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I'd think Rayquaza gets the strongest Waterfall, because of the 150 Attack (higher than 125, for sure), but that's just me. :P [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">Tina</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">The</span>]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#E75480;">Kirlia</span>]] ♥ | I'd think Rayquaza gets the strongest Waterfall, because of the 150 Attack (higher than 125, for sure), but that's just me. :P [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">Tina</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">The</span>]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#E75480;">Kirlia</span>]] ♥ 18:07, 28 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
...Waterfall is different from the other moves in that this one '''doesn't flinch'''... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 01:32, 7 May 2008 (UTC) | ...Waterfall is different from the other moves in that this one '''doesn't flinch'''... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 01:32, 7 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
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: Waterfall exists in both generations, so it doesn't matter if a Pokémon has Waterfall in Gen II and you want to trade it back to Gen I. The same is true of Bite, even though Bite became Dark type in Gen II. [[User:Yenreb|Yenreb]] 19:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC) | : Waterfall exists in both generations, so it doesn't matter if a Pokémon has Waterfall in Gen II and you want to trade it back to Gen I. The same is true of Bite, even though Bite became Dark type in Gen II. [[User:Yenreb|Yenreb]] 19:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Waterfall in HGSS == | |||
You do not need it to go back down a waterfall. {{unsigned|Atomic Boom22}} | |||
Agreed. --[[User:Veggieman|veggieman]] [[User talk:Veggieman|(leave a message after the click?)]] 00:34, 7 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Mewtwo? == | == Mewtwo? == | ||
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:Mewtwo's article is correct, according to various other sources. — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 20:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC) | :Mewtwo's article is correct, according to various other sources. — <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] — 20:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
== | == Move appearance in other generations section == | ||
I think we should remove the bad image tag from that section. Sure, the Generation I animation is blurry, but so are a lot of others – yet this is the first time I have seen the tag being used for this purpose. Since no one else saw an issue with the other move pages afflicted by blurry Generation I animations, why this? | |||
I'll remove it if others agree, or otherwise add that tag to *all* other Generation I move pages with blurry images. Thoughts? <span class="sc">'''[[User:Haxorus|<span style="color:#968428;">Hax</span>]][[User talk:Haxorus|<span style="color:#4C4646;">or</span>]][[Special:MyContributions/Haxorus|<span style="color:#800517;">us</span>]]</span>''' 13:41, 3 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I agree with you on this. The image looks fine to me.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 13:54, 3 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Trivia worthy? == | |||
I was thinking of putting something about how a few descriptions say something about Waterfall being fast, but it doesn't have an increased priority. Would that be Trivia worthy? [[User:Zarthga|Zarthga]] ([[User talk:Zarthga|talk]]) 08:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
== those moves aren't variations == | |||
With the exception of dark pulse none of those moves that are listed as variations are actually variations. dark pulse's secondary effect has a 20% chance while scald, lava plume etc have a 30% chance.[[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 20:23, 6 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Doesn't Alomomola get Waterfall too? == | |||
I was going over a list of which Water Pokemon didn't learn Waterfall, and as I went down the 'Dex comparing Pokemon, I noticed that Alomomola wasn't on the page for Waterfall. But I'm pretty sure it can learn the move. Just wanna check with someone else to verify before just adding it in. {{unsigned|Coronation}} | |||
:Looks like there was an oversight. Added Alomomola. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 01:17, 11 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Special in Generation III == | |||
Playing generation three, I noticed that an opponent using [[Light Screen]] (Doubles *Special Defence*) appeared to half the damage by waterfall. I have also noticed that my Gyarados which has a much higher Attack than Special Attack seems to do more damage with a similarly powered move to waterfall while he gets [[STAB]] from waterfall, yet waterfall is doing less damage in most cases. I have added this to the main page accordingly. [[User:Pokepro97|Pokepro97]] ([[User talk:Pokepro97|talk]]) 15:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC). | |||
:Waterfall was special in Gen 3 and prior, as were all Water-type moves, since whether a move was physical or special was determined by type until Gen 4. Which moves were changed are already listed [[List of modified moves#Generation III to Generation IV 4|here]]. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::The only move which is notable on this matter is {{m|Bite}}, being physical type in G1, special type in G2 and G3, and reclassified as physical move in G4. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 16:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::Okay, the fact I was unaware of this after a lot of time on this wiki shows it isn't very clearly mentioned, I'm sure its not under the article on Type, which it should be. Correct me if I'm wrong, [[User:Pokepro97|Pokepro97]] ([[User talk:Pokepro97|talk]]) 01:29, 15 April 2014 (UTC). Edit: Nevermind, it appears to be there. Sorry for that confusion, [[User:Pokepro97|Pokepro97]] ([[User talk:Pokepro97|talk]]) 01:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC). | |||
::::From the [[Type#Type-affected game mechanics|Type]] page: ''All games before Generation IV also made a distinction between physical and special moves based on their type; as of Generation IV, this is dependent on the move itself.'' --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 02:59, 15 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Help == | |||
Does anyone know how to add a third image to a move infobox? I uploaded an image for overworld Waterfall in Generation VI but I don't know how to add a third image to the infobox. [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|<font face="Kristen ITC" size="2" color="#FFA500">the great</font>]] [[User:Mikoro|<font face="Wide Latin" size="2" color="#DAA520">MIKORO</font>]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|talk to me]]) 15:27, 4 March 2016 (UTC) | |||