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==Evolve Eevee?==

The article writes that you can get an Umbreon in FR/LG by evolving an Eevee.  Where does one get the moon shard?  How can one evolve an Eevee in FR/LG without it because I'm not sure there is one in the game.  [[User:Harvestdancer|Harvestdancer]] 21:44, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

:[[Moon Shard]]?  Only in [[Pokémon XD:  Gale of Darkness|XD:  Gale of Darkness]], I'm afraid.

:I'm afraid you can't get an Umbreon in [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FireRed/LeafGreen]] without trading it over to [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|Ruby/Sapphire]]/[[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]] and evolving it there.

:{{p|Espeon}} works pretty much the same way, only involving the opposite timeframes and the [[Sun Shard]] instead of the Moon Shard.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

::What would happen if you chose the Moon Shard, then waited until you could trade, had a Pokémon hold the Moon Shard, and traded it to FRLGE? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 21:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

:::The Moon Shard is a key item.  It can't be held.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

::Shouldn't the page say "trade" instead of "evolve" then for FR/LG? [[User:Harvestdancer|Harvestdancer]] 17:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Not really. You can get Eevee, even if you can't evolve it within FRLG. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 02:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I meant for Umbreon (and Espeon) shouldn't FR/LG say "trade"? [[User:Harvestdancer|Harvestdancer]] 03:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Like I said, you can get the Eevee just fine... You may have to trade to evolve it, but does it say that for a Pokémon like Rhyhorn or Graveler? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 03:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::Argh no!  Graveler, for example, it says can be acquired by evolving a geodude or catching a graveler, but Golem can only be acquired through trade.  It says so in the Golem article.
::::::According to the above discusison, the only way to get an Umbreon is through trade.  You can't evolve it.  You need to evolve it at night, which doesn't happen in FR/LG, or with a moon shard, which you can't get at all in FR/LG and can't trade over as a held item because it's a key item.  Therefore you cannot, when playing FR/LG, evolve an Eevee into an Umbreon.
::::::Since you can't evolve an Eevee into an Umbreon in FR/LG, but can get an Umbreon through trade, shouldn't the article say you can get it through trade '''instead''' of evolution? [[User:Harvestdancer|Harvestdancer]] 15:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::All of the trade-evo ones I checked say "evolve (prevo)". The method, of course, is stated in the evo box. The point is that you can get Espeon/Umbreon by evolving the Eevee you get in FRLG, no matter that you have to trade it to another game to get the job done. It's like {{p|Machamp}} or {{p|Scizor}}. You can get the Machoke and Scyther in FRLG, but they don't evolve unless they get traded to another game, then traded back. Sure, it's a tiny bit more complicated with Eevee, but it's still the same concept. The trivia section, of course, should have that you can't evolve it because of no day/night function in FRLG, but that's one of the games you can actually get an Eevee in. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 11:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::So do you just level up eevees with max happiness during the tides on emerald? If so, which would eveolve on high tide?--[[User:Ace|Ace]] 17:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

==Psychic mention?==
Is it worth mentioning specifically how it can learn psychic in the trivia section? A pure dark pokemon being able to learn psychic would seem fairly note-worthy. [[User:Prophaniti|Prophaniti]] 15:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:{{p|Honchkrow}} Is also a Dark type that can learn Psychic. To be honest, I don't really think it belongs in the Article. [[User:Mr.lol|Dean]]
::Sounds notable enough for me.Honchrow is not pure Dark[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:##800000;">Good Day;DCM</span>]]
::...I didn't know being a flying time allows Honchkrow to learn Psychic attacks...[[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't see any notability in it. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 14:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Darkrai, Sableye and it's rip-off Spiritomb, Honchkrow are the other dark types capable of learning Psychic. 5/23 dark types is a fair few. I'd not call it notable enough. [[User:Gywall|<span style="color:#FF8800">'''Gyw</span><span style="color:#FFAE00">all'''</span>]]<sup>([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])</sup> 14:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Added note: Damn you fiddler, I had to find this again! [[User:Gywall|<span style="color:#FF8800">'''Gyw</span><span style="color:#FFAE00">all'''</span>]]<sup>([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]])</sup> 14:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

==Sun/Moon Shard==
I just changed the Moon/Sun Shard links in the {{p|Espeon}}, {{p|Umbreon}} and [[List of Pokémon with branched evolutions]] pages so that they link to the appropriate sections of the [[List of key items in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]] page, rather than the [[Evolutionary stone]] page that doesn't mention them at all. Is there a way to make a search for [[Moon Shard]]/[[Sun Shard]] redirect to said page? It's rather useless having it redirect to the stone page (as it does now) when the page doesn't even say anything about them. It took me forever to find ANY mention of these shards in the wiki because of this. I was starting to think they were typos. --[[User:MASLEGOMAN|MASLEGOMAN]] 20:14, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:I've changed them. In future please add comments to the bottom of a page, rather than into the middle of a three year old conversation. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 21:04, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== wrong wikipedia entry ==

On the origin section, the wikipedia enty for moon rabbit led to {{wp|Moon Rabbit}}, not {{wp|Moon rabbit}} like its supposed to. i just fixed it. can someone tell me if i was supposed to fix it? [[User:Jaller95|Jaller95]] 16:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:If it didn't link to the proper Wikipedia article, then yes, you were supposed to change it :) --[[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 16:47, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Note Worthy? ==

Is it worth mentioning that Umbreon and Espeon are the only eeveelutions that share an ability?----[[User:XD00153|XD00153]] <small>''([[User talk:XD00153|<span style="color:purple">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 00:38, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

dude..fix your sig..please.... and maybe [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:54, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. I'm not that great at sigs.----[[User:XD00153|<span style="color:purple">XD00153</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:XD00153|<span style="color:gold">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 00:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Another question on noteworthiness, is it worth mentioning that the minimum level for Umbreon is 2, and that the best way to get a lvl 2 umbreon is to hatch an eevee egg, then work it's happiness over a few days by massages, haircuts, and long bicycle walks while watching tv? Also, if it is, you should mention that you should save progress before any attempt to evolve a lvl 2 umbreon to be sure the happiness level is high enough. (Crystufer I don't know bbcode. Sorry.) {{unsigned|Crystufer}}
:First of all, signing your posts is done by typing four tildes (~). It's that easy, and there's even a shortcut for it on the toolbar above the edit box, and on the character palette below it.
:Secondly, the minimum level trivia you suggested is NOT noteworthy. The same could be said for Espeon, Leafeon, Glaceon, and any other Pokémon which needs to level up to evolve. As for your info on how to evolve it at level 2, we aren't a strategy guide. Anyone who wants to know methods for increasing happiness can check the [[Happiness]] page, which is handily linked to from the evolution box. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 18:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny Umbreon Sprite ==

I've got a Shiny Umbreon in HeartGold and want to put the shiny version in the template, but how to do so?  [[User:YoshisWorld|YoshisWorld]] 22:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)YoshisWorld

== Umber ==
It states in the name origin section that it could come from ''umber'', but i {{tt|studied Umbreon's pictures|For about ten seconds, sue me}}, and it seemed closer to a very dark blue than a very dark brown. I'm removing this, because as likely as it seems, it's not really true. '''[[User:EvilKirikizan|<span style="color:#705848;">EvilKirikizan</span>]]''' '''[[User talk:EvilKirikizan|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">speaking!</span>]] 02:46, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

The umber thing came back. I have already removed it for the same reason you did.
[[User:Harrylane4|Harrylane4]] 03:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)Harrylane4

:A ten second analysis by one user isn't enough to throw away the most likely reason. Even if it looks slightly bluer, Umber is the most likely source of the name. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#00693E">Toon Ganondorf</span> ]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">c)</span>]]''' 22:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

== Anime ==

Is it worth mentioning that despite Umbreon being the first Dark-type Pokémon in National Dex order, in the anime, no Umbreon is ever seen using a Dark-type move? [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 19:52, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
:I don't see what it being the first one has anything to do with it, but I guess the second part is worth mentioning. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 19:59, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

== Incorrect statement in Special Abilities. ==

"Umbreon can spray a poisonous sweat whenever it gets agitated. Its golden bands glow, allowing it to use moves such as Flash.
As a Dark-type Pokémon, Umbreon can learn several moves with various disruptive effects, such as Taunt, Snatch or Thief."

Umbreon can not learn Thief in any generation. [[User:Vinven|Vinven]] ([[User talk:Vinven|talk]]) 06:43, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
:You are welcome to make the edit yourself. Be bold! [[User:Mathfreak231|<span class="explain" title="Mathfreak">MF</span>]][[User talk:Mathfreak231|23]][[Special:Contributions/Mathfreak231|1]] 00:34, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia on Synchronize ==

Is Umbreon the only Pokémon with the Ability of Synchronize that is not Psychic type (its type is Dark)? Is it notable or too small of a group to note/unnotable? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 04:48, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
:It's easily visible on the page for {{a|Synchronize}}, so it's not notable. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 04:53, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks Crystal, I'll be careful when I'm adding trivia that would be otherwise not notable. --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 05:01, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

== Inconclusive ==

About the Anime's lack of Umbreon using Dark Type Moves, Gary's Umbreon used Hidden Power, meaning that information can't be confirmed.--[[User:Benayla|Benayla]] ([[User talk:Benayla|talk]]) 08:59, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:{{m|Hidden Power}} inflicts damage using a type and power determined by the user's IVs. The power varies between 31 and 70 in Generation II, and varies between 30 and 70 in Generations III to V.
:As far as anime goes, anime does not necessarily equal game in terms of how things are applied.  Therefore, we don't see it as anything beyond a Normal-type move.  As such, the statement of not using Dark-type moves applies.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 14:11, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

== PokèPark 2 ==

Should the side-game locations box include the location in PokèPark 2? It has the PokèPark 1 location but not the second game. And in the side-game data section it shows both PokèPark game entries. {{unsigned|AngelicEspeon}}