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--[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#2b2">'''TheICT'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#22b">'''Liker4'''</span>]] 10:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
--[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#2b2">'''TheICT'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#22b">'''Liker4'''</span>]] 10:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
:An image is far, far easier to do than all that.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:49, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
:An image is far, far easier to do than all that.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:49, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
::I don't know about that, also, the <code><math></math></code> tags seem much more flexible and easier to edit afterhand if we would need to fix or tweek something then uploading a new image. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 00:34, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


== Galar templates ==
== Galar templates ==
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:I've protected the "Gal" template. As for the Galar equivalent for "alo", I think Glr would work just fine.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:50, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
:I've protected the "Gal" template. As for the Galar equivalent for "alo", I think Glr would work just fine.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:50, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't even consider that shortening. Template has been created. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:33, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't even consider that shortening. Template has been created. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:33, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
== Manalo Conference arc ==
As you saw, there has been some disagreement regarding which episode is counted as the beginning of the Manalo Conference arc: SM128 or SM129. I personally lean towards the latter because that's where the League was officially declared to have started, which has previously also been the signal to start counting the episodes as Pokémon League episodes. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:15, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
:You also might want to consult with {{U|Reinhartmax}} about that. He said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=SM129&type=revision&diff=3008821&oldid=3008811 this] to say about the matter. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:12, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
::With all due respect, I trust Force Fire's opinion more on the matter. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:32, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
:::The first appearance of the league marks the start of the '''arc'''. It's not the competition that has started, it's the '''arc'''.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:52, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
::::Good point. Yeah. Sorry for the edit war. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:06, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
== Shaymin's Aromatherapy ==
With all due respect, isn't retrospectively confirming a past move a thing anymore? Because seriously, I am 100% certain that the move Shaymin used in SM117 was Aromatherapy, especially since it was now named in SM134. The animation was identical. This is ridiculous. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:35, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
:I think we should wait for the captions for SM133, if they reveal Aromatherapy then it can be changed to SM117--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 10:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
::Words can't describe how much I hate that "let's wait for captions to confirm it" rather than using our own eyes and head. We used to do that all the time before SM. This is exactly the same as with Bolt's Electro Ball a few episodes back where Force Fire didn't consider it confirmed, despite Electro Ball and Zap Cannon having several key differences that make them look different. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
:::Even if it was Aromatherapy at the time, it was still first said (revealed) in SM134, not SM117. And even then, healing other Pokémon or cleansing other Pokémon is something that Shaymin can naturally do, according to its dex entries.
:::And just so you know, we didn't just start getting strict on moves during the SM series, we've always been strict on moves since way back when, it's just being enforced harder this series because of the amount of time people keep guessing moves. You would rather us to possibly be wrong (or have possibly false information), than to wait for confirmation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:52, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
::::Okay, with the latter point, I admit I may have not just noticed that, but for the former, I'm also getting tired that you brush off some things as a Pokémon's natural ability instead of a move, like this case of Aromatherapy or the earlier case with Blacephalon's Mind Blown. But SM117 is coming out in the US soon enough, so I have patience to wait for it and see what the subtitles have to say of the matter. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:51, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
:::::Even if the Dub cc says that it's Aromatherapy, the move wasn't explicitly stated until SM134, making that episode the '''reveal''' episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:58, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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