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:::::::::::Even the most recent Black and White version commercials in North America pronounce it (you-nuh-vuh)--[[User:Snivy4Ever|Snivy4Ever]] 04:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC) | :::::::::::Even the most recent Black and White version commercials in North America pronounce it (you-nuh-vuh)--[[User:Snivy4Ever|Snivy4Ever]] 04:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::::Hate to break it to you, but the anime is dubbed by TPCi, the company that gives the games their English names. Whether you want to believe it or not, that is the official pronunciation. Not to mention that's how it is pronounced in the Black and White promos. It's official, No Ifs Ands or Butts. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC) | ::::::::::::Hate to break it to you, but the anime is dubbed by TPCi, the company that gives the games their English names. Whether you want to believe it or not, that is the official pronunciation. Not to mention that's how it is pronounced in the Black and White promos. It's official, No Ifs Ands or Butts. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
==Locked== | |||
Why is the Unova article locked?? --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 05:25, 1 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Battle Frontier == | |||
Isn't it wrong to say that Unova is the only region without a battle frontier as a battle frontier always comes in the 3rd version of the game("Grey")? [[User:Icy|Icy]] 18:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
:No it isn't wrong to say that because the third version hasn't even been out or even confirmed. Just wait till we get an official confirmation, which'll take several years. :] --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 19:52, 4 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Orre would like to say hello :P [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 15:51, 22 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::It is the only main series region. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:26, 24 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:According to THIS website, Orre is also a main series region. So yeah, it's wrong. You should change it, unless you're cool with giving people false information.{{unsigned|Tokeupdude}} | |||
:: Orre isn't a Main series region, it is a spin-off region. As listed in the template below the article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#444444">'''F'''</span>]][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#858585">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''F'''</span>]][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#D8D8D8">ire</span>]] 06:14, 8 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Then how come when you look up any Pokemon's game locations Colosseum and XD are listed under the main games section and not side games? For example, I'm looking at Fearow's page right now and both Colosseum and XD are under main games Gen 3. [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 10:16, 17 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Nevermind! Orre is a side-region to the main series and the others are "spin-off" regions. I get it now ;) [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 15:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Location? == | |||
Does anyone know where Unova is located, like North of Hoenn, or East of Johto? [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] 02:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
:It's location from the other main series regions is not yet known. All we know for sure is that it is FAR away from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. My best guess would be that it is both east and west of the other regions, just like how the United States (or NYC in this case) is both east and west. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:28, 12 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Castelia population == | |||
Shouldn't it be unknown? Endless people walk up and down the streets in some areas. [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 15:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
:The population of Castelia is static people only. The endless people are excluded. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:26, 24 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Contest in the Trivia == | |||
Should This be add this in the trivia? | |||
:Only Region without a Pokémon Contest. | |||
Are we allowed to change the TRIVIA or is it still the Admin?[[User:Taposa|Taposa]] 14:03, 7 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:What do you mean? It isn't true. Kanto and Johto are anime only. Then there are the Orange Islands, Sevii Islands, Orre etc. None of those have contests. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 14:47, 7 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::I meant in Games.[[User:Taposa|Taposa]] 15:58, 7 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::As Solar Dragon said, Kanto and Johto don't have contests in the games.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 16:00, 7 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::Yes, and Orre and the Sevii Islands haven't been seen in the anime so they don't have contests in either canon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 16:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Only region outside of Japan? == | |||
:"Unova is the only main series region to be based on a real-world region outside of Japan." | |||
What? Are we forgetting about Orre, based on Phoenix, Arizona? --[[User:ChReNiC|ChReNiC]] 23:46, 12 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
:It's on side series now. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:48, 12 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
::The [[Battle Zone]] in Sinnoh is based on Russia, and it is referred to in game as a region (or sub-region, like the Sevii's). <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 23:50, 12 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
@Ataro I think one of the problems is that Colosseum and XD are still listed as main series games on the game template. If it is side series now the template needs to be changed accordingly. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 23:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::The bulk of the region is still based on Japan, ALL of UNOVA is not. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 06:41, 13 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Yes that's nice, but what about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Main_series the template?]. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 16:49, 13 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::First, don't be rude. Second, it was already stated that it hasn't been changed yet. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 21:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::I'm sorry if I came off as rude, but when was that stated that it hasn't been changed yet? There was no response to the initial question I brought up. At least not on this talkpage. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 22:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::About that template, if Colosseum and XD are moved or removed because they are side series, then the same will have to be done for Stadium, Box, Ranch, ect. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 22:32, 13 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Then those should be removed as well. They are not main series games and it's very misleading for them to be listed on the template. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 00:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
== another trivia? == | |||
unova does not have any pokemon blocking the player's progress. kanto has snorlax, johto has sudowoodo, hoenn has wailmer (blocking lilycove city preventing the player from surfing) and sinnoh has psyduck blocking the road due to headache. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I think that's worth adding. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 19:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Black and White 2 Coro Coro Leaks == | |||
Is it worth adding a section for Hiougi City yet? | |||
Also, the information about Unova being covered in ice is not confirmed; translations seem to suggest that it is the map covered in ice a la the clouds covering the initial Unova reveal, rather than the region itself being covered. [[User:Exterminieren|Exterminieren]] 20:25, 12 April 2012 (UTC)Exterminieren | |||
:Until further information is revealed, the admin team have decided to crackdown on speculation until more information is discovered. Thus the protection on a number of pages. Sort of related to the clouds, like you mentioned. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 06:11, 13 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== BW2 == | |||
May an administrator please add in the intro paragraph that it is also the setting of Black and White 2? [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 18:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Done. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 18:37, 13 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Image label == | |||
Could an admin add that the picture in the info box is for Black 2/white 2 to clear confusion up? If it's not necessary, fine.[[User:Bulbasect|Bulbasect]] 13:09, 14 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== The Ice layer == | |||
I don't know if this is the right place to discuss it, but are we certain the ice actually covers the land, and doesn't simply obscure our view of a secret? --[[User:NotSteve|<span style="color:navy;">'''Not'''</span>]][[User talk:NotSteve|<span style="color:maroon;">''S'''''teve''' 0_o</span>]] 20:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
:No, we are not certain. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 23:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
The Black 2 and White 2 website says that Unova really is frozen over due to some freak incident. [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] ([[User talk:Pikatwig|talk]]) 09:26, 20 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Remove ice covering speculation == | |||
May an administrator please remove the part about the ice actually covering the region in the Between Pokemon Black and White and Black and White 2 paragraph. That's speculation. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 16:17, 22 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Hello? Can an administrator please remove that speculation? It's really not supposed to be there. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 23:23, 9 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
::The ice is confirmed to be fake. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 01:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Where was that confirmation? Most sites have translated the official site as saying that the ice is from an accident in the rural areas....that makes it sound real. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 05:21, 21 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Trivia Issue == | |||
The trivia section states that "Unova is the only region without an actual or former Rock-type Gym." However, Johto did not have one either, though its neighbor, Kanto, did. I thought it'd be better to bring it up here rather than edit it out because there may be a reason for having that in the article that I am unaware of...or something like that. [[User:CrimsonCerberus|CrimsonCerberus]] 20:05, 15 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
:That's why it says "or former". Jasmine is stated in the Johto games to have been a rock specialist gym leader until her Onix evoled into a Steelix and she changed to Steel. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 21:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Non-icy B2W2 == | |||
Has any such map yet been released? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:31, 10 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Unova Nationality == | |||
Despite it being heavily implied that Unova is far away from the other regions (with the reset route system and being based on New York), something came to my attention stating otherwise. In BW2 Crasher Wake tells the player that "Everyone says I'm a wrestler from abroad, but the truth is... I was born and raised in the Sinnoh region! It's what they call my gimmick!" It seems that Unova is undeniably in the same country, and likely way way closer to the other regions than Japan is to America. Should there be something added to the page to reflect it's nationality? --[[User:MicManGuy|MicManGuy]] ([[User talk:MicManGuy|talk]]) 11:12, 25 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I'm parsing that as "Everyone (in Sinnoh), says I'm a wrestler from abroad", not "Everyone (here) says I'm a wrestler from abroad. It really doesn't say much of anything about say anything about the closeness of Unova to other places. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 14:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Yeah but he's not in Sinnoh. He's in Unova when he says that. If Sinnoh is really "abroad" relative to Unova, it wouldn't just be a gimmick, it'd actually be true. --[[User:MicManGuy|MicManGuy]] ([[User talk:MicManGuy|talk]]) 16:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
== False trivia == | |||
Unova is not the only region without a Rock type gym, Johto didn't have one either. [[User:Shanicpower|Shanicpower]] ([[User talk:Shanicpower|talk]]) 09:58, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
:It says "an actual or former". Jasmine was a former Rock-type trainer before she became a Steel-type trainer. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 10:02, 12 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Unova Map of Sequels instead of the First Games? == | |||
I apologize if this has already been discussed - I couldn't find it in this talk section. But I noticed that the main image for the page uses the region map from the original Black and White games, with the Black/White 2 map being slightly lower down in the article. Shouldn't it be the other way around, seeing as the BW2 map has more locations and is more 'current' within the Pokémon world? --[[User:Evacino|<span style="color:#A70000">'''evacino'''</span>]][[User talk:Evacino|<span style="color:#0000A7">''' (talk)'''</span>]] 01:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
:While this should be the case, we do not have a proper image of Unova showing all the new locations from BW2. The only images of BW2 Unova have the ice covering the eastern portion of the map or labels all over the place. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 03:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
::I was talking about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Unova_B2W2_alt.png this BW2 image] as compared to the [http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/42/Unova_alt.png current one]. Is that BW2 one a problem as it's at a slight angle or the like? --[[User:Evacino|<span style="color:#A70000">'''evacino'''</span>]][[User talk:Evacino|<span style="color:#0000A7">''' (talk)'''</span>]] 04:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Like I said, it's not a proper image. It's angled, it's shaded oddly, and it doesn't show the whole region. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 04:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::Ah, that makes perfect sense then. It's a shame Game Freak have never released the full, non-icy version of the image. It's odd as well since what can be seen of the BW2 map is basically the first Unova map but with a few added changes. The closest image I can find to what it might of looked like is [http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/134/8/f/unova_region_full_map_by_jcferggy-d7ibhxw.jpg this], which is a Photoshop of both maps together so it looks like the ice is removed. It's actually really well done considering! --[[User:Evacino|<span style="color:#A70000">'''evacino'''</span>]][[User talk:Evacino|<span style="color:#0000A7">''' (talk)'''</span>]] 04:37, 23 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Besuto Uisshu == | |||
Do you not think that it is a coincidence that, with Japanese pronunciation and spelling, "Wishes" in "[[Best Wishes series|Best Wishes]]" is pronounced and spelled almost the same as "Isshu" in "[[Unova|Isshu-chihō]]"? [[User:Torr3|Torr3]] ([[User talk:Torr3|talk]]) 14:22, 10 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
== B2W2 map == | |||
There is a full B2W2 map at http://im.ziffdavisinternational.com/ign_de/screenshot/default/einall-s2w2_wn21.jpg | |||
It should replace File:Unova_B2W2_alt.png [[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 15:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for replacing the angled one with the one on there and PokéWiki. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 10:30, 13 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
== B2W2 Exclusive Locations == | |||
I think we really should explicitly emphasize the fact that some locations in Unova are exclusive to B2W2. I know it is already said/implied here and there, but the information is diffuse and, if you don't know it already, hard to come by. | |||
When looking at a route's or a city's page, if it is exclusive to B2W2, you end up having to deduce it from the lack of information about BW, instead of having a sentence saying it right away. | |||
We should do like it's done, for example, in Emerald exclusive locations, where there is a sentence in the first paragraph saying the location only appears in Pokémon Emerald. [[User:Suic12-|Suic12-]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 15:32, 11 April 2019 (UTC) | |||