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In my version of Y I have a tyranitar which seems to have the wrong ability as it has Unnerve as its main ability despite this page saying its hidden ability should be unnerve and its main sand stream (which mine doesn't have) Is this a change in Gen VI and if so does the page need editing? [[User:Cjmorgs|Cjmorgs]] ([[User talk:Cjmorgs|talk]]) 17:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | In my version of Y I have a tyranitar which seems to have the wrong ability as it has Unnerve as its main ability despite this page saying its hidden ability should be unnerve and its main sand stream (which mine doesn't have) Is this a change in Gen VI and if so does the page need editing? [[User:Cjmorgs|Cjmorgs]] ([[User talk:Cjmorgs|talk]]) 17:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
:How can you tell that Unnerve is its main Ability??--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 17:41, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
::You just caught one with its Hidden Ability. Pokémon in Horde Encounters and the Friend Safari have a chance of having their Hidden Abilities. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 17:44, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
a) It doesn't have sand stream and b) unnerve is the actual ability displayed on its summary [[User:Cjmorgs|Cjmorgs]] ([[User talk:Cjmorgs|talk]]) 19:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
:A Hidden Ability is just an ability that you need to get in a special way (for example Dream World/Hidden Grottos in Generation V and Friend Safari and Horde Encounters in Gen VI). They are not actually hidden on each particular Pokémon. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 19:25, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
I thought if a pokémon had its hidden ability it had two abilities. Am I wrong? [[User:Cjmorgs|Cjmorgs]] ([[User talk:Cjmorgs|talk]]) 19:29, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
:You don't seem to know how the [[Ability]] system works. A Pokémon with its Hidden Ability can never use its normal Ability/ies and vice versa.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 19:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
I apologise profusely! I haven't had any of the Gen V games so I skipped over the hidden abilities when they were first introduced. I thought the hidden ability was extra if obtained and the pokémon would have two. Sorry for any confusion guys :/ [[User:Cjmorgs|Cjmorgs]] ([[User talk:Cjmorgs|talk]]) 19:33, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Sp.Def Calculation == | |||
I thought I had figured out a awesome use for Assault Vest with Tyranitar, but it seems the guys over at smogon beat me to it. | |||
Anyways, I know a Tyanitar with fully invested Sp.Def and a Sp.Def increasing nature gives it a Sp.Def of 328. The vest gives Tyranitar 50% more Sp.Def which would be 492. Even without the vest, its ability to summon a sandstorm, and then sandstorm's effect of increasing the Sp.Def of Rock type Pokémon by 50% by itself. With a combination of both, right out of the starting gate Tyranitar gets 100% more Sp.Def | |||
The thing is, everywhere I look I see 738 as the magical number, but shouldn't it be 656? 328 + 100% (or 328 x 1.5) should = 656 the only way you can get 738 is if you take 328 x 1.5 which = 492, and then you timed 492 by 1.5 which would = 738. | |||
I'm not the best at math, but which is it? 656 or 738? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 08:20, 2 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Well, I'm a math major and it's 738 (328 × 1.5 × 1.5). It's very simple; AV multiplies it by 1.5 and then sandstorm multiplies it by 1.5. All stat boost combinations, such as Huge Power + Choice Band and Unburden + Agility, are calculated this way.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 08:57, 2 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
::In other words, Yamitora, both boosts don't give 50% of the original. The second boost gives 50% of the already-boosted stat. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:34, 2 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::Ok I see now, thank you for clearing that up. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:25, 2 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Seven Starting Moves == | |||
As far as I know, Pokemon can only learn 4 moves at a time. I don't own any of the games, so I cannot determine what ttar actually starts with. Anyone mind changing this? [[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] ([[User talk:Smurfton|talk]]) 21:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
:If a Pokémon has more than 4 starting moves, then you'll have to use a heart scale(or tiny mushroom in LG/FR) to learn that move. What it really means is that while the Pokémon CAN learn the move, it won't have the move without outside intervention on the trainers part. Does that help clear things up for you? ([[User:Arcalargo|Arcalargo]] ([[User talk:Arcalargo|talk]]) 12:56, 7 December 2014 (UTC)) | |||
::Yes.[[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] ([[User talk:Smurfton|talk]]) 17:19, 7 December 2014 (UTC) | |||