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=="Vitamin" accuracy==
You call Zinc, Calcium, Iron VITAMINS? They are elements, metals, not any "vitamins". Well, Pokémon Fans don't have to be perfect in chemistry but calling them vitamins means COMPLETELY NO KNOWLEDGE! --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:Sheesh, calm down Maxim. [[User:Carnivine|Carnivine]]

:"Vitamin: Any of a group of organic substances essential in small quantities to normal metabolism, found in minute amounts in natural foodstuffs or sometimes produced synthetically: deficiencies of vitamins produce specific disorders.  Examples include Retinol (Vitamin A) • B vitamins: Thiamine (B1) • Riboflavin (B2)• Niacin (B3)• Pantothenic acid (B5)• Pyridoxine (B6)• Biotin (B7)• Folic acid (B9) • Cyanocobalamin (B12) • Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) • Ergocalciferol and Cholecalciferol (Vitamin D) • Tocopherol (Vitamin E) • Naphthoquinone (Vitamin K) • '''Calcium''' • Choline • Chlorine • Chromium • Cobalt • Copper • Fluorine • Iodine • '''Iron''' • Magnesium • Manganese • Molybdenum • Phosphorus • Potassium • Selenium • Sodium • Sulfur • '''Zinc''' •"

:Don't flame people, especially when they know what they're talking about.  Many vital minerals required for the human body ARE considered vitamins. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 17:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:Oh, and for the record, if you're reading this - I really don't like the tone you've been taking with people lately - both in the forums and on the pedia.  Going around yelling at people in a constant rage is not acceptable behavior. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 17:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::Nooooo, minerals are microelements and macroelements, not vitamins. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Reguardless, they are referred to as '''vitamins''' throughout the games. So there. ^_^  --Paperfairy  [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Paperfairy ☆] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paperfairy ・] 18:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Paperfairy is right. So is Zeta. Maxim, you are really too angry at other people. So please stop yelling at everyone who doesn't think the exact same way you do. [[User:Carnivine|Carnivine]]

:::::Carnivine, you're annoying, too. Because you're still questioning me. That's not your problem Carnivine. I know I'm not perfect and you DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME THIS! The thing YOU do is equal to minimodding on forums! And it's considered as WRONG! --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::::::All I'm asking is for you to just relax and stop yelling at everyone, including me. [[User:Carnivine|Carnivine]]

:This discussion is over. Regardless of what they are in the real world, they are '''Vitamins''' in Pokémon. Any efforts to change the page otherwise by '''anyone''' will be dealt with harshly. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 03:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Rare candy = revive? ==

Is it worth noting that when a fainted pokemon is given a rare candy, it gains actual HP by the amount max HP goes up, meaning a rare candy can serve as an emergency revive in a desperate situation? --[[User:Kendai|Kendai]] 10:52, September 9, 2007
:Well, so would an HP up, sometimes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 05:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, this is the type of thing that can easily change between generations since it's not intentional, but i think i tried HP up in gen 3 to see if it worked, and it didn't i'll probably need to check again though. --[[User:Kendai|Kendai]] 8:17 September 12 2007
:nope, HP up doesn't work for some reason. i also tried evolution stones, no actual HP gain, just raised max HP. though this is spread among enerations, i recently tried the HP up in pearl, and a while back i was trying stones in emerald. --[[User:Kendai|Kendai]] 18:19 September 15, 2007
I think i got off track though, i was mainly asking if the fact is noteworthy. Does anyone think it's worth adding? --[[User:Kendai|Kendai]] 00:00 September 19, 2007

== Hp up = what? ==

What happens when you are using Hp Up? I have tryed it several times and haven't seen any change. [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 13:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

It Makes HP Go UP [[User:Cal05000|Cal05000]] 19:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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:It won't work if your Pokémon's stats are exceeding a certain amount, if they have really high HP already, etc. Hard to explain. <span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:Blue; color:#78C850"> er1hp </span>]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:#FFFFFF; color:Green"> streak </span>]]</span> 01:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

== Rare Candy, based on Rock Candy? ==

Whilst playing Earthbound the other day I was wondering whether it would be worth mentioning that the item Rare Candy might be based on the item Rock Candy from that game. 

The Rock Candy was used quite similarly to increase hp/pp stats after when leveling up. 

I thought there might be a connection, after all Creatures Inc. who makes the Pokemon games was previously Ape Inc, responsible for Earthbound.[[User:Chary|Chary]] 20:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

:Rock Candy is actually a real sweet, you get it a lot down where I live, but it's more commonly called just "Rock" down here. [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854">~~<b>Takoto</b></span>]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|<span style="color:#F4C2C2">サソデイ]]</span> 22:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, rock candy is real, but we're talking about the item from Earthbound. Rare Candy is probably not based on real rock candy, since Rare Candy looks like a typical hard candy and rock candy is a bunch of sugar crystals on a stick.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Rare candy with box trick ==

Can the stat flaws caused by rare candies be remedied with the [[box trick]]? {{unsigned|Sebb}}

You would probably be better off asking this question in the forums.--[[User:Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Boy'''</span>]][[User talk:Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''wonder'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''01'''</span>]] 17:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


== Evolving Pokémon with Rare candy ==

Currently trying to determine, can a rare candy be used to evolve a Pokémon if the Rare Candy puts it on its proper evolution level? [[User:Wojjan|Wojjan]] 16:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

:Meaning if you give a level 35 {{p|Charmeleon}} a Rare Candy, would it evolve?  Yes.  Unless you cancelled the evolution.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 17:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks for checking it out, I think we could add this to the description of the Rare Candy [[User:Wojjan|Wojjan]] 11:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:::But... it's what normally happens. It raises it a level. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Yet Day-Care also levels Pokémon, yet they don't evolve there. I do think that one line in the description couldn't hurt here. {{Unsigned|Wojjan}}
:::::Not needed. End of story. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 23:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

== Stat Lowering? ==

My friend had used 4 PP Max on his EV Trained Espeon's moves. Afterwards, for some reason, it's speed stat was less...
...Do PP Up's/Max's lower the stats of Pokemon? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']]<sup>[[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']]</sup> 03:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
:No. "Your Freind" was lying. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

==Locations?== 
can someone please update this page with locations some of these can be found/purchased or IF they can be purchased.  Specifically I would like to know IF PP Ups can be purchased anywhere and/or maybe a few examples of where they can be found... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 05:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Prizes in the lotto. Have fun. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 05:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

==Happiness==
Would Rare candy put up happiness by 4 rather than 2 (2 for the level up/ 2 for the vitamin) --[[User:Titan|TiT]][[User_Talk:Titan|An]] 10:58, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:Bump--[[User:Titan|TiT]][[User_Talk:Titan|An]] 09:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== On the case of Japan's version of the "Vitamins" and real-life relations ==

Should it be worth mentioning that the vitamins in the Japanese games' case (Taurine etc) are possibly chosen as they are commonly found in small bottled energy/health drinks in Japan (which themselves are very common and can be bought in supermarkets, department stores, convenience stores, etc)? [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 04:39, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

==EV-enhancing==
I'm just curious if Macho Brace and Pokérus are multipliers on the added 10 EV's if so this might be helpful information for those looking for a faster way to EV train. -[[User:Giantmongoos|Giantmongoos]] May 2010
:If I remember correctly, held items such as the Macho Brace only takes effect in battles. As a result, EVs earned from vitamins are unaffected by such. [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 07:23, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

==Drinks==
In HGSS, the man selling them at the Safari Zone Gate calls them "Drinks" or "Pokémon Drinks". This is consistent with points raised elsewhere on this talk page. However, the page for "Drink" is currently used by a page detailing items such as MooMoo Milk and Fresh Water. Should this page be merged into that page? Or should it be made into a new page, such as Drinks (medicinal), Medicinal Drinks, or something else? I think something needs to be done: as it stands, the page title is a misnomer, and I say that having referred to these as vitamins for the longest time. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 20:59, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:I noticed that too and considered something similar, but these items were previously vitamins, so they can stay here. If they were moved to Pokémon drinks, what would we call [[drink]]s? I say we redirect {{red link|Pokémon drinks}} here, then leave a note, and leave a note over at [[drink]]s
::Perhaps a disambunction page would be better. A page that links to [[Drink]] and [[Vitamins]] so people searching here wont have to type in Pokemon drinks. [[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 02:39, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
:::But they are still vitamins. The others are drinks, these are Pokémon drinks. There is no need for a disambiguation. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#444444">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:41, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
:::: That's okay then [[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 02:44, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

== In HGSS ==

Recently while training up another Pokémon, I found that my Lv. 100 Machamp was still able to take vitamins despite being Level 100, which I know in Platinum made it so Pokémon wouldn't take more vitamins regardless of EVs. Was this feature first implemented in HGSS, and if so, should it be mentioned somewhere? --[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 04:14, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:What do you mean? Pokémon can take vitamins at level 100. I tested this in Diamond and SoulSilver, and the both work the same way. Unfortunately, I don't have any level 100 Pokémon in Platinum to test this with, but I would be very surprised if it didn't work the same way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:30, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm, maybe I already had full EVs or something. I didn't think I did, but it's a possibility. Never mind, then. --[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 23:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== What level to should I give my Pokémon vitamins at? ==

Does it make a difference if one were to give a Pokémon vitamins at a lower level rather than a higher level? Whereas these items can increase a stat only till it hits a certain EV level, would it not be more profitable to give a Pokémon as many vitamins as possible while it has low EV in order to get maximum use therefrom and still have many levels for it to gain additional EV through battles? Also, it may be worth noting that (at least in generation one), starter Pokémon cannot take any vitamins other than PP up and rare candy. ([[User:Bug Maniac|Bug Maniac]] 21:18, 27 December 2010 (UTC))
:For these kind of tips, go to the forums. I do not believe that last statement is correct—most likely these Pokémon did not have any room left for stat experience. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:48, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

== Over 100 EVs ==

If I were to use a vitamin on a Pokemon with, say, 96 EVs, would the EVs be raised to 100 or 106?{{unsigned|Mhinkle64}}