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If we don't mention HSOWA, we miss chronicling one of the more amusing parts of the fandom! Things like hot skitty on wailord action are part of the pokemon-related humor that makes a fandom thrive and are too funny not to chronicle in an encyclopedic form!

(Besides, Celebishipping is on here, and I'm sure there are other ships listed equally outrageous)

(Some things are just that funny, and something should be mentioned of the whole HSOWA phenomenon.)

(Not that I have time or knowledge needed to start the article)

-Birdboy2000, MAR 27 2005, 5:10 EST.

Here is the article:
Some random people created something that went like "Hot Skitty on Wailord Action". This became an annoying fad for a week or two and then made a brief reappearance every few weeks, like all boring and non-notable internet fads.
Jshadias 22:16, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Evkl wanted it removed. Case closed. We're supposed to be an encyclopedia. The pokedex should deal with facts. Not BS.LedianX 00:26, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It is a fact that the fad existed - it came, and it went. Now, whether it deserves a mention, another story. - 振霖T 00:37, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Just because it existed doesn't mean it should be in the Pokédex entries which are for: Moves, Pokedex entries, origins of the names and basic information. Not fads. Evkl already said that it shouldn't be there. Case closed.LedianX 01:22, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Moves, pokedex, origin, and basic information can be found quite easily in many places. Shouldn't there be something more? Birdboy2000 03:02, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I agree, this is supposed to be a pokémon related encyclopedia, not info about craziness on the internet. But I will revert myself, since it has its own article. TheBlazikenMaster 18:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I think it at least deserves a mention in the trivia section. TTEchidna 18:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Moved to trivia, it's inappropriate for the biology anyway. TheBlazikenMaster 19:38, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Come on,why the people can't forget about the "HSOWA" thing? 15:00 15 September 2007

It could mention though that it is interesting that it is, as the biggest of all Pokemon, able to breed with the smallest (Diglett)? Just a thought.Gastly's mama 17:13, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Name origin

The derivation from 'wail' meaning to bellow has been included but there is no reference in flavour text for this Pokémon's entries. Could it have been this characteristic was deprecated before the version was finalised but the name was never changed? - unsigned comment from Ainohuyuah (talkcontribs)

Edit Request

The minorest of all minor edits. in the anime pokedex entry can you put a comma in between prey and it. Please and thank you. Littlmiget123 00:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

origin?

Wailord? Torpedo?

You have got to be kidding me. - unsigned comment from Mpcamel1729 (talkcontribs)

We're not. Torpedoes can be shaped like that, and seeing as Wailord is aquatic, it's as good an origin as any. Heck, if any of the origins were to be questioned I'd think someone would question blimp (as that has one less similarity—setting—going for it). --AndyPKMN (talk) 23:42, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Redirect needed

I typed in its Japanese name, doesn't redirect to Wailord. Somebody create a redirect? Thanks. --☆YoshisWorld☆ 13:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for bringing it to attention. --Pokemaster97 13:29, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Guys

Guys According to the height and weight given for Wailords, they are less dense than air. That should be on the trivia. - unsigned comment from Varkarrus (talkcontribs)

I added it, and I don't know why they removed it. ★☆Togetic45☆★ 13:10, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

You should know, because I wrote an edit summary about it. You can't calculate its density from just height and mass. You need to know Wailord's volume.--Den Zen 13:19, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
I think it's safe to compare him to a cylinder of sorts. Let's call it a 48' - 20' cyinder, and work on that. ★☆Togetic45☆★ 12:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
No. It's original research. Stop adding it. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm not adding it. I was just saying Jwittz is onto something, and he has a good point. ★☆Togetic45☆★ 08:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Honestly calculating Wailord's volume should be easy with all the 3D models available, but then people would likely argue model inconsistency rather than just accepting it as fact Bioness (talk) 14:58, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm not going to post them all but google "Wailord density" and you'll get at least 4 links which accurately support Wailord being less dense than air Bioness (talk) 11:37, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Accurately? How it can be accurate when you know only weight and height? Without volume (which we don't know), none of them will be correct. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 11:39, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Wailord: Height or Length?

The Pokedex states that Wailord is a little over 47.5 feet in height. But that said, how do we know this is actually its height, and not its length? I mean take Steelix and Onix for example. They are 30'02" and 28'10" each, respectively. Yet, especially if one looks at the anime, they are nowhere near that in height. It is basically undisputed that the two are measured off of length, and not actual height. To name a few other examples: Mega Rayquaza is 35'05"; Gyarados is 21'04"; and Dragonair is 13'01".

Now I know what you are thinking: I only mentioned snakes, so this is an invalid argument.

Have a look at this:

 

Judging off of this, Ho-oh and Lugia are both about the same height. But if one looks at the facts, there is an interesting thing to note. Lugia is 17'01", compared to Ho-Oh whom is at 12'06". That's a difference of almost five feet. From what I could see, only two places could make up the difference: the length of Lugia's tail, and Lugia having a bit of a longer wingspan. Unlike Ho-Oh, Lugia has it's wings curved and slightly folded. As such, it is more likely that Lugia's wingspan is the difference. But I also thing the tail has an influence here as well.

According to this, Lugia seems to have a wingspan not too much longer then Ho-Oh's.

 

As such, the tail is what most likely makes the difference.

So, how do we know for sure that Wailord is not a height of 47 feet, but rather a length?

I personally find Wailord being 47 feet in length and about...I don't know, maybe 25 or so feet in height a bit more realistic. Just my two cents.

--Pikachu1770 (*insert clever joke about Talk Page here*) 20:21, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

If you turn Wailord on its head, it becomes its height. I think the Pokédex chooses the maximum dimension possible, whether that is height, length (or breadth) - it is pretty obvious that the entries for the snake-like Pokémon (Ekans, Seviper, Onix, etc) are taken from an extended length dimension. I don't know why the Pokédex still classifies it all as height, but it does, irrespective of whether the measuring tape takes a different dimension or not. And to bring it to relevance, yes, the 47 ft is most likely of Wailord's length. But how is that going to change anything on the page? Xolotl (talk) 20:35, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
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