User talk:Ataro/Archive 4: Difference between revisions

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[[User:The Hidden Type|The Hidden Type]] ([[User talk:The Hidden Type|talk]]) 04:24, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
[[User:The Hidden Type|The Hidden Type]] ([[User talk:The Hidden Type|talk]]) 04:24, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
:The word conquer means "to overcome something", not necessarily dominate. The title translations aren't fully meant to be 100% accurate translations, just give a close enough meaning that fits with the previously established Kanto and Johto title translations. It's fine as is. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 12:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
:The word conquer means "to overcome something", not necessarily dominate. The title translations aren't fully meant to be 100% accurate translations, just give a close enough meaning that fits with the previously established Kanto and Johto title translations. It's fine as is. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 12:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
::The word "conquer" CAN mean "to overcome", but that's not its primary definition. And the problem is that it's not close enough to the actual Japanese title either. Not to mention everyone reading it will immediately assume the primary definition of "conquer", which gives a very wrong impression of the character. And the Japanese title doesn't mean "to overcome", making "conqueror" still wrong anyways.
::Every Pokédex Owner Title thus far tries to use the primary definition of the word, that fits the context of the character, that also matches the meaning of the Japanese title. Everyone except Sapphire. "Conqueror" for her doesn't use the primary definition of "conquer" based on your response, it doesn't fit the context of her character, and it's not close to the Japanese title. It's like calling Black as "Imaginer" because "to dream can mean to hallucinate, or to imagine things".
::And shouldn't a translation fit more with the source material than anything else? I don't see how "Conqueror" fits more with the previously established titles than say, "Pursuer", especially if "Conqueror" here is meant more like "someone who overcomes". And shouldn't a site like this strive to keep the most accurate information as possible?[[User:The Hidden Type|The Hidden Type]] ([[User talk:The Hidden Type|talk]]) 14:01, 17 July 2019 (UTC)