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::Oh, btw, could I ask you something completely off-topic? It is about Mewtwo being inspired by Giygas, was it some kind of staff decision?  [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 14:51, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
::Oh, btw, could I ask you something completely off-topic? It is about Mewtwo being inspired by Giygas, was it some kind of staff decision?  [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 14:51, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
:::Just because something is not responded to on a talkpage, doesn't mean it isn't seen. Typically, things don't get responded to more because there are no strong opinions or support, rather than from 'neglect'.
:::Yes. The removal of Giygas from Mewtwo's origin section followed extensive staff discussion involving the topic. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 18:02, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
== Prime numbers ==
The fact that Sols, luns, and the UBs have prime numbers for their stats and learned levels I feel is notable, particularly because no others have this trait. {{unsigned|99apples}}
:Hi. Please remember to sign your talkpage comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. When a bunch of Pokemon share a trait, for example the boxart legends and the UBs share a trait, it's typically not notable. The only time shared traits is notable is for categories. This particularly trivia is mildly interesting, but not notable. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 09:31, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
::Excuse me, but I just happened to notice this. I feel like this is more a less a prime example of trivia I'd personally like to have/keep, it's like the second best trivia all across Bulbapedia: it's interesting, obviously intended, and easy to miss. I believe it's near Easter Egg level. (And I think the fact that it is shared between that set of Pokémon makes it ''more'' notable, not less.) I understand that I cannot really argue against the trivia policy that de facto is in place (and that you more or less quoted), but maybe we can all use some feelings, or touch, or common sense, whatever you wanna call it, in this case!? (FYI, I don't really know in which article(s) it'd ideally be located, but I'd like to point out that it is currently present at [[Ultra Beast]].) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:42, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
:::If the trivia is present on the page for Ultra Beasts, it can stay there. It's more relevant there than on the individual Pokemon pages, and there is no reason to have the same trivia on multiple pages. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 06:14, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
== Jacob9594 and plagiarism ==
I've had to revert {{u|Jacob9594}} now a couple times for plagiarizing the official site in Biology sections, including [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cosmog_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=2544150&oldid=2544135 here] and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Greninja_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2570599&oldid=2570598 here]. Since the issue has repeated, I'm not sure the user understands me when I've tried to address it on their {{DL|User talk:Jacob9594|Plagiarism|talk page}}, so since you're in charge of our Biology sections, could you perhaps have a stronger word with them about it? Thanks. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:44, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
:The last message seems to have gotten through. I'll address it if it occurs again. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 06:20, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
== Citations template ==
Hey, I've been thinking of implementing something similar that is on the Zelda wiki, citations to add credibility to the encyclopedia.
They would be something [[User:MannedTooth/Template:Cite_manual|like this]] and would look [[User:MannedTooth/Cite_manual_example|like this]] when used.
After being on the Zelda wiki for a while now, I think this truly adds credibility to a wiki. Also, it was nice to get additional information concerning a subject. Let me know what you think. :)
[[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 23:16, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
== Solrock and Luntaone edits ==
There is no debating Solrock and Lunatone are counterparts - it is even mentioned so in their respective articles. Including this relationship in the header follows the pattern of Miltank & Tauros (in fact, this is exactly where I got the formatting and phrasing from), and Passimian & Oranguru. Zangoose and Seviper mention their relationship to each other in their headers, as do Minun and Plusle. Why would this not be the place to mention Lunatone and Solrock as counterparts? -[[User:Uncleben85|Uncleben85]] ([[User talk:Uncleben85|talk]]) 18:50, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
: My mistake. A lot of counterpart stuff ends up in trivia. This's particular one can go in the introduction. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 23:14, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
:: No worries! I'm new to the Bulbapedia editing community, so I didn't know if I was overlooking something, or skipping over a process!-[[User:Uncleben85|Uncleben85]] ([[User talk:Uncleben85|talk]]) 23:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
== How do I report cross wiki vandalism? ==
Hello and good day,
Since you are a high level admin, I wish to know how to report a suspected cross-wiki vandal originating from this site. I suspect a previously banned banned/disgruntled user of Bulbapedia is spreading disinformation/slander regarding a certain Pokémon's origin. What type of documentation/proof should I provide? The reason from my inquiry is the vandal is using the same type of diction/vocabulary to push an agenda out of spite. I witnessed this person vandalise two wiki/sites already but since I am not an authority on Wikis I ask you since Bulbapedia is considered an authority regarding Pokémon. I apologize for the inconvenience I may have caused you, but the intellectual dishonesty of this vandal should not continue unabated.
[[User:Plastro|Plastro]] ([[User talk:Plastro|talk]]) 20:15, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
==Help==
I've Been Trying to become Autoconfirmed on the Archives for about 36 Hours, and I'm still Not. I need to Upload LGPE Sprites, But I can't. Thanks for the Help, and I hope you have a nice day!
[[User:BrendanC|Brendan C]] ([[User talk:BrendanC|talk]]) 23:09, 19 November 2018 (UTC)BrendanC
== Incineroar ==
1. Alright. 2. What's wrong with my grammar?
[[User:SeeYaLater|SeeYaLater ]] ([[User talk:SeeYaLater|talk]]) 13:07, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
: Repetition "It's based on a tiger. ''Also it's colorations are based on a tiger.''" "It's" means "it is", you were looking for "its" meaning "belonging to it". "More specifically, a black tiger" is a sentence fragment and should not stand alone. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 13:18, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
: Oh. Thanks! [[User:SeeYaLater|SeeYaLater ]] ([[User talk:SeeYaLater|talk]]) 19:05, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
== Cubone and Wurmple ==
How is the fact "When Cubone/Marowak holds a thick club, its physical attack doubles." more relevant to thick club's page? It's an interaction between a Pokemon species, an item, and a stat, and it doesn't work for other items or other species. And why is Wurmple's evolution more needed on the personality page than Wurmple's page? You can also say that most people looking at the personality page only care about shininess, so they'll be satisfied with a small blurb about Wurmple's evolution. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:36, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
:The point about stat-boosting items is about it NOT being trivial. It is not a bonus, interesting fact about the Pokemon. It's a fact about the item itself and what it does. People aren't going to be looking at Pokemon pages to see what items boost a Pokemon's stats, they're going to look either on the item's page or at the page on stat boosting items. Wurmple's kind of the same thing. Personality value is not something you can control without hacking. People looking Wurmple's page are most likely looking for how to evolve it, and that boils down to randomness unless you hack. So it's really only necessary to say that it's based on personality value and link to it; explaining the whole thing is simply just not needed. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 12:36, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
::You could say that thick clubs double the holder's physical attack if the holder is Cubone, or Cubone doubles its physical attack when it's holding a thick club. Why is the first one more correct than the second? And as long as information is about a Pokemon and doesn't clutter the page too much, why shouldn't it be on the Pokemon page? A lot of people would rather look at the friend area page for friend areas, but Pokemon pages still have friend areas for each Pokemon. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:17, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
:::That doesn’t change the fact that it is not trivia. I think it’s too important to be relegated to trivia unless there is no other place for it. And there is a place for it. On the item page. If I was going to put on a Pokémon page, I’d put it in the intro, but I would rather get opinions from other staff on that. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 03:14, 5 May 2019 (UTC) [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]]
::::Force Fire's proposed trivia policy says trivia should fit nowhere else in the article and be "widely considered interesting", and it said nothing about needing to be "unimportant". I think having "important" things in trivia sections won't hurt anyone, and removing those "important" things will only start more arguments like this one. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:57, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Force Fire also told you "no" regarding this trivia. I also just made the point about there being other places on the page to put it. However, I still stand by my opinion that it does not need to be on the page and that is not changing. Unless other members of staff also have strong opinions regarding it, I think this discussion has reached it's conclusion and is only going to lead to ciruclar discussions. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 00:09, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
:I'm not a staff member, but I do have "strong opinions". Would you be willing to listen to me and my arguments, and give me a fair opportunity to change your mind? Or are you not interested in (further) arguments, and rather have me go somewhere else? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:50, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
::You are, of course, more than welcome to leave you're opinions here. I will say, however, that I am very unlikely to change my mind about adding this to ''trivia'' specifically. I feel that our trivia sections are already cluttered with points that could potentially go elsewhere and that there are repetitive "standard" trivia points across multiple species pages. Adding species-specific items would just be another trivia of this type. I do not think it needs to be on the page at all, ''but'' if I were to put it there, trivia is not where it would be going. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 00:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
:::Thanks. Fair enough, I don't feel strongly about this being in Trivia specifically (though I guess I'd opt to put it right there myself, but I can see and accept you don't).
:::I'm here because I believe that info should be on Cubone's page (''somewhere''; because it's a part of the features that describe/define Cubone), and you removed it from there.
:::If it's okay with you, I suppose we'll see how the discussion at Unown's goes, and then do Cubone accordingly? After all, Cubone is a specific case, and I guess even in general, our opinions don't fundamentally clash (i.e. I guess, between you and me, if you re-added it wherever you see fits best, i.e. outside Trivia, that's a solution/consensus we could all live with). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:17, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
::::I'm tied up in a couple of projects at the moment. But I have added looking into a placement for species-specific items to my list of things to do. I will mention that it may take a while, so I will ask for patience at this time. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 14:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::That's nice, thanks. I hope you don't mind that I've invited others to potentially help you and/or speed up that process. I'll happily be patient for a limited amount of time, but I'd like you to do prioritize that properly and do this fairly soon, as long as the current state of affairs is something people are uncomfortable with. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I think you're under the impression I'm doing a little more than I am. Your last edit to Unown seems to imply I'm working on the Telekinesis issue as well, which I am not particularly taking action on. It might be in my periphery, but not something I think needs to be addressed right this moment. I would also like to point out the SnorlaxMonster already adding the point about Telekinesis back into Dugtrio's trivia sometime ago and that it has remained there with a lot of other points. Odds are, no one would care if the points affecting Sandygast, Palossand, and Mega Gengar were added to their pages, too. As it stands, I think the remaining issues (unique hold items, Unown's forms, and Wurmple's evolution) are perfectly fine the way they are now and need no further discussion in my opinion. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 05:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
:Nah, I'm aware of (subjective but reasonable) disagreement, so I'm not just gonna try to sneak it back onto those pages. I still care, though, so I'll think about what else to do, and then do that.
:Thanks for taking action about species-specific items this quickly. The remaining issues should be fine, yes. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:28, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
== this is legit the stupidest thing I have ever seen XD ==
I have set off SO many "vandal alerts" just editing my talk page, trying to make it a "test bed" of sorts, you know, making it so I can test my signature, my tables, ideas, and whatnot. wow, I never knew trying to be constructive would lead to this. :D (btw the reason I came here to say this is because it says to contact an admin to say if this was a "mistake", well id say so! [also, your the first senior admin on the list lol])
--<span style="color:teal">sup</span><span style="color:blue">eru</span><span style="color:red">xie</span> <span style="color:yellow">talk</span> <span style="color:pink">Have a Lovely day ¦Þ</span>  22:47, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
also, bigdocfan just informed me (when i saw 'just' i mean like, 2 weeks ago XD) that that's not a talk page function, or what its used for, so oops, that might be why. lol
<span style="color:teal">sup</span><span style="color:blue">eru</span><span style="color:red">xie</span> <span style="color:yellow">talk</span> <span style="color:pink">Have a Lovely day ¦Þ</span>  22:35, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
== Question ==
Do you know how to translate Japanese text to English correctly? [[User:Wc12271991|Wc12271991]] ([[User talk:Wc12271991|talk]]) 01:42, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
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