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With the exception of dark pulse none of those moves that are listed as variations are actually variations. dark pulse's secondary effect has a 20% chance while scald, lava plume etc have a 30% chance.[[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 20:23, 6 June 2013 (UTC) | With the exception of dark pulse none of those moves that are listed as variations are actually variations. dark pulse's secondary effect has a 20% chance while scald, lava plume etc have a 30% chance.[[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 20:23, 6 June 2013 (UTC) | ||
== Doesn't Alomomola get Waterfall too? == | |||
I was going over a list of which Water Pokemon didn't learn Waterfall, and as I went down the 'Dex comparing Pokemon, I noticed that Alomomola wasn't on the page for Waterfall. But I'm pretty sure it can learn the move. Just wanna check with someone else to verify before just adding it in. {{unsigned|Coronation}} | |||
:Looks like there was an oversight. Added Alomomola. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 01:17, 11 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Special in Generation III == | |||
Playing generation three, I noticed that an opponent using [[Light Screen]] (Doubles *Special Defence*) appeared to half the damage by waterfall. I have also noticed that my Gyarados which has a much higher Attack than Special Attack seems to do more damage with a similarly powered move to waterfall while he gets [[STAB]] from waterfall, yet waterfall is doing less damage in most cases. I have added this to the main page accordingly. [[User:Pokepro97|Pokepro97]] ([[User talk:Pokepro97|talk]]) 15:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC). | |||
:Waterfall was special in Gen 3 and prior, as were all Water-type moves, since whether a move was physical or special was determined by type until Gen 4. Which moves were changed are already listed [[List of modified moves#Generation III to Generation IV 4|here]]. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
::The only move which is notable on this matter is {{m|Bite}}, being physical type in G1, special type in G2 and G3, and reclassified as physical move in G4. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 16:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::Okay, the fact I was unaware of this after a lot of time on this wiki shows it isn't very clearly mentioned, I'm sure its not under the article on Type, which it should be. Correct me if I'm wrong, [[User:Pokepro97|Pokepro97]] ([[User talk:Pokepro97|talk]]) 01:29, 15 April 2014 (UTC). Edit: Nevermind, it appears to be there. Sorry for that confusion, [[User:Pokepro97|Pokepro97]] ([[User talk:Pokepro97|talk]]) 01:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC). | |||
::::From the [[Type#Type-affected game mechanics|Type]] page: ''All games before Generation IV also made a distinction between physical and special moves based on their type; as of Generation IV, this is dependent on the move itself.'' --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 02:59, 15 April 2014 (UTC) | |||