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== Generation IV sprites ==

The Generation IV sprites have been doubled for some reason; However, it's beyond my current knowledge in regard to fixing this.
--[[User:Marohen|Marohen]]

You mean theres two Sprites of venusaurs and two shiny sprites of venusaur? Well to answer your question, See how one has a seed on its plant? well that's a female venusaur and the one W/O the seed is a male.... (It's called Gender Differences)..... --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 10:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:Is the shiny ''Crystal'' sprite supposed to have all those black dots?  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 19:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not. Somebody should fix that. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, where would those dots even come from? I'm just wondering. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 21:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:My guess is that someone just used a poor-quality ripping program, or something... the best solution is probably to re-rip and re-upload it. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 21:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question about trivia ==

I have a question about the trivia.  It says that Venusaur has bloodshot eyes in recent 3D games.  What does that mean?[[User:Pokemon champ|Pokemon champ]] 07:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:Its eyes goes red.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DAA520">'''F'''</span>]][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#DAA520">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">'''F'''</span>]][[Lugia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">ire</span>]] 07:47, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::They only turn red when they're hit by an attack. [[User:Sweekun|Sweekun]]

== Another Question about trivia ==

Is it significant that only Red, Blue, and LeafGreen refer to the flower on its back as "a plant" rather than "its flower", making it sound more like a <span class="explain" title="could also be mutualistic, or communalistic">parasite</span> than part of itself? [[User:PhoenixGraphix|<b style="color: #FFD700">P</b>]][[User_Talk:PhoenixGraphix|<b style="color: #AAA">G</b>]][[Special:Contributions/PhoenixGraphix|<b style="color: #B0E0E6">&trade;</b>]] <sub>([[Darkrai|<u style="color: #000;">bleh</u>]])</sub> 01:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:Not really. Plants and flowers are pretty much the same thing. It doesn't come across parasitic to me, which makes this an opinionated trivia.... i.e. a bad piece of trivia. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 03:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== Likely Connection? ==

I was on Archives when I noticed the Venusaur's FR/LG front sprites in many ways another version of its orginal artwork from Red & Blue. Who thinks that there could be a connection? [[User:Spritemaster|Spritemaster]] 00:05 26 August 2009 (UTC)

==Edit Request==
New Pokedex entry, Gold and silver EP248 'Venusaur, the Seed Pokemon. Venusaur uses its large petals to capture sunlight and transform it into energy. (Ash's Pokedex) Please and thank you. {{unsigned|Littlmiget123}}

==The 'In the anime' Picture==
I'm sorry to say, but I think that the picture in the anime section isn't very good. Venusaur is standing on its hind legs, something which most Venusaurs do not do.  I found a couple pictures on the archives that could fit. This image [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spenser%27s_Venusaur.png] seems to be the best picture, though, since it is .png. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 21:15, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm asking so I can be nice to the person who uploaded the image.  If I don't get a responce, I'm going to switch the photos with the one above. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

==HeartGold/SoulSilver Sprites==
We have the moving sprites for these images, is there a reason they are not being used?  If there is no reason, can someone please put them in place of the static ones. [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]]

== Trivia mascot ==

Hi I just wanted to ask that here first before I change the actual site, but someone could mention that as Venusaur's german name is Bisaflor and the german name of the LeafGreen game is Blattgrün, it is one of the pokemon who share their initial with the pokemon game of which they are the mascot. Just wanted to know if that is useful      {{u|Wuruhi}} 01:44:30 July 6 2010

== More Mascot Trivia ==
Corect me if I'm wrong but isn't Venasaur the only pokemon to mascot two version games (Green and LeafGreen)? [[User: EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 9:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:There's also Charizard, Lugia, and Ho-Oh so basically the mascots of any games which have remakes.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:#800080">13</span>]] 15:55, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

== Red and Green ==

Why are we using the Venusaur picture from [[Red and Green]]? Why not [[FireRed and LeafGreen]].  
([[User:Holonboy|Holonboy]] 17:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC))

== Sprite Trivia? ==

I noticed there's sprite trivia regarding the subtle changes in Venusaur's skin over the generations. I thought we were trying to avoid this? I didn't want to remove in case it was notable, but I'm pretty sure it's been removed before . . . [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal Talian]] 08:52, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
:Yeah, that doesn't need to be there. Removed. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 08:56, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

==Notability==

"Venusaur is the first fully evolved Pokémon in National Pokédex order." Is that really notable? [[Mothim (Pokémon)|Mothim]] [[User:Wildgoose|will]] [[User talk:Wildgoose|rule]] [[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|all!]]-Wildgoose (and [[Dustox (Pokémon)|Dustox]] will too!) 03:16, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
:Probably not. [[User:Spirit of your Computer|Spirit of your Computer]] 13:21, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

== Venusaur is a toad! ==

Just because of it's ears and basic evolution doesn't mean it's not a toad. Wartortle and Blastoise have ears too! Poliwag, Poliwhirl, and Poliwrath are all tadpoles and Mudkip, Marshtomp, and Swampert resemble basic axolotls.[[User:Bennell|Bennell]] 20:54, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
:Venusaur is a plant, not a toad. [[User:Spirit of your Computer|Spirit of your Computer]] 13:20, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

== Name ==

What is insulting about the name "Venusaur", that it cannot be traded on the GTS in English? I am legitly confused here--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 23:55, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

== Type effectiveness and Mega Venusaur ==

I separated the type effectiveness table for Venusaur and Mega Venusaur, for consistency with other pages (such as [[Gengar]] and [[Sceptile]]). Does anyone know how to insert a note about the new effectiveness of Fire- and Ice-type moves if the opponent has Mold Breaker and the likes? [[User:Loudo|Loudo]] ([[User talk:Loudo|talk]]) 17:51, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
:There's no "yes" switch for Thick Fat, only "maybe" (since everything else has Thick Fat as one of their Abilities, instead of being their only). The same for Mega {{p|Aggron}}'s Filter. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 18:09, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

==Base Stat Total==

Is it relevant that Venusaur, Meganium, and Torterra all have the lowest base stat total of all fully evolved starters? [[User:UmbralHero|UmbralHero]] ([[User talk:UmbralHero|talk]]) 02:36, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

== Ken Sugimori and Venusaur ==

According to this Japanese [https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%25E3%2583%2595%25E3%2582%25B7%25E3%2582%25AE%25E3%2583%2590%25E3%2583%258A&prev=search Page] : 

That although Ken Sugimori said he dislike Venusaur because it's complicated to draw, but in Pokemon XY strategy Book he mentioned that Venusaur is one of his favorite Pokemon.

Since i don't read/speak Japanese and that page is translated by Google, someone could confirm this please?

Here's the quote if you don't want to visit the page:

''Ken Sugimori who is in charge of Pokemon 's character design seems to dislike Fushigibana on the grounds that "it is hard to draw because of many lines". However, in XY 's strategy book , it seems to be somewhat different except for drawing it because he mentioned Fushigibana as a favorite Pokemon.''
:This is in no way contradictory as one can like a Pokémon for how it looks or what it is and at the same time not like to draw because it has too many lines. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 01:07, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
::But surely it deserves a spot in trivia? It's rather uncommon. [[User:PkmnTrainerV|The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here!]] ([[User talk:PkmnTrainerV|talk]]) 10:25, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
:::No it doesn't, as an artist myself it really isn't that trivia worthy, it's like saying someone likes peanut butter but dislikes peanuts themselves.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]10:32, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
::::I agree, they're too seperate things and even if they weren't, people can change their minds on things. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 12:43, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
::::: I think it's worthy to add in Ken Sugimori article, because the trivia section there mention that Venusaur's is his least favorite without explanation of why. [[User:ZeraX|ZeraX]] ([[User talk:ZeraX|talk]]) 15:41, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

== Isn't it worth mentioning that Venusaur is actually based off Biollante from the Godzilla franchise? ==
Or could be at least the contribution?
Please refer to this site https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biollante
Nevermind this opinion if mentioning the other fictions is strongly prohibited here. {{unsigned|Centuryoffame}}
:They don't seem at all similar, other than being plant-animal hybrids. Regardless, we typically avoid comparisons to non-public domain fiction when there are other clear origins, since Game Freak are very unlikely to base Pokémon on copyrighted works. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:00, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

== Venusaur's origins confirmed to be a frog ==

I found a Japanese [http://web.archive.org/web/20101230153442/http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/sp/index4.html interview] featuring Kiritani and Ken Sugimori, where the former asks Ken several questions relating to the franchise, including a discussion involving the design basis behind Venusaur.

"Kiritani:
What is Fushigibana, what is it?
Did you say "living thing" earlier?

Sugimori:
What is it ... (laugh).
Oh, it is a creature that is something like a frog.

Kiritani:
Is it a frog? Is the flower blooming in the frog?

Sugimori:
Yes. So before the evolution of Fushigibana,
The bulbs are stuck on creatures like frogs.

Kiritani:
The bulb will make the flowers bloom on the frog! What?

Sugimori:
Yes, the motif is a frog.

Kiritani
Frog ... Frog .... It is a frog.
This is a new discovery!"

And in another [https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/creator-profile-the-creators-of-pikachu/ interview], Ken Sugimori describes the origin and the basic "themes" of the original starters.
>Sugimori: “The experience of keeping small animals such as frogs, lizards, and baby turtles as pets gives the game a sense of reality and makes it easier to get into the game. I realized it might be difficult to make an emotional connection if the first partner Pokémon is a tough-looking character.”

Adding to that, there was recent LGPLGE footage showcasing the 'following pokemon' feature, starring the female protagonist and a Venusaur that was hopping like a toad, further supporting the fact that the Bulbasaur line is amphibian-like.
The 'saur' is a mistranslation of the Japanese name, as it does not reflect it's actual appearance, and that the alleged Dicynodonts origin is just fan speculation, now that we have actual confirmation from Ken Sugimori himself.
[[User:Stardustskittles|Pika Pika Pi~!!]] ([[User talk:Stardustskittles|talk]]) 17:04, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

== Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee bag sprites ==
It had come to my attention that the new bag sprites from Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee have not been uploaded anywhere on the website for use, other then the exceptions of Meltan and Melmetal. I have a sprite sheet of every Pokèmon in the game, but I'm unfamiliar with the image uploading process here on Bulbapedia, and I'd like some advice/instructions on how to do it. Username is Dot455 {{unsigned|Dot455}}
:Images must be uploaded at the [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives]. That said, I don't know how LGPE bag sprites are being dealt with, you should probably contact an admin. 
:I also didn't get what this has to do with Venusaur, so this may not be the best place for you to ask that. And remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~). [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 01:52, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
::Sorry about that, but I'm relatively unfamiliar with how the discussion page works. As for relevancy, I noticed that Venusaur lacked it's updated LGPE sprite, but there probably a more relevant place to discuss it. How exactly would I get in contact with an admin on the site? [[User:Dot455|Dot455]] ([[User talk:Dot455|talk]]) 02:06, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
:::It depends on where you've sourced the sprites from, whether you got them from the game yourself or if it's from a place that has uploaded them and allows others to use them. For example, the spritesheet on The Spriters Resource doesn't state whether the upload it wants it to be reuploaded other places so we wouldn't want to use that one. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 08:39, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

== Shiny Mega Home Sprite ==
The incorrect sprite is in the spot for the home's shiny mega sprite, instead just using the sprite for normal color mega. [[User:Crows|Crows]] ([[User talk:Crows|talk]]) 21:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
:Fixed. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|<font color="turquoise">Bfdifan2006!</font>]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Bfdifan2006|<font color="lime">Or is he actually</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|<font color="orange">Keyacom?</font>]]</sub> 22:11, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

== Signature move ==

In the biology section, we always say "X was its signature move in the past" or "in the past, X was its signature move". Is there a reason why we word it so vaguely? Why don't we specifiy which generations that it was its signature move? [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="orangered">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="darkviolet">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 08:12, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
:I'm guessing it's because if it's specified, then it would to include games where they do count as the signature move, which would get cluttered as the generations increase.[[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]] ([[User talk:Animaltamer7|talk]]) 10:21, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
::Please see [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Moves and Abilities#Signature guidelines]], so we don't need to split discussions for more than two pages. Thank you. --<span style="font-family:Corbel,sans-serif">'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|<span style="color:#4ed">Bfdi</span>]][[User talk:Bfdifan2006|<span style="color:#3f3">fan</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Bfdifan2006|<span style="color:#ea4">2006</span>]]'''''</span> 10:33, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
:::The discussion started here. Moving it somewhere else now would itself be splitting the discussion across multiple pages. And ForceFire seems to agree with me that it should be more specific to the generation. Making it specific to individual games/versions would be clunky and cluttersome. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="orangered">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="darkviolet">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 10:40, 11 April 2022 (UTC)