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Better than the current, which looks like an omelet? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 08:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC) | Better than the current, which looks like an omelet? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 08:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Blue-green and black/yellow? —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:15, 24 July 2009 (UTC) | :Blue-green and black/yellow? —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:15, 24 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Four Temperaments/Four Humors == | |||
I came across something that I think is worth noting on the page, but I can't back it up well enough to be sure of its veracity, so I thought it would be best to put it on the talk page, hopefully come across someone who knows more on the topic than I do and get confirmation before I added it. | |||
The four temperaments/humors - sanguine (blood), choleric (yellow bile), melancholic (black bile) and phlegmatic (phlegm) - are a pretty common quartet of personalities for characters, and I've recently learned that apparently they each have an association with a specific celestial body in Greek astrology. | |||
As it happens, the celestial bodies with which they're most strongly associated are Jupiter (sanguine), Mars (choleric), Saturn (melancholic) and the moon (phlegmatic) - the first three are the names of the commanders of Team Galactic, and I feel like adding that while Charon was originally named Pluto, the English localization did rename him to be ''a moon of Pluto'' instead of retaining the planet itself. | |||
Of course, part of what makes me unsure is the fact that Charon doesn't quite fit, although the fact that he was a later addition mitigates this somewhat. | |||
Another issue is that while they happen to share the ''names'' of these associated planets, their actual characterization doesn't seem ''at all'' based on the corresponding temperaments - I'm not finding any correlation to the personalities themselves, which is largely the point of the four temperament/humor "set" in the first place. | |||
But most importantly, I don't know enough about the four temperament trope in the first place to confirm this by my own knowledge - the sources I've found aren't entirely consistent (for reference I've seen one that purports ''these four specifically'', which was what made me start looking, but also another that gives ''multiple'' celestial bodies per temperament... but maintains the pairing of each of these four with a different temperament, which backs the first source up in one way but complicates things in another). | |||
In short, I think it's ''interesting'' but I could go either way on if it's worth noting - I'm fine if it's deemed unnotable because it's fairly tenuous, but I do think it gives more specific meaning to the choices of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn specifically rather than "random celestial bodies." | |||
But I think the main thing is that I can't confirm it myself and I'm not wholly convinced that it's ''true'': | |||
*''Are'' those planets widely grouped together, or is that just an invention of this list? | |||
*Did that grouping ''originate'' with the four humors, or does it have another origin and was assigned to them later? (To clarify why I'm asking this, the same source that's associating the four temperaments with ''these'' also ties them to ''the four elements,'' which obviously didn't originate with the four temperaments - was this already a quartet before it was applied to them? It would obviously be better to cite the actual origin of the grouping rather than saying "the four humors" if there is something predating that, but I can't find anything suggesting as much.) | |||
I'm fairly sure that the inclusion of this information would benefit the wiki, because I ''do'' think it explains the choice of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn over any of the other planets and gives a specific justification for their naming scheme. But that assumes it's actually true, and I'd rather wait for someone who knows better to say. Can anyone verify or deny this connection before it's added? | |||
Thanks. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 20:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC) | |||