page look longer and unappealing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:45, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
::Is it good now? [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 11:14, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
:::Tweaked the movegen template, the template in the "in other generations" section should be fine.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 11:42, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
::::It's missing the name of RS and FRLGE. For the rest, it's fine.{{unsigned|Lokki}}
:::::Refresh your cache.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 12:40, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
::::::<del>What do you mean with cache? And I know you can see it when you look at editing in show preview, but I can't see it in the real page. [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 17:10, 3 June 2016 (UTC)</del> <br>Never mind [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 13:29, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
== According to other articles, Confusion IS a status condition, ==
The edit you undid: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Paralysis_(status_condition)&curid=124278&diff=2453438&oldid=2453435]
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_moves_that_confuse
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Status_condition#Confusion
Plus Lum Berries cure it along with the other 5 statuses. Should we change the those articles? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 05:07, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
:Yes, but not to the capacity of Paralysis/Burn/Poison/Freeze, therefore, it was irrelevant to was the trivia was saying.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:14, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for correction and sorry for the blunder.
[[User:Pokemon master sachin|Pokemon master sachin]] ([[User talk:Pokemon master sachin|talk]]) 16:45, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
== How do I format tables? ==
I want to have a border around each cell on this table. How do I do it?
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| [[Physical]]
| [[Special]]
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| {{t|Rock}}
| {{m|Rock Slide}}, {{m|Head Smash}}, {{m|Stone Edge}}, {{m|Diamond Storm}}
| {{m|Power Gem}}
|-
| {{t|Water}}
| {{m|Crabhammer}}, {{m|Waterfall}}, {{m|Aqua Tail}}
| {{m|Hydro Pump}}, {{m|Surf}}, {{m|Muddy Water}}, {{m|Water Spout}}, {{m|Scald}}, {{m|Water Pledge}}, {{m|Origin Pulse}}, {{m|Steam Eruption}}
|-
| {{t|Electric}}
| {{m|Volt Tackle}}, {{m|Bolt Strike}}, {{m|Fusion Bolt}}
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}, {{m|Discharge}}, {{m|Electro Ball}}, {{m|Parabolic Charge}}
|-
| {{t|Grass}}
| {{m|Leaf Blade}}, {{m|Power Whip}}, {{m|Seed Bomb}}, {{m|Wood Hammer}}, {{m|Horn Leech}}, {{m|Petal Blizzard}}
| {{m|Petal Dance}}, {{m|Giga Drain}}, {{m|Energy Ball}}, {{m|Grass Knot}}, {{m|Leaf Storm}}, {{m|Seed Flare}}, {{m|Grass Pledge}}
|-
| {{t|Poison}}
| {{m|Gunk Shot}}, {{m|Poison Jab}}
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}, {{m|Sludge Wave}}
|-
| {{t|Psychic}}
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| {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Extrasensory}}, {{m|Psycho Boost}}, {{m|Psyshock}}, {{m|Psystrike}}, {{m|Hyperspace Hole}}
|-
| {{t|Fire}}
| {{m|Sacred Fire}}, {{m|Flare Blitz}}, {{m|Heat Crash}}, {{m|V-create}}
| {{m|Fire Blast}}, {{m|Flamethrower}}, {{m|Eruption}}, {{m|Heat Wave}}, {{m|Overheat}}, {{m|Lava Plume}}, {{m|Blue Flare}}, {{m|Fiery Dance}}, {{m|Fire Pledge}}, {{m|Fusion Flare}}, {{m|Searing Shot}}
|-
| {{t|Ground}}
| {{m|Bonemerang}}, {{m|Earthquake}}, {{m|Magnitude}}, {{m|Bulldoze}}, {{m|Land's Wrath}}, {{m|Precipice Blades}}, {{m|Thousand Arrows}}, {{m|Thousand Waves}}
| {{m|Earth Power}}
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| {{t|Flying}}
| {{m|Drill Peck}}, {{m|Brave Bird}}, {{m|Dragon Ascent}}
| {{m|Aeroblast}}, {{m|Oblivion Wing}}
|-
| {{t|Bug}}
| {{m|Megahorn}}, {{m|Attack Order}}, {{m|X-Scissor}}
| {{m|Bug Buzz}}
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| {{t|Normal}}
| {{m|Body Slam}}, {{m|Double-Edge}}, {{m|Strength}}, {{m|Thrash}}, {{m|Extreme Speed}}, {{m|Return}}, {{m|Facade}}, {{m|Head Charge}}, {{m|Retaliate}}
| {{m|Tri Attack}}, {{m|Hyper Voice}}, {{m|Judgment}}, {{m|Techno Blast}}, {{m|Boomburst}}
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| {{t|Ghost}}
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| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
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| {{t|Fighting}}
| {{m|High Jump Kick}}, {{m|Jump Kick}}, {{m|Low Kick}}, {{m|Cross Chop}}, {{m|Revenge}}, {{m|Superpower}}, {{m|Close Combat}}, {{m|Drain Punch}}, {{m|Sacred Sword}}, {{m|Storm Throw}}
| {{m|Aura Sphere}}, {{m|Focus Blast}}, {{m|Secret Sword}}
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| {{t|Steel}}
| {{m|Meteor Mash}}, {{m|Gyro Ball}}, {{m|Iron Head}}, {{m|Gear Grind}}
| {{m|Flash Cannon}}
|-
| {{t|Ice}}
| {{m|Avalanche}}
| {{m|Blizzard}}, {{m|Ice Beam}}
|-
| {{t|Dragon}}
| {{m|Outrage}}, {{m|Dragon Claw}}
| {{m|Draco Meteor}}, {{m|Dragon Pulse}}, {{m|Spacial Rend}}
|-
| {{t|Dark}}
| {{m|Crunch}}, {{m|Knock Off}}, {{m|Hyperspace Fury}}
| {{m|Dark Pulse}}, {{m|Night Daze}}
|-
| {{t|Fairy}}
| {{m|Play Rough}}
| {{m|Dazzling Gleam}}, {{m|Light of Ruin}}, {{m|Moonblast}}
|}
[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:53, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
:Just add '''style="border: 2px solid;"''' after each pipe.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:12, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
::Is there an easier way to make a table? (Like maybe a program or something to convert it?) The way to do it here is a bit of a hassle for me. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 05:02, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
:::I literally tried adding the style="border: 2px solid;" after each pipe, and it messed up the table. I tried only doing it to the first pipe, like the Manual of Style said, but it did nothing.
{| style=”border: 1px solid;”
!
!
|-
|
| [[Physical]]
| [[Special]]
|-
| {{t|Rock}}
| {{m|Rock Slide}}, {{m|Head Smash}}, {{m|Stone Edge}}, {{m|Diamond Storm}}
| {{m|Power Gem}}
|-
| {{t|Water}}
| {{m|Crabhammer}}, {{m|Waterfall}}, {{m|Aqua Tail}}
| {{m|Hydro Pump}}, {{m|Surf}}, {{m|Muddy Water}}, {{m|Water Spout}}, {{m|Scald}}, {{m|Water Pledge}}, {{m|Origin Pulse}}, {{m|Steam Eruption}}
|-
| {{t|Electric}}
| {{m|Volt Tackle}}, {{m|Bolt Strike}}, {{m|Fusion Bolt}}
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}, {{m|Discharge}}, {{m|Electro Ball}}, {{m|Parabolic Charge}}
|-
| {{t|Grass}}
| {{m|Leaf Blade}}, {{m|Power Whip}}, {{m|Seed Bomb}}, {{m|Wood Hammer}}, {{m|Horn Leech}}, {{m|Petal Blizzard}}
| {{m|Petal Dance}}, {{m|Giga Drain}}, {{m|Energy Ball}}, {{m|Grass Knot}}, {{m|Leaf Storm}}, {{m|Seed Flare}}, {{m|Grass Pledge}}
|-
| {{t|Poison}}
| {{m|Gunk Shot}}, {{m|Poison Jab}}
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}, {{m|Sludge Wave}}
|-
| {{t|Psychic}}
|
| {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Extrasensory}}, {{m|Psycho Boost}}, {{m|Psyshock}}, {{m|Psystrike}}, {{m|Hyperspace Hole}}
|-
| {{t|Fire}}
| {{m|Sacred Fire}}, {{m|Flare Blitz}}, {{m|Heat Crash}}, {{m|V-create}}
| {{m|Fire Blast}}, {{m|Flamethrower}}, {{m|Eruption}}, {{m|Heat Wave}}, {{m|Overheat}}, {{m|Lava Plume}}, {{m|Blue Flare}}, {{m|Fiery Dance}}, {{m|Fire Pledge}}, {{m|Fusion Flare}}, {{m|Searing Shot}}
|-
| {{t|Ground}}
| {{m|Bonemerang}}, {{m|Earthquake}}, {{m|Magnitude}}, {{m|Bulldoze}}, {{m|Land's Wrath}}, {{m|Precipice Blades}}, {{m|Thousand Arrows}}, {{m|Thousand Waves}}
| {{m|Earth Power}}
|-
| {{t|Flying}}
| {{m|Drill Peck}}, {{m|Brave Bird}}, {{m|Dragon Ascent}}
| {{m|Aeroblast}}, {{m|Oblivion Wing}}
|-
| {{t|Bug}}
| {{m|Megahorn}}, {{m|Attack Order}}, {{m|X-Scissor}}
| {{m|Bug Buzz}}
|-
| {{t|Normal}}
| {{m|Body Slam}}, {{m|Double-Edge}}, {{m|Strength}}, {{m|Thrash}}, {{m|Extreme Speed}}, {{m|Return}}, {{m|Facade}}, {{m|Head Charge}}, {{m|Retaliate}}
| {{m|Tri Attack}}, {{m|Hyper Voice}}, {{m|Judgment}}, {{m|Techno Blast}}, {{m|Boomburst}}
|-
| {{t|Ghost}}
|
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
|-
| {{t|Fighting}}
| {{m|High Jump Kick}}, {{m|Jump Kick}}, {{m|Low Kick}}, {{m|Cross Chop}}, {{m|Revenge}}, {{m|Superpower}}, {{m|Close Combat}}, {{m|Drain Punch}}, {{m|Sacred Sword}}, {{m|Storm Throw}}
| {{m|Aura Sphere}}, {{m|Focus Blast}}, {{m|Secret Sword}}
|-
| {{t|Steel}}
| {{m|Meteor Mash}}, {{m|Gyro Ball}}, {{m|Iron Head}}, {{m|Gear Grind}}
| {{m|Flash Cannon}}
|-
| {{t|Ice}}
| {{m|Avalanche}}
| {{m|Blizzard}}, {{m|Ice Beam}}
|-
| {{t|Dragon}}
| {{m|Outrage}}, {{m|Dragon Claw}}
| {{m|Draco Meteor}}, {{m|Dragon Pulse}}, {{m|Spacial Rend}}
|-
| {{t|Dark}}
| {{m|Crunch}}, {{m|Knock Off}}, {{m|Hyperspace Fury}}
| {{m|Dark Pulse}}, {{m|Night Daze}}
|-
| {{t|Fairy}}
| {{m|Play Rough}}
| {{m|Dazzling Gleam}}, {{m|Light of Ruin}}, {{m|Moonblast}}
|}
What am I doing wrong? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:12, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
:Microsoft Word or a similar program has auto-formatted your quote marks as the curvy kind sometimes used in professional texts. For Bulbapedia, they need to be just the regular kind that comes when you hit shift-apostrophe. In other words, use " not ”. I recommend that instead of Word or similar, you use a plaintext editor like Notepad on Windows or TextEdit on Mac. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:23, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
::You can just replace the first line with <code><nowiki>{| border="1" style="border-collapse:collapse"</nowiki></code>. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 17:20, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
:::Awesome; it worked on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Unowninator/Ability_move_variations mine!] Thanks. (Now I just need help writing an intro because I've never been good with that.) :/ [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:50, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
::::It works now. Thanks. By the way, I was using Google Drive. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:34, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
:::::On Google Docs, you'll have to go to Tools > Preferences and uncheck "Use smart quotes" in order to stop it from changing your quote marks. Hope this helps. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:39, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
== Another anime error possibly related to shading ==
Seeing as you previously weighed in about the error on [[XY116]], can you also take a look at [[Talk:XY122]] (and the screenshot) and see whether that part about Greninja's hair(?) is actually an error? [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 03:27, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
:I would say that that's an error. It's a close up shot, so there probably wouldn't be a lot of shading on its face.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:52, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
== Kalos League trivia ==
Why is the trivia for [[XY125]] keep getting erased? In all of the past regions {{Ash}} traveled in, he had gotten at least 6 Pokémon to use in that region's [[Pokémon League]]. In [[Kanto]], he had {{AP|Pikachu}}, {{AP|Pidgeotto}}, {{AP|Bulbasaur}}, {{AP|Charizard}}, {{AP|Squirtle}}, {{AP|Kingler}}, {{AP|Muk}}, & {{AP|30 Tauros|Tauros}}. That's a total of 8 different species of Pokémon he had. In [[Johto]], he had Pikachu, {{AP|Heracross}}, {{AP|Bayleef}}, {{AP|Cyndaquil}}, {{AP|Totodile}}, {{AP|Noctowl}}, & {{AP|Phanpy}}. There's 7. In [[Hoenn]], he had Pikachu, {{AP|Swellow}}, {{AP|Grovyle}}, {{AP|Corphish}}, {{AP|Torkoal}}, & {{AP|Glalie}}. Here's 6. In [[Sinnoh]], he had Pikachu, {{AP|Staraptor}}, {{AP|Torterra}}, {{AP|Infernape}}, {{AP|Buizel}}, {{AP|Gliscor}}, & {{AP|Gible}}. A total of 7. In [[Unova]], he had Pikachu, {{AP|Unfezant}}, {{AP|Oshawott}}, {{AP|Pignite}}, {{AP|Snivy}}, {{AP|Scraggy}}, {{AP|Leavanny}}, {{AP|Palpitoad}}, {{AP|Boldore}}, & {{AP|Krookodile}}. That's 10. Now for [[Kalos]], he only has Pikachu, {{AP|Greninja}}, {{AP|Talonflame}}, {{AP|Hawlucha}}, & {{AP|Noivern}}. That's only 5 Pokémon. Unlike the previous generations where he had 6 or more, this time, he does not have enough Pokémon to compete in a Full 6-on-6 battle. If he didn't release {{AP|Goodra}}, he would have 6, but since he did, he doesn't. This shows that the Kalos League is the first Pokémon League that Ash is competing in where he has less than 6 Pokémon. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 23:52, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
:He can always call Prof. Oak and have him send an older Pokemon. Or even catch a 6th. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 00:05, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
::He also competed in the Indigo league with less than six Pokemon in his party. Tauros, Kingler, and Muk weren't in his party when he registered were they?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:48, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
:::He had them because he caught them in the same region he was competing in. Just because he was eliminated before he had a chance to use Tauros once or Kingler and Muk again doesn't mean that they were never there. As a matter of fact, he used Kingler, Squirtle, Pikachu, Bulbasaur, Muk, and Charizard during his run at the Indego League. That's enough for a Full Battle. Also, there's no evidence that shows he'll be calling {{an|Professor Oak}} once again to send him any of his old Pokémon. As for catching another Pokémon, there's only [[XY124|one episode left]] before the Kalos League begins, and it's a filler episode. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 05:04, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
::::Is there evidence that he WON'T be calling Oak? Because if there isn't, then the only thing you can do is wait. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 05:33, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
:::::So you're assuming, like you always do, that he's not going to call Oak? Just wait until the Kalos league finishes to add that.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:39, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
::::::I'm not assuming. I'm just telling you what I saw. Here's the link. https://youtu.be/SGSBygmjRDM It shows Ash using Pikachu and Greninja during the Kalos League, no one else. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 14:30, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Uh... so? The previews aren't going to show ''everything''. Just have some patience.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 15:12, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Indeed. If they did, we'd have known for sure if he'd get Goodra back or not, as well as the end of every movie. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 15:16, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::[[XY123]] aired and showed that Ash left Goodra behind again. If he wanted Goodra back, he would have done so, but he didn't. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 16:10, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::::Goodra is irrelevant; there's still time for him to catch something/call Prof. Oak. Why not just wait until the episode airs? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:15, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::::Just to ask a question, is the trivia based on this being the first time that Ash will use a Pokémon not from the same generation outside of Pikachu or just that he would need another Pokémon to participate in the league?  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 01:49, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The latter. Again, just because the previews show one thing doesn't mean that it's going to be true for the whole episode. It's like saying a preview showing Ash having a 3 on 3 battle with a Gym Leader and only Pikachu is shown, we're not going to assume that he only uses Pikachu in the gym battle.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:30, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
==Lisa Ortiz==
Currently chatting to Lisa Ortiz on Facebook through messaging regarding cast lists, she is happy to give me the lists, not sure if she will send it to me through messaging though, just wondering if a screenshot of the would be prove enough for when the lists do come? {{Unsigned|BigDocFan}}
:Forgot to sign, my apologies--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 08:44, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
::Don't resign an unsign comment, it gives off the wrong timestamp. Could you screenshot the conversation? See a lot of talking but no proof to show.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 10:07, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
:Here you go [img]https://s31.postimg.org/75kg4nnkn/Lisa_Ortiz_Chat.png[/img]--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 10:12, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
::That image is far too small, can barely see anything. Try again, make the image larger.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 10:19, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
:I can only apologise my that, hope this is big enough, [url=https://postimg.org/image/cw2td43d3/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/cw2td43d3/Lisa_Ortiz_Chat2.png[/img][/url]--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 13:47, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
== Color Template Categories ==
Regarding these categories and the recent changes I made to them:
* [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Game_color_templates Category:Game color templates]]
* [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Type_color_templates Category:Type color templates]]
I only added color tables to these category pages, so that the various colors can be viewed in a centralize location. Since I do not have the rights to create a page on this wiki, I cannot create a '''[[wp:Template|Template]]''' page nor a '''[[wp:Template:Documentation|Template/doc]]''' page.
Also, these "templates" are all copy-pasted each time a new one is created. I would like to standardize this by implementing an actual [[Template:ColorCode]] page so that the amount of boilerplate markup can be reduced.
-- Thanks, [[User:Rmkane|Rmkane]] ([[User talk:Rmkane|talk]]) 16:38, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
:You can make one in your userspace, of which you need to be autoconfirmed to be able to edit. Also, it's a category page, a template has no place in a category page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 11:44, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
== Why aren't pictures like File:001.png updated for Generation VI? ==
They were supposed to update every time a Pokemon got a new sprite. Also, Generation VI Pokemon don't have such files yet. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 13:11, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
== Why are some templates not protected? ==
I recently went through the list of templates used on my userpage, and some of them, like User Rain, don't say "protected" next to them. Is this an important issue? If so, can you fix it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 13:34, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
== Question about signatures ==
If we always have to sign our talk page edits, why can't Bulbapedia do it automatically? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:06, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
:Because that's not how it works, it can't do that. Don't be lazy.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:10, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
::It can automatically say, "Unsigned comment from (user)", so why not provide a signature? Is it a problem with custom signatures or the timestamp? I'm not using this as an excuse to be lazy; I'm just curious. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:58, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
:::It's not automatic--it's a [[Template:unsigned|template]] that is manually put on by other users. '''[[User:Slimey01|<span style="color:#40A060">slimey</span>]][[User talk:Slimey01|<span style="color:#E88686">01</span>]]''' 01:01, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
::::Thanks. I think I get it now. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:09, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
== Blue (Origins) ==
Nice, civil response, there. I know this is gonna fall on deaf ears so I won't waste my time trying to craft an attempt at persuasion. All I have to say is, we all know the games =/= the anime, and repeating that over and over doesn't change the fact that there is no game-canon evidence as to the birds' uniqueness or lackthereof. You're making an assumption when you say they're unique, just as others are making assumptions when they say they're not unique. But nobody's gonna listen to me, so go ahead and do with the page what you will. I'd just like to register my distaste with your dismissive response that did nothing to actually acknowledge my concern in the slightest. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:39, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
:Tell me how you can get more than one legendary bird in the games they appear in (or any other legendary) without trading, then we'll talk. That's canon enough. Trainer battles and dex entries don't count for nothing. They're just how they're programmed into the game.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:46, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
::Availability is just another game mechanic. It has no more bearing on the lore than Trainer battles do. Or do you think that Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Eevee, Lapras, the Hitmons, Mr. Mime, Jynx, Lickitung and Farfetch'd were all also meant to be one-member-only species in Red and Blue's lore? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:53, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
:::I didn't mention only Red and Blue. Apart from the starters, you can get the others (and multiple of) in the wild in other games, be it swarms, by its prev-evolution or whatnot. Whereas you only get one legendary.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:06, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
== Recent protection action ==
I am a nobody, and you are a staff member, so I will keep this short, and I don't expect a reply either.
While the recent speculative edits on [[Lumiose Conference]] is indeed a problem, I feel that the protection reason which you specified comes across as passive aggressive and inappropriate. "Congratulating" another well-meaning editor, especially one who is new here and probably unfamiliar with on-wiki practices (with no prior relevant advice on their user talk page, in fact), comes across as {{wp|WP:BITE|BITE-y}} and does not encourage them to stay on as contributors.
Bulbapedia staff members do a very good job of screening for speculative edits, so as to avoid misrepresenting information and the encyclopedia being misused as a crystal ball, but I thought the above was rather unbecoming of a staff member. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 13:55, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
:The passive aggressiveness comes from knowing that random users are going to add the info in regardless of the warnings and reversions, so coming down hard in the summary was just a way to assert that I'm not taking it lightly.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 14:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
::Instead of completely protecting it, can't you just block the people who keep making the unneeded edits to the page repeatedly for a week or two. Blocking it seems a bit unnecessary. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:32, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
:::(edit conflict) I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree on this issue then. Not every person who comes here is immediately knowledgeable of the intricacies of the on-wiki policies. Furthermore, not every new editor who comes here is immediately aware of the page history functionality, or even the purpose (or existence, *shudder*) of [[Special:RecentChanges|recent changes]]. Unless you have checkuser data to show that [[User:Ash-Greninja]] is a sockpuppet, I don't see any prior warnings directed specifically to this editor. To the average newcomer, this is a "website" which "anyone can edit", and all they see is that the "live" version of the article is not showing content which they felt (however misguided it may be) should belong on the article, and rollbacking edits with no further follow-up may lead to confusion as to "why my edit was 'deleted'".
:::Again, you are the staff member here, so I don't have any say in how you decided to handle this, and am not intending to undermine your authority, because speculation (and/or "predicting the future") is indeed not allowed on the encyclopedia. I just want to express my disappointment in how this was handled, and think that this situation could have been mitigated (or even prevented entirely) with a more explicit HTML comment in the page's source code (eg. "do not uncomment until the relevant episode has aired"), or in the long-run, a roll-out of MediaWiki's [[mw:Help:Edit notice|edit notice]] functionality. Leaving the "speculated content" inside HTML comments, with no other explanation, furthers confusion as to why the information is not on the "live" article. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 14:39, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
== Wikipedia List of Pokémon ==
See the Wikipedia page on List of Pokémon. It shows expansions for Pokemon Battrio and Pokemon Tretta. That is where I got this information. Where should we list this? [[User:Alexlatham96|Alexlatham96]] ([[User talk:Alexlatham96|talk]]) 03:52, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[[User:Alexlatham96|Alexlatham96]]
:Wikipedia, like us, can be edited by anyone. So the information could be fake. Please don't assume everything you see on the internet is true, always ask the place where you got your source from where they got their source from.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:11, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
== Goodra ==
Okay, but why can't I edit Goodra's place if it's in the incorrect place? [[User:Gentleflipper|Gentleflipper]] ([[User talk:Gentleflipper|talk]]) 06:11, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
:Because it was '''caught''' before Noivern. We list the Pokemon in order of capture/debut. If Charizard were to return, it'd be placed in between Pikachu and Greninja, '''not''' after Noivern.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 06:50, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
== A small favour ==
Could you please stop Blancbpg from reverting edits that have no business being reverted, like mentioning Olympia's flashback of old appearances, when they don't need to be there, since the episode that the flashbacks are from have already been referenced. And I don't think characters being mentioned by people count as appearances and aren't all that worthy of being referenced as well. He/she never seems to be listening to what people have been saying to him/her. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 05:34, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
:We do include mentions and flashbacks, look at other anime pages. It's the episode pages where mentions aren't counted as appearance.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 06:23, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
::Except that we don't and that's just utterly stupid to do so. Why mention a characters appearance when it's already been mentioned in the same page. It's not a new appearance, just because some white border is surrounding the scene and mentions shouldn't count either, because if so, then why not just add mentions of specific Pokemon to their respective pages? It makes sense to add them to the episode page, because they did, in some way, appear there, but their article's shouldn't list the same appearance multiple times. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:26, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
:::[[Roxie#In the anime|Yes]], [[Lenora#In the anime|we]] [[Koga#In the anime|do]] [[Crasher Wake#In the anime|include]] [[Brawly#In the anime|flashbacks]] [[Jasmine#In the anime|and]] [[Misty (anime)#Best Wishes series|mentions]] [[Tracey Sketchit#History|in]] [[Gary Oak#In the Best Wishes series|the]] [[Brock (anime)#History|anime]] [[May (anime)#Best Wishes series|articles]] [[Max#History|or]] [[Dawn (anime)#In the Best Wishes series|sections]].You're under the impression that the sentence is repeating what is already said, it isn't. It's just saying that the character reappeared in a flashback/mentioned in an episode. The actual flashback footage is irrelevant to the sentence.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:50, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
::::That list just seems obnoxious and over the top, but that list aside, it doesn't mean that those other articles should  have those "appearances" mentioned as well. Just because it's not mentioning what has already been said, that doesn't mean that the sentences aren't referring to what has already mentioned previously in the article. It seems like a space filler and completely irrelevant to the character, since I was under the impression that the anime section should talk about what the characters did in what episode and about their personality and characteristics and not a section dedicated to every single appearance the character has made, even if one entry is just harkening back to an exact same previous one.
Do you know how many characters get mentioned without actually appearing in the episodes themselves, like Officer Jenny, Nurse Joy, Team Rocket, etc. To list all of those would just be chaotic, especially if we also do this for Pokemon as well in the anime sections of their main articles, because again, why should this only be done for human characters? I won't delete them from the articles, but this format should really be discussed because it doesn't seem right. And also, regardless of why they should or why they shouldn't be there, that still doesn't excuse blancbpg from doing things without a reason and not listening to what users and admins have been telling him/her for the last couple of months. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:06, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
:That list was to prove a point rather than us go a back and forth with the yes's and no's. The sentence isn't detailing what happens in the flashback, it's just saying that the character appeared in the flashback. Nothing more, nothing less. The context of the flashback is irrelevant. Also, a ajority of those articles I linked were of major characters and the flashbacks were from important episodes, so that should at least get mentioned.
:Jenny, Joy, and the Rockets are recurring characters, so they should be expected to get mentioned at least once per episode. Minor CoTD's shouldn't get any flashback or mentions included as they're not important. That much I agree on. As for why Pokemon don't get mentions, I don't know, that's something to bring up to Pokemaster97. As for blancbpg, I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 12:41, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
== Golduck ==
(Thanks for just complaining at me in your edit summary instead of actually explaining.) What's the justification for keeping that trivium on Golduck? "One of the few" is literally the least notable way of framing it at all, so I hope you can understand the fact that I don't consider that phrasing to be worth keeping. Are you saying that [[List of Pokémon that appear in every regional Pokédex|Pokémon that appear in every regional Pokédex]] deserve to have that fact in their trivia sections? Because if so, sure, but we need to phrase it in the same way on every page and include a link to that list. We can't just say "one of the few" and leave the reader without any links to help them easily find out what the others are.
The consistent phrasing seems to be, for example: ''Zubat, along with {{p|Golbat}}, has [[List of Pokémon that appear in every regional Pokédex|appeared in every regional Pokédex]]. This is due to the Unova Pokédex's expansion in Black 2 and White 2.'' I'm not in love with mentioning evolutionary relatives (they can already be seen on the linked page) or the Unova Pokédex (overspecific and unnecessary, and will get really clunky if a similar situation comes up in future games), but regardless of any quibbling that may happen with those phrasings, I am more than happy to go through and make sure all of the appropriate Pokémon articles include that phrasing or similar, if you think that's what the intention of the Golduck point was. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:47, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
:That was the exact intention of that trivia, both are basically saying the same thing, even if both are worded differently. The Unova dex expansion has to bet mentioned since it's a thing that happened and the reason why it has appeared in every dex. If you feel one is worded more notable than the other, than update the one with the less than notable wording with the good one, don't just outright remove it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:33, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
== Castform ==
This was not a large scale edit; this was merely finishing off what Tiddlywinks, a staff member, had left unfinished. Your aggressive edits toward me in the past two weeks are highly unappreciated. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:06, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
:While I am not interested in questioning the staff's definition of a "large scale" edit, you might want to know that Tiddlywinks' recent edit removed the STAB designation from the hourly rotation, so please either follow through with reverting ''that'' particular edit, or modify the notice template on top of [[Talk:Castform (Pokémon)]]. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 17:10, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
::Regardless of if you were "finishing off" what Tiddlywinks started (Judging by his edit summary, Tiddlywinks only intended to remove what he removed, not everything), it is still a large scale edit that needs approval from staff.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 17:12, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
== Type and Ability protection ==
you might want to protect the types and ability pages [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 14:10, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
:I don't think there were any changes to existing types and abilities. Users are allowed to add the new Pokemon into the list.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 14:12, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
== XY130 ==
Could that be unlocked sometime soon? You could always block the people who are messing with the page for a couple of days or a week until they learn the lesson, but I don't think it's fair for it to be blocked for all of the other people who can edit it properly. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:10, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
== I'd like to request an additional "Switch leaders" for Allowances in the [[Template:Dungeon infobox]] ==
In the Red/Blue Rescue team games, some dungeons like Wish Cave and Buried Relic allow the players to switch leaders mid-dungeon, while others like Murky Cave and Uproar Forest don't. I was about to add that for the dungeons which do myself, but this page is protected so I can't add to the template.
I should mention that this would only be for the Rescue Team games, as the Explorers game don't allow switching leaders at all, while the 3DS games always do as long as you're not playing the story. So anyway, is there anything we can do about this? Thanks. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:25, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
== "Don't Be Ridiculous" ==
What do you mean by this?[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 08:55, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
:Pikachu's gender was confirmed via attract. And the fact that the anime pointed out the gender difference between a male and female Pikachu invalidates thye anime=/=game rule.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 09:28, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
::This doesn't argue against my point. Attract may not work that way in the anime for all we know it could just be that it works on a Pokémon who is attracted to the user so Pikachu could be a lesbian female or a bisexual. This site always states something like falling in love doesn't confirm gender so for instance Charizard is stated to be "unknown" even though it fell in love with a female Cahrizard yet it is allowed in this instance. Why is all of this trivia relevant on that page but not on his other Pokémon's pages, please give me objective criteria that allows it in this instance.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 18:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
:::Attract '''does''' work the same way as it does in the games. Snivy used attract on Ash's Pidove and it failed because both were female. There. There's your confirmation the the move works the same way as the game. {{m|Attract}} and attraction are two separate things. People base attraction off behavioral patterns, and apparently, only guys are allowed to be attracted to girls and vice versa. Pikachu is '''far more important''' than Leavanny, that's why it gets mentioned on Pikachu's page and not Leavanny's.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:10, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
::::Could it not just be that Pidove is just a heterosexual female so attract wouldn't work on it. If attract only works in the same way as the games that would mean that there wouldn't be any bisexual or homosexual Pokémon because as Blisseyandtheaquajets said that would be incredibly homophobic for a possibly homosexual male to fall in love with a female via attract for example. So I guess Charizard is male. I did ask for objective criteria not just that it's more important which is incredibly arbitrary. I guess then if Pikachu is more important it could get many pieces of trivia that you probably won't think is "notable" yet this apparently is. Come to think of it how is any piece of trivia on this site "notable" there is no objective way of determining it I guess it just if you admins agree with it or not. What's the point of discussing anything with you you always say "don't edit war discuss it" but this does nothing and you keep reverting people many times without discussing it. SilverZoroark raised a similar point on their talk page and said that they aren't using this site anymore because you admins treat people like scum. When on this site have you ever admitted to being wrong? Please answer this question[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 08:50, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
:::::What... are you on about? The game description for Attract states, very clearly, that it only works on the opposite genders. And the anime followed suit. Stop picking at holes that aren't there. Like I already said, the move and the act of attraction are two separate things.
:::::Charizard's gender stays at unknown until its gender is stated. That's final. There's a [[User:Force Fire/Trivia Policy|trivia policy]] that has been in the works for a while. And really, you're only nitpicking at this because you're upset that your Leavanny trivia was removed despite there being valid reasons for its removal.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 11:37, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
== Re: Seasons ==
Sorry about the edits, I thought the season ended at EP 274 since I remember Kids' WB advertising Pokemon Advanced as a new season on November 1st. [[User:Fiberoptic26|Fiberoptic26]] ([[User talk:Fiberoptic26|talk]]) 23:34, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
==Cast lists==
Hi Force Fire, started receiving cast lists from Lisa Ortiz, sent you XY110 and XY111 for your approval, had trouble seeing your replies before, would you mind giving me approval or refusal here, will email you more once you respond--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 07:40, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
:XY111 and XY112 sorry--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 07:45, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
::Those are fine. I haven't been checking my e-mail lately, due to being busy to even check it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 08:19, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
:::Cast for XY113 to XY119 have been sent, a few errors I noticed but we know the facts {{unsigned|BigDocFan}}
::::Cool, those can be added.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 08:58, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
== [[XY131]] ==
Saying "Alain defeats Ash... and wins... becoming the winner" is redundant, and just poor wording, as the first part of the sentence already establishes the fact that Alain won the final round of the Lumiose Conference. The format of the 'result' statement similarly follows previous episode pages ([[EP272]], [[DP189]], and [[BW108]]), in which it states that the winner became a [[Pokémon Champion]]. Also per the "Pokémon Champion" page, it states that "It usually refers to a Trainer who has completed a Pokémon League by collecting all the necessary Badges, and either winning the regional Pokémon tournament or defeating the Elite Four and the previous Champion..."
Alain won the regional Pokémon League, and the use of the word "or" implies that Alain only has to accomplish one of the two requirements, and not both. Also in the list under the subheading "In the anime," it lists the previous league winners as a Pokémon Champion. {{unsigned|Lord980}}
:Edit: I personally don't care about the Pokémon Champion part, just the redundancy of the first edit. [[User:Lord980|Lord980]] ([[User talk:Lord980|talk]]) 15:23, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
::Firstly, don't remove or re-sign an unsigned comment. Secondly, if you don't care about the Champion bit, why'd you add that he became the champion. And games=/=anime, as evident by the anime themselves saying that they need to beat the regianol conference first before being able to battle the champion.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 15:36, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
== XY132 ==
Do you think XY132's page can be unlocked soon? It doesn't pose a high traffic area of editing as say XY131 before it aired and the episodes that follow it are unlocked? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 06:45, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
:I'll let the protection run out since the episode is coming up, pretty sure people can wait for four more days.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 06:50, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'm sure we could wait until it's unlocked, but I don't see the harm in just unlocking now instead of waiting it out and at least if it's unlocked, the information on the article will be more up to date if people are allowed to edit it. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 08:23, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
:::I see no harm as well, but the air date is close, so I'm choosing to let the protection expire. If it were to air a week later, then yeah, I'd unprotect it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 08:27, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
== Ability to move episode articles ==
Hello, should an average user be able to move anime episode articles? I'm wondering since [[XY060]] and down I cannot move, and [[XY061]] and up I can shouldn't they be protected from renaming? --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 13:13, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
:No. Regular users should not be moving episode articles at all.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:50, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
::Yeah didn't think so. Also apart from the two pages you just protected [[XY063]] through [[XY069]] are unprotected. Could you protect them? --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 14:32, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
== Brazilian VA ==
http://dublanet.com.br/forum1/showthread.php?5772-Pok%E9mon-(Pocket-Monsters) <-Some VAs come from here (like Diantha's). Some others I'm going by ear but only in cases where I can be completely sure (like in Olympia's case, I don't think there's another VA with a voice similar enough to Denise Reis'). If I'm not sure I'll add it only in the character's talk at best. [[User:Ratcicle Fan|Ratcicle Fan]] ([[User talk:Ratcicle Fan|talk]]) 15:31, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
:No... just no. I've already explain why you can't play by ear, and since you intend to continue to play by ear, I'm going to have to ask you to stop adding voice actor information. As for the forums, I don't speak Brazilian, so I don't know what's being said. But if the users on that thread are going by ear as well, then that is not an acceptable source. If you want to get info on who voiced who, ask the voice actors directly via social media. If you are unable to do so, then I am once again going to have to ask you to stop adding voice actor information.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 15:43, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
== Why does the file type matter? ==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Final_Smash&curid=26499&diff=2495639&oldid=2495612] And I have no idea how to convert it either. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 03:22, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
:[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Archives:FAQ#Someone_mentioned_that_I_shouldn.27t_be_using_jpgs.2C_why.3F See here]. Converting the image is simple. Open the image in a image editing tool (like paint) and save the image as a .png.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
== Request ==
Could you please have a word to user GrammarFreak01, because that user is constantly changing sentences on multiple articles and he says that he's doing because he can't follow what was previously written their, even though what was already written there was perfectly fine. I can understand it if the user was correcting mistakes, like grammatical ones, but these are unnecessary. For instance, the user keeps changing He will appear again in [[XY134]] on Steven Stone's page to He will reappear in [[XY134]]. Who cares? It's basically the same thing and it's not like it's going to stay like that forever? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 06:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:Who cares if it's supposed to be "reappear" or "appear again"? Like you said, it's basically the same thing and it's not like it's going to stay like that forever. Why freak out over it in the first place? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
::Okay 1, I was NOT talking to you, this isn't your conversation and 2, do you not notice your own hypocrisy? If it doesn't matter, than why change it in the first place? Answer: No good reason. Now please leave this conversation to be between me and Force Fire. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 06:24, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:::Well, I have a right to defend myself, do I? So yes, this should be my conversation too. Anyway, why use "appear again" when "reappear" is much shorter and simpler to use? It's already being used in many other articles. Why make the effort? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
::::Not now. This is just me asking Force Fire if this is a matter worth addressing, if be feels whether it is necessary or not. If he wants to talk to you, then you can defend yourself, but right now I'm just asking him whether or not this is a matter worth discussing or not and as I've already said, this is me talking to hum, so there's really no need for any other input. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 06:43, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::Well, I can tell this is going to be addressed by him, so I'd rather start while I'm ahead. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:45, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
::::::There's not need and as I said, this isn't between you and me right here. so at the ver least, leave this conversation be between me and him, I mean, he hasn't even had a change to respond yet. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 06:59, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::::I'd like to chime in here since I was also involved in a similar dispute with you, Playerking95, in the past about a very similar situation. You have had this brought up to you twice in the past Playerking, at the [[User_talk:Playerking95#Finals_vs._Final_Round|end of July]] and again [[User_talk:Playerking95#About_unnecessary_edits|about a week later]]. You have constantly resorted to personally attacking those who have edited things you posted for various reasons, just because you personally feel that your way is correct and everyone else should leave your edits alone, even when some (like myself) have proven a valid reason and evidence to support the revisions. If, as you claim, these edits are resulting in "basically the same thing" being said, then why don't you take the high road and leave the edits alone instead of starting edit wars and then personally attacking individuals by calling them "petty" and "trolls"? [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 13:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Again, you are not apart of the conversation, so no, do not chime in here, you did not provide valid reasons, and since it's basically the same thing, then why change it in the first place? That's a question no one has come up with a good answer for yet, because there is none and please don't act like you haven't been in these edit wars, so please stop with the hypocrisy. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:40, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::Just to pose the question then if it is basically the same thing and not worth changing why do you take the time to change it back? It's not like GrammerFreak01 is hurting anything.--[[User:Pikablu|Pikablu]] ([[User talk:Pikablu|talk]]) 13:49, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::I had a similar conflict with you and can provide another point of view. Therefore, I am a part of this conversation. I did provide evidence, you just dismissed it without any proof of your own opinions. I was involved in one edit war, and have changed how I proceed with reversions to avoid causing or contributing to them. May I also point out [[User_talk:Pokemaster97#Request|this response]] you received from an editorial board member when you made a very similar request almost a month ago on this same topic? You were specifically told that nothing happened against policy and that your constant reversions out of "revenge" were not the way to go about settling the disputes. You are just looking for anyone on staff to take your side to feel vindicated, and so far I have seen two staff members (one being an editorial board member) tell you that you are in the wrong in your views, yet you refuse to listen to them. I've said all I needed to now, apologies for the email spam ForceFire, I just had to join in, as I said, to provide my point of view from a nearly identical situation a month ago. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 13:51, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::::At Pikablu, because it's the principal of the matter and as I have said time and time again, if there's no difference than WHY change things that are fine to similar things that are also fine it in the first place? I'm waiting for a good reason and I know there isn't one.
:::::::::::At Che, I don't care if the previous conversation was the same word for word with a couple of little differences, this is still a different situation, and this has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with you. This is just a question I'm asking Force Fire, not you, not GrammarFreak, not Pikablu, not anyone else. So don't go acting like you HAD to answer here and that you were right, because, I've said that I don't believe that you are and I'm allowed to have that opinion. You did not provide any definitive evidence and just because you don't edit war anymore, like me, it doesn't change the fact that you still did it, so you can never tell me off for doing something that you've also done. And I know what others have said, and I've said before that even though it's not against policy, it's something that should not happening and this has nothing to do with revenge, so along with being hypocritical, please also stop exaggerating. I am not looking for vindication, I'm just asking for a staff members opinion on whether or not in it's a matter that should be looked at or not, that's all, so don't make things into things that they aren't and as I've said, while they may think that I wrong, it doesn't mean that they are right. I don't believe that unnecessary edits should be made and the fact that they think they should doesn't mean that they are wrong, because we both have our own opinions. I'm not saying that I'm going to go against what they're saying to do, I'm just arguing against unnecessary edits[[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:09, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
First of all. {{bp|Code of Conduct}}. Don't assume bad faith and accuse other user's actions as "petty" or "trolling", neither of which was what GrammarFreak01 was doing. It was clearly not trolling nor an act of petty. The only petty one here is you, Playerking. Reverting such trivial and minor edits because '''''you''''' doing like it? Grow up, princess. You're not special, nor will you be given special treatment, and it is not fine to rudely accuse others of trolling. You don't make the rules here. Secondly, users are free to interject and give their opinions, as long as they keep it civil. Again, you don't make the rules here, if you don't want to read what others have to say, you have the choice of ignoring it completely. Simple. Thirdly, GrammarFreak01's edits were totally fine and were not unnecessary, in fact, they were better than what they were before. The continuous reversion was however, and your refusal to take it to the user that reverted you rather than reverting them back is a common problem for you ''for years''. So I suggest you start picking up the habit of going to the talk page first before even thinking about clicking on that undo button.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 14:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:Okay, first, don't call me princess, again, ever. And I NEVER said that I'm special, because I'm not talking about only my edits, which I have mentioned multiple times before, so if you read that, you would know that. And no the edit was not better it was the same and I'm not being petty, I'm sticking to my principals, because edits should not be changed when they are the exact same thing and it is rude to to interject into other conversations, when the conversation wasn't aimed at anyone else. I'll ignore it, because quite frankly, they shouldn't be there, so the way I set it, they're not there in my eyes. And that's what you want me to do, so I'm doing it and I promise, I won't complain about all of these edits again. And when it comes to assuming things, people do it here all the time and since both edits were basically the same, I was just expressing my opinion that to change something that was fine in the first place, minus some a few mistakes, has to have a reason behind it and I don't want to call it petty, but that's the only reason that it seems to be. I bet that If I were to change blocks of text by rewording it and correcting some mistakes, I would be told off, because quite honestly, it seems like I'm being targeted. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:05, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
::Well, if you're going to act like a brat, I'm going to have to be harsher. I'm no grammar king, but I can clearly see that the sentence is much better now, as it doesn't look so run on and non stop, like there's no pauses in between the sentences. You are clearly refusing to accept that you might and ''are'' wrong in this situation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 16:16, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:::Ouch? I don't even know what sentence you are referring to, but regardless, I'm not refusing to accept anything, because the fact that I am wrong in this situation isn't actually a fact at all, but just an opinion, and sicne we clearly disagree, lets just leave at that. And can you really call me bratty after you called me "princess"? Hypocrisy. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 16:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
::::Wow. Do you even hear yourself? I was going to stay out of it after my first comment but PlayerKing you are being the biggest hypocrite. I mean even your first message had hypocritical language. Please just try to accept not everything works out.[[User:Pikablu|Pikablu]] ([[User talk:Pikablu|talk]]) 16:28, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::Oh I do and I know that any hypocrisy that I used was because I was sticking to my principals because I didn't start this editing war. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 16:32, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
::::::I'm referring to the Takeru and Mairin sentences... what other sentences would I be referring to? Read the previous version and the version it is now. Tell me what the difference is when you read it out loud. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 16:44, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry that I just came in the conversation, but Playerking, it doesn't really matter who began the editing war. It matters the most who stopped in time and who accepted the other was right, ''or'' used good arguments, which ''really'' matter. It's just like a real-live fight. It doesn't matter who began. [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 12:02, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
== "This is different" ==
Why is it?[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:04, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
:Because they are dub only and not actually fully confirmed, which makes it notable. You really need to '''read''' the trivia carefully, because they are very clearly separate from what you're thinking of. Nowhere in those trivia did it say it was '''officially confirmed'''.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
::Well why not then, it's like having unsourced facts on a page and just expecting people to take the page's word for it.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:11, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
:::In addition I don't like the way you use the word "notable" you are saying it as if it's fact when there is no objective way to determine notability.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:12, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
::::What are you on about? The dub clearly gave them gender pronouns in their respective episodes, but it doesn't make them official since the original Japanese version doesn't say such things. That's what makes it notable, when the dub takes liberties in adding gender pronouns. Don't be difficult for the sake of being difficult.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:16, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::You haven't addressed the issue of the fact that it's unsourced facts. How does the dub adding pronouns make it "notable" please provided objective criteria and not your biased opinion.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:19, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
::::::How is it unsourced facts? Watch the god damn '''episodes'''. Did you read that clearly? '''EPISODES'''. Is it really that hard to comprehend?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:22, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
(resetting indent)It's clearly unsourced facts as it's not on the page, WATCH THE EPISODES well which one? Simple say it on the page don't just expect people to take the word of it. Saying you can find it by watching the episdoes is not good enough as that's like Wikipedia having unsourced facts and saying read the author's original work, well which author and which piece of work?[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:26, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
:... I... just... really? Which episodes? The god damn trivia lists the episodes. Are you even '''reading''' the god damn trivia? Or are you just removing them because you're still salty about your Leavanny trivia being removed? Because that is clearly why you removed them, or else you would;ve actually '''read''' and '''seen''' the difference.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:32, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
::How dense can you be Ratchet? Every single trivia point refers to AT LEAST one episode that the Pokemon was referred to using gender-specific pronouns (which ForceFire mentioned before I posted), AND they say if it was a dub or Japanese episode. Do you just enjoy coming on every couple of months and making a mess for the sake of arguing? [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 13:34, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
::: Watch all the episodes that would take hours and imagine all the filler. Ok Leavanny for example watch all the episodes from when it first appeared that would take a long time when it could take a few seconds if it is stated on this site. If it isn't on the page then it isn't sourced.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:41, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
::::You clearly did not read what I just said. You are clearly being difficult. You are clearly being stubborn. You are clearly salty about the Leavanny reversion. You are clearly refusing to actually read what is being said. '''The trivia lists the episodes.''' Why would you need to watch countless episodes if the trivia already '''gives''' you the god. damn. episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 13:45, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::What about Brock's Sudowoodo it states it's male but doesn't say how + when so it is essentially an unsourced fact. From what you are saying I and anyone else who wants to find out should watch every episode in which it appears. That could take days so it should have a note saying when it was confirmed. You are being equally stubborn and at least on Ash's Leavanny that note would then allow visitors to know exactly which episode to watch.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 13:52, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
::::::You're not reading what I'm saying. Where did I say that you have to watch all the episodes? I said: <big>'''THE TRIVIA LISTS THE EPISODES.'''</big> Why would you blindly watch several episodes when the '''TRIVIA ALREADY GIVES YOU THE EPISODE YOU NEED'''. Are you actually '''READING''' the trivia? Because right now, you're just being difficult for the sake of being difficult. Also, '''read the history section of Brock's Sudowoodo. It's right there. Near the end where it talks about it's battle with Nurse Joy's Chansey in [[SS025]], of which the SS025 trivia states was the episode Sudowoodo's gender was revealed'''. Keyword here being <big>'''READ'''.</big>--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 14:02, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
==Re:Lysandre's Gyarados==
Ok I understand.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]03:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
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